Marriage tradition changes, Mitt should know this!
- Thread starter Jarod
- Start date
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
is that any reason to make it worse?.....
Dixie - In Memoriam
New member
Well no, it's actually NOT.
The fact that Mormons once practiced NON-traditional marriage, and then changed to conform to TRADITIONAL marriage, doesn't mean that traditional marriage changed.
wanderingbear
Radical liberal
Religous tadition should not be reflected in secular law.
Where are you getting that polygamy is non-traditional? It was the norm for thousands of years.
Dixie - In Memoriam
New member
LOL... they call it "polygamy" for a reason, moron!
They call it Polygamy because its different from Monogamy. I dont see your point.
"poly" meaning more than one. "mono" meaning one.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
actually, not within the most recent thousands of years.....that's sort of implied in the meaning of traditional.......
Dixie - In Memoriam
New member
Right, but you don't call "monogamous relationships" that, because they are traditional.
Polygamy is NOT traditional. We call it Polygamy because it distinguishes it from traditional.
You did this yourself, I didn't help you a bit.
I call monogamous relationships that when I am defenerating between them. I cally Polygamous relationships when I am defenerating between them.
Even if what you are saying were true, if it were your "tradition" it is no reason to try to force that "tradition" onto others, or to legally prevent them from establishing there own "tradition"!
Jewish people get married under a hupa, I dont see them trying to make it the law that you are not legally married if you dont get married under a hupa.
Dixie - In Memoriam
New member
Yes, but in normal parlance, when you argue for 'gay' marriage as opposed to 'traditional' marriage, you don't call it 'monogamous' marriage. It is presumed 'monogamous' because that is part of what defines traditional. On the other hand, 'polygamy' is used exclusively to differentiate between itself and 'traditional' or 'monogamous' relationships. In other words, it is called "polygamy" for a reason, it is not traditional, or part of traditional marriage. Even YOU prove this yourself! With no help from me at all, just your own words and terminology in everyday conversation.
Well see here's the thing, it's not just MY tradition. It is THE tradition. You want to change THE tradition, to include YOUR tradition, and I get that, really, I do! But yes, I can indeed legally prevent you from usurping THE tradition and making it YOUR tradition. I can legally prevent you from usurping ANY tradition that is rooted in the Constitution and is an inalienable right. I can even amend the Constitution to protect THE tradition, if I see fit. So don't tell me what I can and can't do.
What you and the rest of you Pro-Gay-Rights clowns need to understand, first and foremost, is that Americans are largely opposed to changing tradition. Much of that is rooted in their core religious beliefs, and the teaching of these religious beliefs for generations. It is ingrained into our values as a society in a way that you can not overcome with these vitriolic strong-arm goon tactics, like you are fighting civil rights in the 60s. It won't work on this! It has FAIL written all over it, because you underestimate the general public sentiment on this issue. The very people you need support from, are those you wish to attack, condemn, and criticize as bigots and homophobes, and you just don't seem to get that.
Do Jewish people allow same-sex marriage?
dixon76710
New member
The fundamentals, always between a man and a woman, have remained the same.
dixon76710
New member
Its biology, not religious tradition. Marriage is between a man and a woman for the same reason all the birds around here pair off into couples made up of a male and female to build heir nests each year. BIOLOGY. not religion. Thats why EVERY religion around the world dictates marriage between a man and a woman. Not because of religion but instead the biological requirements of procreation.
I want to change the law so that as many people as possable can choose there own traditions. I happen to be in a man-woman monogomyst marriage. It would not hurt me in any way what so ever if my neighbor were in a man-man or woman-woman marriage. I want my neighbor to have that freedom.
dixon76710
New member
Well, thats what you now say, but your post most always only speak of "gay marriage"
Dixie - In Memoriam
New member
See? You can't even use the word in the sentence without it seeming odd and misplaced. You happen to be in a "traditional" marriage... just say that, it's easier!
It's not ever a matter of what would or wouldn't hurt you personally... It doesn't hurt you personally to have pedophiles perverting marriage to fuck children, if you have no children... it doesn't mean you just step aside and allow it because it doesn't effect YOU!
You ARE aware that people are currently permitted to have same-sex relationships and live next door to you, right? The ONLY thing we are really discussing here, is the involvement of the government in recognizing same-sex partnerships as marriage. It's not about discrimination or bigotry, this isn't equivalent to segregation or civil rights, and you actually OFFEND more people than you appeal to with that meme. My personal view is, the Federal government, and the State government for that matter, but particularly the Federal government, shouldn't have one iota of say-so in what defines marriage... either traditional or gay. They should be rendered completely neutral in this matter, and out of the realm of discussion over what "We The People" do. At the very least, it should be regarded as a state matter, but I don't even believe the state should sanction marriage.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
I'm sorry.....I didn't remember that you needed to be spoon fed what everyone else simply knows.........true, traditions can change....but not by having change stuffed down your throat.....