Judge grants TRO vacating Trump immigrant ban executive order

Micawber

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Nice job AG state of Washington!!!! Way to tee it up.

Hopefully before monday you (or somebody on your team) will actually know the difference between an TRO and a Preliminary injunction.:palm:

Other than than, strong. Truth to power...all that.
 
You ignorant ass, it was not vacated, it was merely halted. This is a regional district court, his opinion does not hold sway over anything but his district. If another district goes against him, his order only applies to his district and I am surprised he thinks his order applies across the nation.

Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
 
You ignorant ass, it was not vacated, it was merely halted. This is a regional district court, his opinion does not hold sway over anything but his district. If another district goes against him, his order only applies to his district and I am surprised he thinks his order applies across the nation.

Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

As much as YaYurt the trumptard wants to defend his orange masters order, he is lying. The EO is halted nationally...
It was a FEDERAL judge...
 
As much as YaYurt the trumptard wants to defend his orange masters order, he is lying. The EO is halted nationally...
It was a FEDERAL judge...

You don't shit about how the federal judicial system works, do you?

I find it humorous how your troll ass continues to say I have to defend him when I keep posting threads, and posts against him. You're nothing but a troll. Thingy bans me because he claims I'm like you, yet, he goes into my threads and other threads and we have good conversations. You? Never, you're just a shit troll.

GFY
 
You don't shit about how the federal judicial system works, do you?

I find it humorous how your troll ass continues to say I have to defend him when I keep posting threads, and posts against him. You're nothing but a troll. Thingy bans me because he claims I'm like you, yet, he goes into my threads and other threads and we have good conversations. You? Never, you're just a shit troll.

GFY

Fuck you lying YaYurt...

Bush-appointed judge halts Trump travel ban nationwide


http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/317884-washington-state-judge-halts-trump-immigration-ban-nationwide
 
"You ignorant ass, it was not vacated, it was merely halted. This is a regional district court, his opinion does not hold sway over anything but his district. If another district goes against him, his order only applies to his district and I am surprised he thinks his order applies across the nation.
Will be interesting to see how this plays out." Y #3


We don't need the disparaging ad hom, but thanks at least for distinguishing between stupidity and ignorance.

" his opinion does not hold sway over anything but his district "

It's an important point, and nearly true.
That judicial district may limit that judge's jurisdiction.

BUT !!

Stare Decisis applies to the entire nation.
If that judge's action stands in that one district, why could it not then be cited as precedent in any other judicial district in the country, at that level and purpose?
 
Absolutely; because as we all know, the Supreme Court has never overturned anything from a lower court.

This will NOT go 4 to 4...

This EO is in violation of some pretty basic constitutional premise...
The racist bigots have been stopped by the constitution...
Trump, Bannon and Flynn have been stopped...
 
This will NOT go 4 to 4...

This EO is in violation of some pretty basic constitutional premise...
The racist bigots have been stopped by the constitution...
Trump, Bannon and Flynn have been stopped...

4 to 5 or did you forget that President Trump gets to nominate who he wants to have on the SC? :good4u:

But please, state what violation of the constitution it's committing.
 
A TRO can be granted on ex parte application and the emphasis is on the emergency aspect and its extremely short duration, whereas a preliminary injunction requests an order pendente lite, throughout the litigation which may be a year or more until a final injunction is either granted on the merits, or not, after trial. Different standards and possibly different outcomes. But certainly a TRO is not granted without a showing of irreparable harm and a showing of entitlement. TROs can be granted and the burden for the prelim fails. Else there would scarcely be a reason to have the two different procedures.
 
"You ignorant ass, it was not vacated, it was merely halted. This is a regional district court, his opinion does not hold sway over anything but his district. If another district goes against him, his order only applies to his district and I am surprised he thinks his order applies across the nation.
Will be interesting to see how this plays out." Y #3


We don't need the disparaging ad hom, but thanks at least for distinguishing between stupidity and ignorance.

" his opinion does not hold sway over anything but his district "

It's an important point, and nearly true.
That judicial district may limit that judge's jurisdiction.

BUT !!

Stare Decisis applies to the entire nation.
If that judge's action stands in that one district, why could it not then be cited as precedent in any other judicial district in the country, at that level and purpose?

It is the law of the land as to all the "subjects" while in place but it is merely persuasive authority in any other state's district court. A TRO can scarcely be considered binding legal authority for anything much.
 
What is the Constitutional premise? Please be specific.

Are you one of those hypocrites who always demands others be specific and then just spouts platitudes and right wing tropes recited by your orange master, never grappling with specific facts yourself?

I don't have the filing or the TRO application or declarations in support, but I can guess one ground would be the executive order overruling the act of Congress, a coequal branch with province over lawmaking, and which afforded immigrant political refugees legal rights to asylum in the USA.
 
Are you one of those hypocrites who always demands others be specific and then just spouts platitudes and right wing tropes recited by your orange master, never grappling with specific facts yourself?

I don't have the filing or the TRO application or declarations in support, but I can guess one ground would be the executive order overruling the act of Congress, a coequal branch with province over lawmaking, and which afforded immigrant political refugees legal rights to asylum in the USA.

Trump didn't help himself by declaring that Christian refugees would be given preference.
 
Trump didn't help himself by declaring that Christian refugees would be given preference.

Why do you think we need more immigrants. Particularly muslimes?

Are you volunteering to take them in and support them since you want them here so badly?

I will understand if you are afraid to answer
 
this just in.....

Idiot judge makes idiot ruling based on no constitutional authority

he should be removed and permanently retired with no pension
 
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