Dixie - In Memoriam
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US Attorney General Eric Holder has decided to try the terrorist mastermind of 9/11, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, in a US Federal Court. This decision, I believe, will expose the idiocy of liberals, when it comes to combating terror, or even dealing with terrorists we happen to capture. The first effect of this decision is already being realized, as army officials re-evaluate policy regarding captured detainees in the fields of battle. Now, they will have to consider the combatant will get full US jurisprudence according to the Constitution. This essentially means our military can't simply capture enemies on the fields of battle anymore, they must 'arrest' them, read their MIRANDA rights, and appoint an attorney if they can't afford one. Since you can't really exercise a proper arrest without a warrant, the military will have to compile enough evidence to have a prosecutor petition a judge for a warrant, then the army can capture an enemy combatant and process him for trial.
When Holder was asked a pertinent direct question about what happens if KSM is somehow acquitted, he said he refused to get into a hypothetical, and did not answer the question. When pressed further, he insisted KSM will not get off. I think if I am KSM's defense attorney, I want a copy of the tape where the US Attorney General admits my client will not have a fair trial and is already presumed guilty before the trial. Holder may have thought he was being clever to dodge a tough but legitimate question, however, he may have already tainted the possibility for a Federal Court to do anything other than declare a mistrial.
Here is the real problem, KSM was not "arrested" or held in custody by traditional means, so all of the usual law enforcement protocols which would normally apply to a civil arrest, simply aren't there. KSM was captured on a foreign field of battle, in a war, by our military. KSM was not read his Miranda rights, and his confession was not made in the presence of his attorney-- rather-- after being interrogated on a water board. So why Holder thinks the case is a slam dunk, I don't know. Seems like any half-decent defense attorney would have this case dismissed in about 20 mins., on those grounds alone. If not dismissed entirely, certainly the 'evidence' can't be used against him in the trial. Anyone who has watched Law & Order should know that.
I see the makings of a legal can of worms nightmare, and I don't think the liberals thought it through completely. This will undoubtedly be one of the most famous trials in American history, and World history for that matter... millions of people will be following every single minute detail. The courts will have to decide whether it should be televised... we'll have the network news crews creating special programs devoted to covering KSM's trial... each night the guest panel will pick over every tiny detail of the day... this will go on for months. All the while, KSM will use the opportunity to grandstand, make outrageous political statements, speak to his Jihadist following, spread radical Islamic propaganda... whatever the hell he pleases, because we have to allow him the same rights as an American citizen would have in a courtroom.
This is probably the most stupid thing I have ever seen any administration do in my lifetime. I'm 50 years old, so that is a long time... I've seen administrations do a lot of stupid shit. There is no 'upside' to this, as far as I can see. That is what puzzles me the most about why the administration chose this road. It seems they are just unable to see what a disaster this is going to end up being, and the consequences are going to fall squarely on them in the end.
Liberals used to be really good at trying to get me to "see things from the radical islamic perspective" ...I was told how I just didn't understand this was about their religious culture and societal struggle... jihad means struggle... Well... Try to see this from the Islamic perspective... KSM is a hero to them, he is a courageous religious leader who led the charge against the Great Satan... What are they going to think/say/do, when we execute him? Are we really ready for the ramifications of that, when he is put to death?
When Holder was asked a pertinent direct question about what happens if KSM is somehow acquitted, he said he refused to get into a hypothetical, and did not answer the question. When pressed further, he insisted KSM will not get off. I think if I am KSM's defense attorney, I want a copy of the tape where the US Attorney General admits my client will not have a fair trial and is already presumed guilty before the trial. Holder may have thought he was being clever to dodge a tough but legitimate question, however, he may have already tainted the possibility for a Federal Court to do anything other than declare a mistrial.
Here is the real problem, KSM was not "arrested" or held in custody by traditional means, so all of the usual law enforcement protocols which would normally apply to a civil arrest, simply aren't there. KSM was captured on a foreign field of battle, in a war, by our military. KSM was not read his Miranda rights, and his confession was not made in the presence of his attorney-- rather-- after being interrogated on a water board. So why Holder thinks the case is a slam dunk, I don't know. Seems like any half-decent defense attorney would have this case dismissed in about 20 mins., on those grounds alone. If not dismissed entirely, certainly the 'evidence' can't be used against him in the trial. Anyone who has watched Law & Order should know that.
I see the makings of a legal can of worms nightmare, and I don't think the liberals thought it through completely. This will undoubtedly be one of the most famous trials in American history, and World history for that matter... millions of people will be following every single minute detail. The courts will have to decide whether it should be televised... we'll have the network news crews creating special programs devoted to covering KSM's trial... each night the guest panel will pick over every tiny detail of the day... this will go on for months. All the while, KSM will use the opportunity to grandstand, make outrageous political statements, speak to his Jihadist following, spread radical Islamic propaganda... whatever the hell he pleases, because we have to allow him the same rights as an American citizen would have in a courtroom.
This is probably the most stupid thing I have ever seen any administration do in my lifetime. I'm 50 years old, so that is a long time... I've seen administrations do a lot of stupid shit. There is no 'upside' to this, as far as I can see. That is what puzzles me the most about why the administration chose this road. It seems they are just unable to see what a disaster this is going to end up being, and the consequences are going to fall squarely on them in the end.
Liberals used to be really good at trying to get me to "see things from the radical islamic perspective" ...I was told how I just didn't understand this was about their religious culture and societal struggle... jihad means struggle... Well... Try to see this from the Islamic perspective... KSM is a hero to them, he is a courageous religious leader who led the charge against the Great Satan... What are they going to think/say/do, when we execute him? Are we really ready for the ramifications of that, when he is put to death?
