Just over a month to go, and Dems still have NOTHING!

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

To me the '90's were great. With the Republican Congress battling Clinton the American people were the winner in that one imo. I want to see that again. Of course it's a lot easier when you are the opposition party. I think Republicans know if they win back the House and blow it this time they will be in the wilderness for awhile.

Well, what I want to see, is the '94 Republican Congress, and a president like Ronald Reagan, at the same time! This is how you get a Balanced Budget Amendment... this is how you get 0% Cap Gains taxes... This is how you would get abolition of the IRS and a Fair Tax... This is how you get rid of the Department of Education and have a Vouchers program... This is how you return to some sort of fiscal sanity, and start to reduce the national debt.

I think you are setting the Republicans up for certain failure, if you think that giving them a simple majority, with this bunch of Marxists on the other side, is going to generate much real change. They can stop some of Obama's spending, they can keep us from going even further off a cliff, maybe... but actually improving the economy and reducing the size and scope of government isn't going to happen until they can pass some of their legislation into law, and how do you do that with Marxists opposing you?

Do the fucking math here... You need 60 votes to pass anything in Congress... 70 to override a presidential veto. So how in the hell can you expect 51 Republicans to effectively pass a solid conservative agenda? They will need 20 or so Democrats on their side, and right now, they don't have 20 Democrats who would piss on them to put them out if they were on fire! These people in the Democrat Party are Socialist Democrats... MARXISTS! They are NOT going to support ANY of the Republican Conservative agenda.

You are falling right into the trap set by liberals... This whole thing about... Well, if Republicans don't do something this time.... Hell, they haven't ever had a first time! They barely controlled a majority, but they couldn't pass legislation! So what they chose to do, was co-opt Moderate Democrat ideas, and try to garner enough support to pass something. They veered from core conservative principles and started down this road of Compassionate Conservatism, because they lacked the support in Congress to get anything done otherwise. Even in the sweep of '94, they didn't have a strong enough Senate to get most of their initiative passed into law. They are going to need a super-majority in order to do that, and until they get that, there isn't a whole lot you can expect from Republicans, and that's just the facts of the matter. It's not because Republicans don't want to do these things, it's because they lack the political power in Congress to do them! You've got to put more Conservatives in power, and get rid of some of the Marxists. Give Conservatives the overwhelming majority in both houses, with a Conservative president, and you'll get all this stuff you are longing for. But that is the ONLY way it happens!

 

[Socrtease]

Well, I'm not dixie, but I think-- no! Wait a sec. I hope! --I hope the people elect someone who will repeal the health insurance mandates so employers of america can afford to hire new people in the future. The democrats have added new costs to business operations without any firm numbers on which business can plan. That alone is responsible for the lack of hiring. They have no idea how much the insurance companies are going to charge them for their employees. How the hell can you expect them to hire people when they have no idea what the true costs are going to be?

Democrats prove to be inept at business prediction. Seriously, you guys are braindead when it comes to understanding how business is going to react to your legislative bullying. Your officials didn't even read the law they voted on

I agree with all of this, but don't recall you bellyaching about the fact that key pieces of the Patriot Act were not even completely written when passed so the congress, the whole congress, didn't read that either.

 

[cawacko]

Well, what I want to see, is the '94 Republican Congress, and a president like Ronald Reagan, at the same time! This is how you get a Balanced Budget Amendment... this is how you get 0% Cap Gains taxes... This is how you would get abolition of the IRS and a Fair Tax... This is how you get rid of the Department of Education and have a Vouchers program... This is how you return to some sort of fiscal sanity, and start to reduce the national debt.

I think you are setting the Republicans up for certain failure, if you think that giving them a simple majority, with this bunch of Marxists on the other side, is going to generate much real change. They can stop some of Obama's spending, they can keep us from going even further off a cliff, maybe... but actually improving the economy and reducing the size and scope of government isn't going to happen until they can pass some of their legislation into law, and how do you do that with Marxists opposing you?

Do the fucking math here... You need 60 votes to pass anything in Congress... 70 to override a presidential veto. So how in the hell can you expect 51 Republicans to effectively pass a solid conservative agenda? They will need 20 or so Democrats on their side, and right now, they don't have 20 Democrats who would piss on them to put them out if they were on fire! These people in the Democrat Party are Socialist Democrats... MARXISTS! They are NOT going to support ANY of the Republican Conservative agenda.

You are falling right into the trap set by liberals... This whole thing about... Well, if Republicans don't do something this time.... Hell, they haven't ever had a first time! They barely controlled a majority, but they couldn't pass legislation! So what they chose to do, was co-opt Moderate Democrat ideas, and try to garner enough support to pass something. They veered from core conservative principles and started down this road of Compassionate Conservatism, because they lacked the support in Congress to get anything done otherwise. Even in the sweep of '94, they didn't have a strong enough Senate to get most of their initiative passed into law. They are going to need a super-majority in order to do that, and until they get that, there isn't a whole lot you can expect from Republicans, and that's just the facts of the matter. It's not because Republicans don't want to do these things, it's because they lack the political power in Congress to do them! You've got to put more Conservatives in power, and get rid of some of the Marxists. Give Conservatives the overwhelming majority in both houses, with a Conservative president, and you'll get all this stuff you are longing for. But that is the ONLY way it happens!

No the Republicans did great in the '90's and then the country gave them a chance to have both a Republican Congress and President and we freaking blew it.

I would hope a Republican House could block liberal legislation Obama wants to pass. I don't expect anymore because Obama can veto everything. There won't be a Republican Congress and President again until the Republicans in Congress show they can actually act fiscally conservatively.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

No the Republicans did great in the '90's and then the country gave them a chance to have both a Republican Congress and President and we freaking blew it.

I would hope a Republican House could block liberal legislation Obama wants to pass. I don't expect anymore because Obama can veto everything. There won't be a Republican Congress and President again until the Republicans in Congress show they can actually act fiscally conservatively.

Well, like I said... do the math! It takes 60 votes to pass anything. Where are they going to get the 60 votes needed? In the 90's, we still had conservative democrats like Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman, hell, Zell was Clinton's keynote speaker and the one who coined the phrase "feel your pain!" But these Marxist Socialists have run all of those people out of the party now, and there are no "moderate" democrats like we had in the 90s.

Republicans in congress can talk about fiscal responsibility all they like, until they get enough political power to implement legislation, what are they going to actually be able to do about it? You seem to think we should give them a simple majority in the House, and if they don't perform, that's it for Republicans! It's unrealistic, they have to gain something near a super-majority in the House AND Senate, to be able to effectively legislate conservative policy. We can pound them over the head all we like, but unless they have that kind of power, they can't govern, not with the opposition being total and complete Marxists.

 

[Onceler]

No the Republicans did great in the '90's and then the country gave them a chance to have both a Republican Congress and President and we freaking blew it.

I would hope a Republican House could block liberal legislation Obama wants to pass. I don't expect anymore because Obama can veto everything. There won't be a Republican Congress and President again until the Republicans in Congress show they can actually act fiscally conservatively.

It's interesting; the one silver lining I saw in GOP control of both the White House & Congress was that they would probably reign spending in, in a big (though likely reckless) way.

It was a shocker when they spent like mad, and Cheney was saying things like "deficit spending doesn't matter." It certainly added to Nader's argument that corps basically own the gov't.