Larry Summers said the likelihood of a US recession is rising

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Larry Summers says the good jobs numbers don’t tell the whole story—and, in fact, the risk of recession is rising

Former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers said the likelihood of a US recession is rising after a series of weak economic indicators and that the Federal Reserve is approaching the end of its series of interest-rate hikes.

“What’s pretty clear is that we’re in the very late innings of the current tightening cycle,” Summers said on Bloomberg Television’s “Wall Street Week” with David Westin. “Whether there’s going to be another move necessary or not, I think that’s a judgment they should be holding off on until the very last kind of moment,” he said of Fed policymakers, whose next decision comes May 3.

Summers discounted Friday’s March jobs report, which he said reflected the strength of the economy early in the first quarter but is now less relevant given prospects of a tightening in credit. The data showed another firm gain for US payrolls, with the unemployment rate dipping to 3.5%.

By contrast, weaker-than-expected purchasing manager surveys for manufacturing and services released this week showed a bigger slowdown in activity than expected. The ISM’s factory gauge hit the lowest level since the spring of 2020. Other data this week showed a slide in job openings and an increase in the trend for jobless claims.

“We’re getting a sense that there is some substantial amount of constriction in credit,” said Summers, a Harvard University professor and paid contributor to Bloomberg Television. “Recession probabilities are going up at this point. And I think the Fed’s got very, very difficult decisions ahead of it — with very much two-sided risk.”

Those two-sided risks reflect the consequences of the economy overheating, Summers said. He called on the Fed to engage in a broad review of its internal models, which failed to anticipate the surge in inflation that began in 2021 and didn’t capture the risks emerging in the banking system that came into focus with Silicon Valley Bank’s collapse last month.

“The Fed needs to engage in some serious soul searching,” Summers said. “Business as usual at the Fed has not been successful over the last two and a half years.”

Among the tasks for the US central bank is an entire reconsideration of how savings are intermediated into lending, Summers said. A key takeaway from the SVB disaster was how that lender’s deposit base was much less sticky than many had anticipated. The collapse also spurred a broader pattern of depositors searching for higher returns on their funds.

“We’ve had a financial system that has been based on the willingness of large numbers of households to earn almost nothing on their money — and I’m not sure that’s going to persist,” Summers said. “The Fed needs to do some very fundamental reflection on what kind of financial system they want to see us move into.”

https://fortune.com/2023/04/07/larry-summers-jobs-recession-risk-fed/
 
Wow, really sticking his neck out there ! We're already there but it will get far worse.
The debt bubble is without precedent or anything close to it.
People are going to wish Powell had been far more aggressive on inflation. Wasted a year with half measures. Yes, despite increases being historically high, the inflation monsters are far more powerful. Buy ammo while you can.
 
Larry Summers says the good jobs numbers don’t tell the whole story—and, in fact, the risk of recession is rising

Former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers said the likelihood of a US recession is rising after a series of weak economic indicators and that the Federal Reserve is approaching the end of its series of interest-rate hikes.

“What’s pretty clear is that we’re in the very late innings of the current tightening cycle,” Summers said on Bloomberg Television’s “Wall Street Week” with David Westin. “Whether there’s going to be another move necessary or not, I think that’s a judgment they should be holding off on until the very last kind of moment,” he said of Fed policymakers, whose next decision comes May 3.

Summers discounted Friday’s March jobs report, which he said reflected the strength of the economy early in the first quarter but is now less relevant given prospects of a tightening in credit. The data showed another firm gain for US payrolls, with the unemployment rate dipping to 3.5%.

By contrast, weaker-than-expected purchasing manager surveys for manufacturing and services released this week showed a bigger slowdown in activity than expected. The ISM’s factory gauge hit the lowest level since the spring of 2020. Other data this week showed a slide in job openings and an increase in the trend for jobless claims.

“We’re getting a sense that there is some substantial amount of constriction in credit,” said Summers, a Harvard University professor and paid contributor to Bloomberg Television. “Recession probabilities are going up at this point. And I think the Fed’s got very, very difficult decisions ahead of it — with very much two-sided risk.”

Those two-sided risks reflect the consequences of the economy overheating, Summers said. He called on the Fed to engage in a broad review of its internal models, which failed to anticipate the surge in inflation that began in 2021 and didn’t capture the risks emerging in the banking system that came into focus with Silicon Valley Bank’s collapse last month.

“The Fed needs to engage in some serious soul searching,” Summers said. “Business as usual at the Fed has not been successful over the last two and a half years.”

Among the tasks for the US central bank is an entire reconsideration of how savings are intermediated into lending, Summers said. A key takeaway from the SVB disaster was how that lender’s deposit base was much less sticky than many had anticipated. The collapse also spurred a broader pattern of depositors searching for higher returns on their funds.

“We’ve had a financial system that has been based on the willingness of large numbers of households to earn almost nothing on their money — and I’m not sure that’s going to persist,” Summers said. “The Fed needs to do some very fundamental reflection on what kind of financial system they want to see us move into.”

https://fortune.com/2023/04/07/larry-summers-jobs-recession-risk-fed/

Who care what Summers thinks. He only cares what makes him richer.
 
The risk is like 99%...what is not known is if it degrades into a depression.

I strongly suspect that it will.
 
Feb 2023 ShadowStats Alternate Unemployment increased to 24.6% on top of U.6 rising to 6.8% from 6.6%.

What does on top of U 6 mean to you? It sounds like real unemployment is Alternate Unemployment of 24.6% plus U 6 unemployment of 6.8 = 31.4% unemployment.

At the height of the Depression in 1933, 24.9% of the total work force or 12,830,000 people was unemployed.

We're already in the Greater Depression.
 
It doesn't take that many sheepdogs to herd the sheep onto the truck for their final journey.
 
So many lower wage jobs in my area going unfilled because too many unskilled workers feel those jobs are beneath them somehow. What does an unskilled worker expect from an entry level job? You take a job, work hard, be on time,...work your way up. Thats how life works. Or at least used to work. So many also refuse to work full time because if they do they earn too much and lose state handout welfare benefits so instead they demand part time work only, if they even work at all.

The local Taco bells in rural Wisconsin are starting unskilled people out at 18.00 per hour and they still cant field a crew big enuff to stay open for their normal hours of operation. I have to admit,....its starting to get to the point where I finally dont care anymore. Im set up,...we will be fine. If it all goes in the dumper so be it.
 
I do like that, is it original?
I can't find the author but it has to be an old Scottish poet. One of the best cyber debates I had was on the percentage of people that are robots (sheep). We eventually decided on 95% of humans go through their entire life programed to do what they're told. We saw it with covid masks and mandatory jabs. And before that we saw it with the Patriot acts and militarized police.

Only about 5% of us did anything to prevent our natural human rights from being taken away from us.
 
Larry Summers said the likelihood of a US recession is rising

If we are already in a depression, how could there be a rising likelihood of a recession? We would already be 100% beyond a recession.

Summers is right, and reasonable. We are defeating inflation, but it will cost us. The fact that we are talking about such a low cost is one of the greatest economic miracles of the last half century. There is a 50/50 chance of a recession, and even if we get a recession, it will almost certainly be extremely mild.

Any other time, we would be talking about 100% of a severe recession to get rid of inflation.
 
“We’ve had a financial system that has been based on the willingness of large numbers of households to earn almost nothing on their money — and I’m not sure that’s going to persist,” Summers said. “The Fed needs to do some very fundamental reflection on what kind of financial system they want to see us move into.”

https://fortune.com/2023/04/07/larry-summers-jobs-recession-risk-fed/
The financial system always chose to pump billions into the Market in order to keep investors happy. Once that stopped, the market came back down to Earth and the wealthy screamed that the sky is falling.

Nobody was 'willing' to earn nothing on their money. There was no choice unless you wanted to play the Market.

Once rates began to rise, people went looking for the highest safe returns around. If banks kept up with those yields, there would not have been a run on the banks. Some are increasing yields now in an attempt to keep clients.

When 3 month T bills are paying almost 5%, why would anyone keep money in the bank at less than 1%? Perhaps some banks thought depositors were stupid?
 
U.6 rising to 6.8% from 6.6%.

Before the pandemic, the U-6 was 7.7%, so again things are better with Biden.
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_u_6_unemployment_rate_unadjusted

It sounds like real unemployment is Alternate Unemployment of 24.6% plus U 6 unemployment of 6.8 = 31.4% unemployment.

You are claiming a third of all Americans cannot find a job? Have you left your house lately? The number of help wanted signs has decreased, but they still are EVERYWHERE.

At the height of the Depression in 1933, 24.9% of the total work force or 12,830,000 people was unemployed.

At the height of the Great Depression, 25% of people looking for a job could not find a job of any type. This was far worse, because there was no unemployment insurance, or welfare programs, so long term unemployment would often lead to death. Right now, with all those programs making unemployment easier, the equivalent number is 3.5%.

Goat is desperate to compare apples to airplanes. If you compare apples to apples, you get a much better picture.

We're already in the Greater Depression.

We clearly are not. You are being silly.
 
If we are already in a depression, how could there be a rising likelihood of a recession? We would already be 100% beyond a recession.

Summers is right, and reasonable. We are defeating inflation, but it will cost us. The fact that we are talking about such a low cost is one of the greatest economic miracles of the last half century. There is a 50/50 chance of a recession, and even if we get a recession, it will almost certainly be extremely mild.

Any other time, we would be talking about 100% of a severe recession to get rid of inflation.
I still say this inflation is a combination of several factors. Chinese chickens coming home to roost due to Covid, coupled with many corporations taking advantage and making record profits.

Unstable fuel prices caused by Wall St. are another big factor. Again...profits above all. How can prices not increase?
 
Before the pandemic, the U-6 was 7.7%, so again things are better with Biden.
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_u_6_unemployment_rate_unadjusted



You are claiming a third of all Americans cannot find a job? Have you left your house lately? The number of help wanted signs has decreased, but they still are EVERYWHERE.



At the height of the Great Depression, 25% of people looking for a job could not find a job of any type. This was far worse, because there was no unemployment insurance, or welfare programs, so long term unemployment would often lead to death. Right now, with all those programs making unemployment easier, the equivalent number is 3.5%.

Goat is desperate to compare apples to airplanes. If you compare apples to apples, you get a much better picture.



We clearly are not. You are being silly.
Government can get you to believe anything. Here is the unemployment chart going all the way back to 1994. The hockey stick was during the 2008 Wall Street bailout, and the spike was caused by what the establishment wants us to believe was covid. A strong economy could easily withstand any pandemic. Note that real unemployment has been above 20% for 15 years now. That's about as far from a strong economy as we can get. Things will only get worse with the upcoming Wall Steet bailout.

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We clearly are not. You are being silly.
What happened to my economist friend, Walt. I posted a chart showing unemployment above 20% for 15 years straight. The chart shows how government lies to keep the cul-de-sac telling their kids that everything is great. The upcoming Wall Street bailout may be a quick spike like we saw in 2020, or it could be more like 2008.

The thing we do know from history is war is always the desperation of empire on a descent.
 
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