LA council-members face calls to resign over racist remarks

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LA council-members face calls to resign over racist remarks
Russell Contreras

Russell Contreras

Los Angeles Councilman Kevin de León and Los Angeles City Council President Nury Martinez confer at city council meeting.

Three Latino Los Angeles City Council members and an influential labor leader are facing calls to resign following a leaked recording of a conversation featuring racist remarks.

Driving the news: The California and Los Angeles branches of the NAACP demanded late Sunday that Council President Nury Martinez and the others resign after the Los Angeles Times reported she called a Black child a monkey.

The NAACP chapters also called on Councilmembers Gil Cedillo, Kevin de León, and Los Angeles County Federation of Labor President Ron Herrera to step down for participating in a discussion with anti-Black and anti-Indigenous comments.

Details: Martinez referred to a white councilmember's child, who is Black, as "ese changuito," or that little monkey, during a Martin Luther King Jr. Day parade, according to the leaked audio of a nearly year-old conversation.

Martinez also reportedly said that the councilor, Mike Bonin, handled his son as though he were an "accessory." She also referred to Bonin as a "little b---h."
Herrera suggested that Bonin puts his young son out in public like a lawn jockey, the racist statues used to invoke the antebellum South.

Martinez also is heard making fun of Indigenous people from the Mexican state of Oaxaca, who have migrated to Los Angeles.

She referred to them as "short little dark people" and called them "ugly."

What they're saying: "This kind of overt racism has no place in political discourse," Rick L. Callender, President of the CA/HI State Conference of the NAACP, said in a statement.

"We clearly know where your heart and mind are, and both of them are corroded with the rust of racism and hate."

Meanwhile, Los Angles Oaxacan chef, restaurateur, and Gold Award recipient Bricia Lopez joined in calls for resignations on social media.

The words out of (Nury Martinez's) mouth cut deep in the Oaxaca community of LA. I've dealt w my fair share of racism. But it's ten times worse when it comes from a brown and woman. Girl, you gotta resign," she tweeted.

Zoom out: The secretly recorded conversation revolved around the councilors' frustration that the growing Latino population wasn't resulting in more Latino council districts and concerns Black leaders were keeping some Black-majority ones.

Martinez, De León, and Herrera have issued statements of apology for their roles in the conversation. Cedillo told the Los Angeles Times he had no memory of the discussion.

Of note: Protesters demonstrated outside of Martinez's home and played portions of the audio recording on Sunday.

Los Angeles police were later seen in video shared to social media attempting to move the crowd away from her house.
https://www.axios.com/2022/10/10/los-angeles-council-members-racist-remarks-resign-calls
 
"Los Angeles police were later seen in video shared to social media attempting to move the crowd away from her house."

The DC police did not attempt to move the crowd away from the Supreme Court Justices' homes where protestors were violating federal law.
 
LA council-members face calls to resign over racist remarks
Russell Contreras

Russell Contreras

Los Angeles Councilman Kevin de León and Los Angeles City Council President Nury Martinez confer at city council meeting.

Three Latino Los Angeles City Council members and an influential labor leader are facing calls to resign following a leaked recording of a conversation featuring racist remarks.

Driving the news: The California and Los Angeles branches of the NAACP demanded late Sunday that Council President Nury Martinez and the others resign after the Los Angeles Times reported she called a Black child a monkey.

The NAACP chapters also called on Councilmembers Gil Cedillo, Kevin de León, and Los Angeles County Federation of Labor President Ron Herrera to step down for participating in a discussion with anti-Black and anti-Indigenous comments.

Details: Martinez referred to a white councilmember's child, who is Black, as "ese changuito," or that little monkey, during a Martin Luther King Jr. Day parade, according to the leaked audio of a nearly year-old conversation.

Martinez also reportedly said that the councilor, Mike Bonin, handled his son as though he were an "accessory." She also referred to Bonin as a "little b---h."
Herrera suggested that Bonin puts his young son out in public like a lawn jockey, the racist statues used to invoke the antebellum South.

Martinez also is heard making fun of Indigenous people from the Mexican state of Oaxaca, who have migrated to Los Angeles.

She referred to them as "short little dark people" and called them "ugly."

What they're saying: "This kind of overt racism has no place in political discourse," Rick L. Callender, President of the CA/HI State Conference of the NAACP, said in a statement.

"We clearly know where your heart and mind are, and both of them are corroded with the rust of racism and hate."

Meanwhile, Los Angles Oaxacan chef, restaurateur, and Gold Award recipient Bricia Lopez joined in calls for resignations on social media.

The words out of (Nury Martinez's) mouth cut deep in the Oaxaca community of LA. I've dealt w my fair share of racism. But it's ten times worse when it comes from a brown and woman. Girl, you gotta resign," she tweeted.

Zoom out: The secretly recorded conversation revolved around the councilors' frustration that the growing Latino population wasn't resulting in more Latino council districts and concerns Black leaders were keeping some Black-majority ones.

Martinez, De León, and Herrera have issued statements of apology for their roles in the conversation. Cedillo told the Los Angeles Times he had no memory of the discussion.

Of note: Protesters demonstrated outside of Martinez's home and played portions of the audio recording on Sunday.

Los Angeles police were later seen in video shared to social media attempting to move the crowd away from her house.
https://www.axios.com/2022/10/10/los-angeles-council-members-racist-remarks-resign-calls

Sounds like a boiling pot of shit to me. It seems like this wasn't just a single off handed comment but a pretty consistent train of thought. Still people personal views and opinions are separate from how they behave. I think we need to judge behavior not just views and opinions.
 
Sounds like a boiling pot of shit to me. It seems like this wasn't just a single off handed comment but a pretty consistent train of thought. Still people personal views and opinions are separate from how they behave. I think we need to judge behavior not just views and opinions.

Peoples' personal views and opinions affect how they behave.

Racism is unacceptable with any ethnic group.

I've heard the "N" word used by Blacks multiple times when angered by another Black.

Unacceptable.
 
Secret recording controversy: LA City Council President Nury Martinez under criticism for racist remarks.

 
Peoples' personal views and opinions affect how they behave.

Racism is unacceptable with any ethnic group.

I've heard the "N" word used by Blacks multiple times when angered by another Black.

Unacceptable.

Personal views and opinions may effect behavior but behavior is all that matters. In what ways did these personal views and opinions effect how she treated the people she disparaged? The article doesn't point that out.
 
Personal views and opinions may effect behavior but behavior is all that matters. In what ways did these personal views and opinions effect how she treated the people she disparaged? The article doesn't point that out.

Cause and affect. A politician can not be a racist, period and serve the entire community.

The salient part is that this Latina, Martinez, referred to a white council member's child, who is black, as "ese changuito," or that little monkey, during a Martin Luther King Jr. Day parade, according to the leaked audio of a nearly year-old conversation."

Unacceptable.
 
Cause and affect. A politician can not be a racist, period and serve the entire community.

The salient part is that this Latina, Martinez, referred to a white council member's child, who is black, as "ese changuito," or that little monkey, during a Martin Luther King Jr. Day parade, according to the leaked audio of a nearly year-old conversation."

Unacceptable.

I agree with all this but in what tangible way has this persons "racism" effected how she has acted as an elected official of those groups? Did she vote for an ordinance that would restrict their rights?
 
I agree with all this but in what tangible way has this persons "racism" effected how she has acted as an elected official of those groups? Did she vote for an ordinance that would restrict their rights?

I have no idea how she votes but she has been exposed as a virulent racist and this is not acceptable.

This applies to non-minorities too.
 
I have no idea how she votes but she has been exposed as a virulent racist and this is not acceptable.

This applies to non-minorities too.

Why is it not acceptable if her personal views and opinions haven't negatively impacted the people who elected her?
 
Why is it not acceptable if her personal views and opinions haven't negatively impacted the people who elected her?

Semantics, virulent racism expressed by a politician who is supposed to be neutral on matters of race violates the fairness principle.
 
Semantics, virulent racism expressed by a politician who is supposed to be neutral on matters of race violates the fairness principle.

No I don't believe it's semantics. These kinds of things border on thought control. What does a "neutral" position on race look like? Do you know anyone who is? What's the "fairness principle"?
 
Neutral on matters of race means that they can not use race as a criterion for any action they take.

Presupposed racism negates the principle of fairness in all matters of governance.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one

Of course, I am right...lol
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Neutral on matters of race means that they can not use race as a criterion for any action they take.

Presupposed racism negates the principle of fairness in all matters of governance.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one

Of course, I am right...lol
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Can anyone show that the people who expressed those views used their views on race as "...a criterion for any action they..." took?

If the answer is "No" then you're more than wrong.
 
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