Liars and Crooks

[Canceled2]

Changing Stance, Administration Now Defends Insurance Mandate as a Tax
By ROBERT PEAR
Published: July 16, 2010


WASHINGTON — When Congress required most Americans to obtain health insurance or pay a penalty, Democrats denied that they were creating a new tax. But in court, the Obama administration and its allies now defend the requirement as an exercise of the government’s “power to lay and collect taxes.”

 

[Don Quixote]

Changing Stance, Administration Now Defends Insurance Mandate as a Tax
By ROBERT PEAR
Published: July 16, 2010


WASHINGTON — When Congress required most Americans to obtain health insurance or pay a penalty, Democrats denied that they were creating a new tax. But in court, the Obama administration and its allies now defend the requirement as an exercise of the government’s “power to lay and collect taxes.”

i thought you were talking about the reps

 

[Canceled2]

i thought you were talking about the reps

Of course since it's dems they get a pass...nice hypocrisy.

 

[Don Quixote]

Of course since it's dems they get a pass...nice hypocrisy.

just considering you...and the reps

however, i could say the same for most politicians - just so for the reps more than the dems

oh well

 

[DamnYankee]

just considering you...and the reps

however, i could say the same for most politicians - just so for the reps more than the dems

oh well

Oh look, the deflection didn't work so you resort to the "them too" logical fallacy.

 

[christiefan915]

i thought you were talking about the reps

LOL, funny you should mention it. One of our very own Western PA political crime families made the front page of the news today.

Orie sisters accused of threatening DA over grand jury probe

An affidavit unsealed in the corruption case against state Sen. Jane Clare Orie says she and her sister, state Supreme Court Justice Joan Orie Melvin, dispatched an intermediary to convey threats in an attempt to halt a grand jury investigation into the senator.

The affidavit, which had previously been sealed by court order, became public when it was introduced into evidence at a preliminary hearing Monday in Allegheny County Common Pleas Court.

Robert Kramm, described as a political consultant for the Laborers' District Council of Western Pennsylvania, met Nov. 19 with officials at the district attorney's office. According to the affidavit filed by district attorney Detective Lyle Graber. Mr. Kramm said the Orie sisters had asked him to convey a series of messages that included a threat to launch a "Wecht style" attack if District Attorney Stephen A. Zappala Jr. allowed the investigation to continue.

<snip>

An Allegheny County grand jury earlier this year recommended charges against Ms. Orie, R-McCandless, and her sister, Janine, who was an aide to Judge Melvin, on allegations that they used employees and resources in Ms. Orie's state-funded office to help Justice Melvin's bids for the Supreme Court in 2003 and 2009. She won a seat on the Supreme Court last year.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10201/1073906-454.stm#ixzz0uEECza30

 

[DamnYankee]

Oh look, another "them too" from another political hack.

 

[Canceled1]

Oh look, another "them too" from another political hack.

"Robert Kramm, described as a political consultant for the Laborers' District Council of Western Pennsylvania"

I keep looking at this name and giggling. Walk softly, carry a big stick, and Kramm it down their throats!

 

[DamnYankee]

"Robert Kramm, described as a political consultant for the Laborers' District Council of Western Pennsylvania"

I keep looking at this name and giggling. Walk softly, carry a big stick, and Kramm it down their throats!

A attorney in Winston-Salem his last name is Holodick. There used to be a guy who wrote technical stuff, some university type, name was Richard I. Dick.

 

[Canceled2]

Oh look, the deflection didn't work so you resort to the "them too" logical fallacy.

This is so typical of intellectually dishonest people! Then again they have their elected president to thank for setting the example of finger pointing to deflect responsibility.

Now that they have made it clear this forced commerce is a tax? If you refuse to pay it you can be further fined and even jailed for tax evasion. Fucking lying sacks of shit! Our president and his cronies are lying bastard's who need to be ejected from office ASAP!

 

[Don Quixote]

just considering the source

if i were you i would look into the saying - people i glass houses should not throw rocks...

while both the dems and reps have corrupt and / or bad people, i think the reps have more than the dems

which is why i am not a member of either party...or any party

 

[cawacko]

just considering the source

if i were you i would look into the saying - people i glass houses should not throw rocks...

while both the dems and reps have corrupt and / or bad people, i think the reps have more than the dems

which is why i am not a member of either party...or any party

The source of the article is the New York Times.

 

[Don Quixote]

The source of the article is the New York Times.

i was referring to the poster...

 

[Liberty]

Changing Stance, Administration Now Defends Insurance Mandate as a Tax
By ROBERT PEAR
Published: July 16, 2010


WASHINGTON — When Congress required most Americans to obtain health insurance or pay a penalty, Democrats denied that they were creating a new tax. But in court, the Obama administration and its allies now defend the requirement as an exercise of the government’s “power to lay and collect taxes.”

I'm with you Ice Dancer.

But keep in mind that these politicians are saying, through the 16th amendment, they have a right to your unalienable right to property. Your property. Your body.

That's how bad this is.

 

[The Dude]

Crooks

 

[NOVA]

LOL, funny you should mention it. One of our very own Western PA political crime families made the front page of the news today.

Orie sisters accused of threatening DA over grand jury probe

An affidavit unsealed in the corruption case against state Sen. Jane Clare Orie says she and her sister, state Supreme Court Justice Joan Orie Melvin, dispatched an intermediary to convey threats in an attempt to halt a grand jury investigation into the senator.

The affidavit, which had previously been sealed by court order, became public when it was introduced into evidence at a preliminary hearing Monday in Allegheny County Common Pleas Court.

Robert Kramm, described as a political consultant for the Laborers' District Council of Western Pennsylvania, met Nov. 19 with officials at the district attorney's office. According to the affidavit filed by district attorney Detective Lyle Graber. Mr. Kramm said the Orie sisters had asked him to convey a series of messages that included a threat to launch a "Wecht style" attack if District Attorney Stephen A. Zappala Jr. allowed the investigation to continue.

<snip>

An Allegheny County grand jury earlier this year recommended charges against Ms. Orie, R-McCandless, and her sister, Janine, who was an aide to Judge Melvin, on allegations that they used employees and resources in Ms. Orie's state-funded office to help Justice Melvin's bids for the Supreme Court in 2003 and 2009. She won a seat on the Supreme Court last year.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10201/1073906-454.stm#ixzz0uEECza30

So the Orie sister's.....Republicans, go to a union political consultant for some underhanded dirty business ?......

Well, that is the right person to go to.........for Democrats anyway.....but for Republicans ?.....something smells.