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Ind. parents told drop disabled kids at shelters
10/27/2010 6:44:00 PM

Associated Press/AP Online
By KEN KUSMER INDIANAPOLIS - Indiana's budget crunch has become so severe that some state workers have suggested leaving severely disabled people at homeless shelters if they can't be cared for at home, parents and advocates said.
They said workers at Indiana's Bureau of Developmental Disabilities Services have told parents that's one option they have when families can no longer care for children at home and haven't received Medicaid waivers that pay for services that support disabled people living independently.
Marcus Barlow, a spokesman for the Family and Social Services Administration, the umbrella agency that includes the bureau, said suggesting homeless shelters is not the agency's policy and workers who did so would be disciplined.
However, Becky Holladay of Battle Ground, Ind., said that's exactly what happened to her when she called to ask about the waiver she's seeking for her 22-year-old son, Cameron Dunn, who has epilepsy, autism and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.
Holladay, a school nurse, said she and her husband would go bankrupt trying to pay for services themselves, so Cameron spends most days sitting in his stepfather's truck while he works as a municipal employee.
"It's heart-wrenching as a parent to watch it. We are people and they are people," Holladay said, referring to her son and others with disabilities. "They have lives that are worth something."
There have been no confirmed cases of families dumping severely disabled people at homeless shelters because Indiana wouldn't provide the care needed.
But some families have been on waiting lists for waivers for 10 years. The lists contained more than 20,000 names last month, and one advocacy group predicted they will only grow longer because Gov. Mitch Daniels ordered budget cuts that have eliminated 2,000 waiver slots since July.
Budget cuts also have resulted in the state moving foster children with disabilities to a lower cost program that doesn't provide services for special needs and eliminating a grocery benefit for hundreds of developmentally disabled adults.
Kim Dodson, associate executive director of The Arc of Indiana, said her group has received reports of state workers in several of BDDS's eight regional offices telling families to take disabled adults to homeless shelters. She speculated that the suggestion resulted from frustration among BDDS staff as families become more outspoken about the effects of state cuts.
"It is something we are hearing from all over the state, that families are being told this is an alternative for them," Dodson said. "A homeless shelter would never be able to serve these people."
State lawmakers said they also have received reports from several people who were told they could always abandon their adult children at homeless shelters.
Rep. Suzanne Crouch, R-Evansville, said she found it "deplorable that people are being told to go to a homeless shelter."
Leaders of several agencies serving homeless people across Indiana could not be reached for comment after business hours Wednesday.
Some parents said homeless shelters have also been suggested - or threatened - as an option by private care providers.
Daunna Minnich of Bloomington said Indiana Department of Education funding for residential treatment for her 18-year-old daughter, Sabrina, is due to run out Sunday. She said officials at Damar Services Inc. of Indianapolis told her during a meeting that unless she took Sabrina home with her, the agency would drop the teen off at a homeless shelter.
Sabrina, who's bipolar and has anxiety attacks, has attempted suicide, run away during home visits and threatened her older sister, Minnich said. Bringing Sabrina home isn't a viable option, but the two group home placements BDDS offered weren't appropriate, she said.
"I don't want to see the state of Indiana hasten her demise by putting her in a one-size-fits-all solution that will drive her to desperate acts," Minnich said.
Jim Dalton, Damar's chief operating officer, said he could not comment directly on any specific case but his nonprofit would never leave a client at a homeless shelter - even though it is caring for some for free after they got too old for school-funded services and haven't yet been granted Medicaid waivers.
"We're talking about youth that absolutely require services, and no one is willing to fund them anymore," Dalton said.
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Not having time or interest to read of the troubles and tribulations of parish pump politics above I just want to respond to the thread title.
Once you were a great nation. Once you were the people we all followed. We all wanted American cars - can you believe that? -we wanted American fashion - when was the last time you managed to set a trend?
We didn't mind whether your president was a democrat or a republican we just saw your country as the land of opportunity. In the 50s we wanted to be like Elvis, we wanted white wall tyres on cars we didnt have.
Then ... Vietnam. OK it was a long way away. But those of us who had even the tiniest bit of humanity could see that the American gung ho spirit was wrong.
Then conflict after conflict. A total disregard for anyone else on the planet. Nixon - how could such an obviously dishonest man win hearts and minds? Reagun, and the British press entered into their lampooning stride. Daddy Bush - now we no longer wanted your cars. We had our own pop stars and they were bigger than yours. We had our own fashion and you were copying us. Coke, KFC, MacDog. Someone said 'American Imperialism' and we started to dislike the thing you were doing.
2010. America? Who are they? We are not really bothered. We make our money elsewhere. We have Europe - sort of - but we can see now that once great nation of cowboy films and Marylyn Monroe and Fats Domino fading out with the brash trash Hollywood credits rolling.
Produced by: 20C hard work
Directed by: Some of the worst presidents anywhere.
Starring: The American people.
Totally screwed by: Right wing childish 'I want it now' braindeads.
Rating? You tell me.
 
this is what happens when people with no clue decide that they can demand better care for people with disabilities, then worry about consequences later on.
 
this is what happens when people with no clue decide that they can demand better care for people with disabilities, then worry about consequences later on.

lets abort disabled people, then we will not have to care for them - also, if not caught in the womb, then perform retroactive birth control...just kill them

people at both ends of the disabled and very bright - people that do not fit in are dumped on
 
lets abort disabled people, then we will not have to care for them - also, if not caught in the womb, then perform retroactive birth control...just kill them

people at both ends of the disabled and very bright - people that do not fit in are dumped on
Recently I've actually changed my position on abortion to closely coincide with yours. Yes, abortions should be legal up to the moment of birth and then for a year or so after that. You see, it is liberal women that kill their babies and if they don't, would undoubtedly raise them to be, well, liberals. And society is far better off with fewer of them.
 
Now, what's it going to take for people to stand up for liberty?

Look what's happening today.

We have a government who is constantly lying to us now without any fear.

I mean, they just look at us and go, "These are not the droids you're looking for." It's amazing, like that Jedi mind trick isn't working on me.

Why is it working on everyone else?

It's the fault of both Democrats and Republicans when it comes to things like inflation.

If I asked, hey, how is that inflation thing going?

If you listen to the Republicans or the Democrats, or you listen to anybody in the media, they will tell you, oh, please!
 
Progressives want to fundamentally transform America, their words, not mine.

They don't believe in a free market citizen.

They're trying to seize this moment and grab as much power and control as they possibly can.

So, now I say stuff like this and my gosh, you run, you go get your gun, quick!

No, no.

No.

There are some people on the left and apparently some people on the right that think violence would be the answer.

Well, I'm here to tell you, they are 100 percent wrong.
 
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