Jesus Had a Wife, Newly Discovered Gospel Suggests

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A Harvard historian has identified a faded, fourth-century scrap of papyrus she calls "The Gospel of Jesus's Wife." One line of the torn fragment of text purportedly reads: "Jesus said to them, 'My wife …'" The following line states, "she will be able to be my disciple."


The finding was announced to the public today (Sept. 18) by Karen King, a historian of early Christianity, author of several books about new Gospel discoveries and the Hollis professor of divinity at Harvard Divinity School. King first examined the privately owned fragment in 2011, and has since been studying it with the help of a small group of scholars.


According to the New York Times, King and her collaborators have concluded that the business card-size fragment is not a forgery, and she is presenting the discovery today at a meeting of International Congress of Coptic Studies in Rome.


The fragment, written in Coptic, the language of a group of early Christians in Egypt, has an unknown provenance, and its owner has opted to remain anonymous. Questions about the fragment abound, but scholars say it will nonetheless reignite several old debates: Was Jesus married? If so, was Mary Magdalene his wife? And did he have a female disciple? [Jesus Christ the Man: Does the Physical Evidence Hold Up?]


Scholars say these controversies date to the early centuries of Christianity, but they remain relevant today. In the Roman Catholic Church, for example, women and married men are barred from priesthood because of the model thought to have been set by Jesus. King has cautioned that the new discovery should not be taken as proof that Jesus was actually married. The text appears to have been written centuries after he lived, and all other early Christian literature is silent on the question of his marital status.


But the scrap of papyrus — the first known statement from antiquity that refers to Jesus speaking of a wife — provides evidence that there was an active discussion among early Christians about whether Jesus was celibate or married, and which path his followers should choose, King told the Times.


"This fragment suggests that some early Christians had a tradition that Jesus was married," King said. "There was, we already know, a controversy in the second century over whether Jesus was married, caught up with a debate about whether Christians should marry and have sex."


The significance of this fragment was known by scholars previously, and then forgotten. When its current owner acquired it in a batch of papyri in 1997 from its previous owner, a German, it came with a handwritten note. The note cited a now-deceased professor of Egyptology in Berlin as having called the fragment "the sole example" of a text in which Jesus claims a wife.


According to the Times, papyrologists and Coptic linguists who have studied the artifact thus far say they are convinced by its genuineness by the fading of the ink on the papyrus fibers and the traces of ink adhered to the bent fibers at the edges. The Coptic grammar, handwriting and ideas represented in the text would also have been nearly impossible to forge.


"It's hard to construct a scenario that is at all plausible in which somebody fakes something like this. The world is not really crawling with crooked papyrologists," Roger Bagnall, director of the Institute for the Study of the Ancient World, at New York University, told the New York Times.
Certain lines of the text resemble snippets from the Gospels of Thomas and Mary, both believed to have been written in the late second century and later translated into Coptic. King surmises that this fragment is also copied from a second-century Greek text.


Further study will be needed to work out the details, but the meaning of the words "my wife" is beyond question, King said. The text beyond "Jesus said to them, 'My wife …'" is cut off.


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A Harvard historian has identified a faded, fourth-century scrap of papyrus she calls "The Gospel of Jesus's Wife." One line of the torn fragment of text purportedly reads: "Jesus said to them, 'My wife …'" The following line states, "she will be able to be my disciple."


The finding was announced to the public today (Sept. 18) by Karen King, a historian of early Christianity, author of several books about new Gospel discoveries and the Hollis professor of divinity at Harvard Divinity School. King first examined the privately owned fragment in 2011, and has since been studying it with the help of a small group of scholars.


According to the New York Times, King and her collaborators have concluded that the business card-size fragment is not a forgery, and she is presenting the discovery today at a meeting of International Congress of Coptic Studies in Rome.


The fragment, written in Coptic, the language of a group of early Christians in Egypt, has an unknown provenance, and its owner has opted to remain anonymous. Questions about the fragment abound, but scholars say it will nonetheless reignite several old debates: Was Jesus married? If so, was Mary Magdalene his wife? And did he have a female disciple? [Jesus Christ the Man: Does the Physical Evidence Hold Up?]


Scholars say these controversies date to the early centuries of Christianity, but they remain relevant today. In the Roman Catholic Church, for example, women and married men are barred from priesthood because of the model thought to have been set by Jesus. King has cautioned that the new discovery should not be taken as proof that Jesus was actually married. The text appears to have been written centuries after he lived, and all other early Christian literature is silent on the question of his marital status.


But the scrap of papyrus — the first known statement from antiquity that refers to Jesus speaking of a wife — provides evidence that there was an active discussion among early Christians about whether Jesus was celibate or married, and which path his followers should choose, King told the Times.


"This fragment suggests that some early Christians had a tradition that Jesus was married," King said. "There was, we already know, a controversy in the second century over whether Jesus was married, caught up with a debate about whether Christians should marry and have sex."


The significance of this fragment was known by scholars previously, and then forgotten. When its current owner acquired it in a batch of papyri in 1997 from its previous owner, a German, it came with a handwritten note. The note cited a now-deceased professor of Egyptology in Berlin as having called the fragment "the sole example" of a text in which Jesus claims a wife.


According to the Times, papyrologists and Coptic linguists who have studied the artifact thus far say they are convinced by its genuineness by the fading of the ink on the papyrus fibers and the traces of ink adhered to the bent fibers at the edges. The Coptic grammar, handwriting and ideas represented in the text would also have been nearly impossible to forge.


"It's hard to construct a scenario that is at all plausible in which somebody fakes something like this. The world is not really crawling with crooked papyrologists," Roger Bagnall, director of the Institute for the Study of the Ancient World, at New York University, told the New York Times.
Certain lines of the text resemble snippets from the Gospels of Thomas and Mary, both believed to have been written in the late second century and later translated into Coptic. King surmises that this fragment is also copied from a second-century Greek text.


Further study will be needed to work out the details, but the meaning of the words "my wife" is beyond question, King said. The text beyond "Jesus said to them, 'My wife …'" is cut off.


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A few things have, or may have, a bearing on this. The article does not give the original so we cannot vouch for its accurate translation. If it translates simply into 'wife' in English then we must understand that the word, when first coined, did not mean spouse, nor did it mean that there was any longlasting connection with a man or anyone else. In old English the word 'wif' simply meant woman and there were similar words in Proto Germanic, Old Friesan, Dutch and others. There is also a possible connection with 'a veiled person' through P.Ger, *weip and *ghwibh, a proposed root that could mean pudenda. So 'Hey Jesus had a wife' is a pretty nonsensical statement, given the information to hand.
We should also ask what the Harvard professor's own agenda might have been. If she was/is a loony 'born again' then she definitely would have an anti traditionalist view whereas if she was the product of a convent she might have as much bias in the opposite direction.
However whether it is true or false matters not a jot unless, of course, your adopted name and title are Pope Benedict.
Of course if Jesus was married it rather destroys the assumption that he was a homosexual and it does little to support his supposed divinity.
Brownie points for the atheists.
 
A few things have, or may have, a bearing on this. The article does not give the original so we cannot vouch for its accurate translation. If it translates simply into 'wife' in English then we must understand that the word, when first coined, did not mean spouse, nor did it mean that there was any longlasting connection with a man or anyone else. In old English the word 'wif' simply meant woman and there were similar words in Proto Germanic, Old Friesan, Dutch and others. There is also a possible connection with 'a veiled person' through P.Ger, *weip and *ghwibh, a proposed root that could mean pudenda. So 'Hey Jesus had a wife' is a pretty nonsensical statement, given the information to hand.
We should also ask what the Harvard professor's own agenda might have been. If she was/is a loony 'born again' then she definitely would have an anti traditionalist view whereas if she was the product of a convent she might have as much bias in the opposite direction.
However whether it is true or false matters not a jot unless, of course, your adopted name and title are Pope Benedict.
Of course if Jesus was married it rather destroys the assumption that he was a homosexual and it does little to support his supposed divinity.
Brownie points for the atheists.

Who knowa, apart from PiMP?
 
A Harvard historian has identified a faded, fourth-century scrap of papyrus she calls "The Gospel of Jesus's Wife." One line of the torn fragment of text purportedly reads: "Jesus said to them, 'My wife …'" The following line states, "she will be able to be my disciple."


The finding was announced to the public today (Sept. 18) by Karen King, a historian of early Christianity, author of several books about new Gospel discoveries and the Hollis professor of divinity at Harvard Divinity School. King first examined the privately owned fragment in 2011, and has since been studying it with the help of a small group of scholars.


According to the New York Times, King and her collaborators have concluded that the business card-size fragment is not a forgery, and she is presenting the discovery today at a meeting of International Congress of Coptic Studies in Rome.


The fragment, written in Coptic, the language of a group of early Christians in Egypt, has an unknown provenance, and its owner has opted to remain anonymous. Questions about the fragment abound, but scholars say it will nonetheless reignite several old debates: Was Jesus married? If so, was Mary Magdalene his wife? And did he have a female disciple? [Jesus Christ the Man: Does the Physical Evidence Hold Up?]


Scholars say these controversies date to the early centuries of Christianity, but they remain relevant today. In the Roman Catholic Church, for example, women and married men are barred from priesthood because of the model thought to have been set by Jesus. King has cautioned that the new discovery should not be taken as proof that Jesus was actually married. The text appears to have been written centuries after he lived, and all other early Christian literature is silent on the question of his marital status.


But the scrap of papyrus — the first known statement from antiquity that refers to Jesus speaking of a wife — provides evidence that there was an active discussion among early Christians about whether Jesus was celibate or married, and which path his followers should choose, King told the Times.


"This fragment suggests that some early Christians had a tradition that Jesus was married," King said. "There was, we already know, a controversy in the second century over whether Jesus was married, caught up with a debate about whether Christians should marry and have sex."


The significance of this fragment was known by scholars previously, and then forgotten. When its current owner acquired it in a batch of papyri in 1997 from its previous owner, a German, it came with a handwritten note. The note cited a now-deceased professor of Egyptology in Berlin as having called the fragment "the sole example" of a text in which Jesus claims a wife.


According to the Times, papyrologists and Coptic linguists who have studied the artifact thus far say they are convinced by its genuineness by the fading of the ink on the papyrus fibers and the traces of ink adhered to the bent fibers at the edges. The Coptic grammar, handwriting and ideas represented in the text would also have been nearly impossible to forge.


"It's hard to construct a scenario that is at all plausible in which somebody fakes something like this. The world is not really crawling with crooked papyrologists," Roger Bagnall, director of the Institute for the Study of the Ancient World, at New York University, told the New York Times.
Certain lines of the text resemble snippets from the Gospels of Thomas and Mary, both believed to have been written in the late second century and later translated into Coptic. King surmises that this fragment is also copied from a second-century Greek text.


Further study will be needed to work out the details, but the meaning of the words "my wife" is beyond question, King said. The text beyond "Jesus said to them, 'My wife …'" is cut off.


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interesting, please keep us up to date on any more information

care to bet that the catholic church denounces it

also, celibacy of priests was established later to prevent a hereditary priesthood
 
A Harvard historian has identified a faded, fourth-century scrap of papyrus she calls "The Gospel of Jesus's Wife." One line of the torn fragment of text purportedly reads: "Jesus said to them, 'My wife …'" The following line states, "she will be able to be my disciple."


The finding was announced to the public today (Sept. 18) by Karen King, a historian of early Christianity, author of several books about new Gospel discoveries and the Hollis professor of divinity at Harvard Divinity School. King first examined the privately owned fragment in 2011, and has since been studying it with the help of a small group of scholars.


According to the New York Times, King and her collaborators have concluded that the business card-size fragment is not a forgery, and she is presenting the discovery today at a meeting of International Congress of Coptic Studies in Rome.


The fragment, written in Coptic, the language of a group of early Christians in Egypt, has an unknown provenance, and its owner has opted to remain anonymous. Questions about the fragment abound, but scholars say it will nonetheless reignite several old debates: Was Jesus married? If so, was Mary Magdalene his wife? And did he have a female disciple? [Jesus Christ the Man: Does the Physical Evidence Hold Up?]


Scholars say these controversies date to the early centuries of Christianity, but they remain relevant today. In the Roman Catholic Church, for example, women and married men are barred from priesthood because of the model thought to have been set by Jesus. King has cautioned that the new discovery should not be taken as proof that Jesus was actually married. The text appears to have been written centuries after he lived, and all other early Christian literature is silent on the question of his marital status.


But the scrap of papyrus — the first known statement from antiquity that refers to Jesus speaking of a wife — provides evidence that there was an active discussion among early Christians about whether Jesus was celibate or married, and which path his followers should choose, King told the Times.


"This fragment suggests that some early Christians had a tradition that Jesus was married," King said. "There was, we already know, a controversy in the second century over whether Jesus was married, caught up with a debate about whether Christians should marry and have sex."


The significance of this fragment was known by scholars previously, and then forgotten. When its current owner acquired it in a batch of papyri in 1997 from its previous owner, a German, it came with a handwritten note. The note cited a now-deceased professor of Egyptology in Berlin as having called the fragment "the sole example" of a text in which Jesus claims a wife.


According to the Times, papyrologists and Coptic linguists who have studied the artifact thus far say they are convinced by its genuineness by the fading of the ink on the papyrus fibers and the traces of ink adhered to the bent fibers at the edges. The Coptic grammar, handwriting and ideas represented in the text would also have been nearly impossible to forge.


"It's hard to construct a scenario that is at all plausible in which somebody fakes something like this. The world is not really crawling with crooked papyrologists," Roger Bagnall, director of the Institute for the Study of the Ancient World, at New York University, told the New York Times.
Certain lines of the text resemble snippets from the Gospels of Thomas and Mary, both believed to have been written in the late second century and later translated into Coptic. King surmises that this fragment is also copied from a second-century Greek text.


Further study will be needed to work out the details, but the meaning of the words "my wife" is beyond question, King said. The text beyond "Jesus said to them, 'My wife …'" is cut off.


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interesting, please keep us up to date on any more information

care to bet that the catholic church denounces it

also, celibacy of priests was established later to prevent a hereditary priesthood
 
interesting, please keep us up to date on any more information

care to bet that the catholic church denounces it

also, celibacy of priests was established later to prevent a hereditary priesthood

Also... ever wonder what happened to the teachings of the other disciples/apostles? Did only 2 of the original 12 have their encounters with Christ retold? Where is the gospel of Peter? The Gospel of Judas (yes, there is one)... The Gospel of Phillip and the Gospel of Thomas are also out there. As well as the gospel of Mary Magdalene. But we do not see these published today by Christians... why?
 
Jesus was a man .. and pretty much all that is known of him to most is from birth to 12 years old .. and from age 30 to 33.

The missing years are anybody's guess, though it is said that he traveled to the east.
 
Also... ever wonder what happened to the teachings of the other disciples/apostles? Did only 2 of the original 12 have their encounters with Christ retold? Where is the gospel of Peter? The Gospel of Judas (yes, there is one)... The Gospel of Phillip and the Gospel of Thomas are also out there. As well as the gospel of Mary Magdalene. But we do not see these published today by Christians... why?

Several of the Gospels were thrown out by the Council of Nicea. That was a handy control method by the early church.
 
Several of the Gospels were thrown out by the Council of Nicea. That was a handy control method by the early church.

I know... some parts were deemed 'heretical' which is comical... the Church was like 'wow, we like this one, its a keeper, but 'those' words from Christ, nah... we will reject them'
 
interesting, please keep us up to date on any more information

care to bet that the catholic church denounces it

also, celibacy of priests was established later to prevent a hereditary priesthood
Yea I would. Who do you think preserved the artifact and made it available to scholars? That's right, the Vatican. Also, the phrase that is translated only states the Jesus said something about a wife. He may not neccessarily meant "his wife" as the phrase is rather ambiguous.
 
Also... ever wonder what happened to the teachings of the other disciples/apostles? Did only 2 of the original 12 have their encounters with Christ retold? Where is the gospel of Peter? The Gospel of Judas (yes, there is one)... The Gospel of Phillip and the Gospel of Thomas are also out there. As well as the gospel of Mary Magdalene. But we do not see these published today by Christians... why?
Lack of sales?
 
Also... ever wonder what happened to the teachings of the other disciples/apostles? Did only 2 of the original 12 have their encounters with Christ retold? Where is the gospel of Peter? The Gospel of Judas (yes, there is one)... The Gospel of Phillip and the Gospel of Thomas are also out there. As well as the gospel of Mary Magdalene. But we do not see these published today by Christians... why?

they may be found in the apocrypha

as has been posted before, the church picked and chose what would and would not be included in the bible

also, mary magdalene was not a whore in the original
 
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Is there any proof anywhere that Jesus was NOT married or that he was against getting married? Or that he was against Sex?

He did say that in some cases it was better not to be in Matthew 19, repeated in other scriptures such as Corinthians 7... if you can accept that life it is better for you not to marry.
 
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