Krugman Makes No Cents

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In his weekly column and recent New York Times Magazine story, “How Did Economists Get It So Wrong?” Paul Krugman blasts economic theory, argues against free markets and says that the country needs more taxpayer-funded “stimulus,” not less. He also faults economists for not predicting the crisis. In an essay on his web site, John H. Cochrane, finance professor at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, wonders “How did Paul Krugman get it so wrong?” An excerpt:

It’s fun to say we didn’t see the crisis coming, but the central prediction of the efficient markets hypothesis is precisely that nobody can tell where markets are going — neither benevolent government bureaucrats, nor crafty hedge-fund managers, nor ivory-tower academics. This is probably the best-tested proposition in all the social sciences.

Paul Krugman writes as if the volatility of stock prices alone disproves market efficiency, and efficient marketers just ignored it all these years. But there is nothing about “efficiency” that promises “stability.” “Stable” growth would in fact be a major violation of efficiency.

Crying “bubble” is empty unless you have an operational procedure for identifying bubbles, distinguishing them from rationally low-risk premiums, and not crying wolf too many years in a row. Krugman rightly praises Robert Shiller for his warnings over many years that house prices might fall. But advice that we should listen to Shiller, because he got the last one right, is no more useful than previous advice from many quarters to listen to Alan Greenspan because he got several ones right. Following the last mystic oracle until he gets one wrong, then casting him aside, is not a good long-term strategy for identifying bubbles.

This difficulty is no surprise. No academic, bureaucrat or regulator will ever be able to fully explain market price movements. Nobody knows what “fundamental” value is. If anyone could tell what the price of tomatoes should be, let alone the price of Microsoft stock, communism would have worked.

More deeply, the economist’s job is not to “explain” market fluctuations after the fact, to give a pleasant story on the evening news about why markets went up or down. Markets up? “A wave of positive sentiment.” Markets went down? “Irrational pessimism.” (“The risk premium must have increased” is just as empty.) Our ancestors could do that. Really, is that an improvement on “Zeus had a fight with Apollo”? Good serious behavioral economists know this, and they are circumspect in their explanatory claims.
 
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In his weekly column and recent New York Times Magazine story, “How Did Economists Get It So Wrong?” Paul Krugman blasts economic theory, argues against free markets and says that the country needs more taxpayer-funded “stimulus,” not less. He also faults economists for not predicting the crisis. In an essay on his web site, John H. Cochrane, finance professor at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, wonders “How did Paul Krugman get it so wrong?” An excerpt:

It’s fun to say we didn’t see the crisis coming, but the central prediction of the efficient markets hypothesis is precisely that nobody can tell where markets are going — neither benevolent government bureaucrats, nor crafty hedge-fund managers, nor ivory-tower academics. This is probably the best-tested proposition in all the social sciences.

Paul Krugman writes as if the volatility of stock prices alone disproves market efficiency, and efficient marketers just ignored it all these years. But there is nothing about “efficiency” that promises “stability.” “Stable” growth would in fact be a major violation of efficiency.

Crying “bubble” is empty unless you have an operational procedure for identifying bubbles, distinguishing them from rationally low-risk premiums, and not crying wolf too many years in a row. Krugman rightly praises Robert Shiller for his warnings over many years that house prices might fall. But advice that we should listen to Shiller, because he got the last one right, is no more useful than previous advice from many quarters to listen to Alan Greenspan because he got several ones right. Following the last mystic oracle until he gets one wrong, then casting him aside, is not a good long-term strategy for identifying bubbles.

This difficulty is no surprise. No academic, bureaucrat or regulator will ever be able to fully explain market price movements. Nobody knows what “fundamental” value is. If anyone could tell what the price of tomatoes should be, let alone the price of Microsoft stock, communism would have worked.

More deeply, the economist’s job is not to “explain” market fluctuations after the fact, to give a pleasant story on the evening news about why markets went up or down. Markets up? “A wave of positive sentiment.” Markets went down? “Irrational pessimism.” (“The risk premium must have increased” is just as empty.) Our ancestors could do that. Really, is that an improvement on “Zeus had a fight with Apollo”? Good serious behavioral economists know this, and they are circumspect in their explanatory claims.

I think Cochrane is wrong, Buffet has made a fortune measuring stock values, not tomatoes, using the theories of Benjamin Graham, not Milton Friedman. Don't "Bubbles" disprove market efficiency? Most of all "Supply Side" theory has proven to be a consistent failure.
Krugman makes no "Cents" to News Corp and its "experts" which is not surprising.
Regarding his last paragraph, we should now all avoid tuning in to Kudlow or Cavuto since Cochrane has now proven their market opinions are meaningless.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_H._Cochrane

What's that John? Not notable enough for a wikipedia article? :(


Paul Krugman's bit blasting Cochrane is one of my favorite pieces by his:

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/27/hangover-theorists/

No matter what the pseudo-economists say, they do not have a monopoly on economic theory. Which is why it is stupid in this article when the pseudo-economist Cochrane says Krugman attacks "economic theory" - neoclassicists just can't comprehend how anyone could say anything is economic theory besides neoclassicism. Such small minds. It's almost pathetic.
 
Up until the 20's we had neoclassical economics - which is essentially what Austrianism is now, because Austrians believe that where theory and reality conflict, theory is correct. That was revolutionized to Keynesianism in the 30's. The crisis in the late 70's led to Monetarist dominance in the decades up until now, and Monetarism was essentially somewhere between Austrianism and Keynesianism. This new crisis is causing the economic consensus to go back somewhere in between Keynesianism and Monetarism (the scientific theories of economics), with the Austrians (pseudo scientific theories of economics) left in the dust. Keep them there.
 
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Well I saw this coming and Krugman and the other experts did not.

If you predict gloom all the time you're bound to "predict" it correctly some time. You just refuse to count all the years you predicted doom - and it's literally been all of them all your life - as counting towards your record. It's cherry-picking. Ignoring the bad and only presenting the good.
 
This did not happen just because of the housing bubble. There were a lot of bubbles out there.

Personal debt bubble.
home equity bubble.
Job loss bubble with offshoring and such.
High energy prices.
Deregulation bubble.

I knew it would happen pretty soon. Just because I could not give you a date and time does not mean I did not see it coming.
 
This did not happen just because of the housing bubble. There were a lot of bubbles out there.

Personal debt bubble.
home equity bubble.
Job loss bubble with offshoring and such.
High energy prices.
Deregulation bubble.

I knew it would happen pretty soon. Just because I could not give you a date and time does not mean I did not see it coming.

lol.....as if the housing bubble didn't affect our situation....it was as close to 100% becuase of the housing situtation....when the stock bubble burst, everybody said it was a recession and we are in trouble....bush gives a tax rebate, which gave a boost to the economy....people dumped their stocks and bought land.....which led to the real estate bubble.....

yet you foolishly want to blame high energy prices and this nebilous deregulation bubble.....the economy was on the downward trend before oil skyrocketed.....that is a fact.....

you just want to blame bush and conservatives.....that is disingenuous
 
waterturd nice GED burn,
GED nice rear view mirror looking, your a great advertisement for not dropping out of college.
 
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