Is there ZERO risk of terrorists getting into the USA posing as refugees?

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It has never happened before and the GOP is obviously making a mountain out of a molehill. We have never put a halt do allowing refugees into the country. What are they thinking? It is against our values. No President has EVER done this before.

Except................................This should make the leftardiots heads explode. Can't wait to hear the spin

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qa...terrorists-country-refugees/story?id=20931131


Obama's White House allowed Al Queda terrorists into the country posing as refugees. Ain't that something? How did the Hillary Clinton State Department respond?

The discovery in 2009 of two al Qaeda-Iraq terrorists living as refugees in Bowling Green, Kentucky -- who later admitted in court that they'd attacked U.S. soldiers in Iraq -- prompted the bureau to assign hundreds of specialists to an around-the-clock effort aimed at checking its archive of 100,000 improvised explosive devices collected in the war zones, known as IEDs, for other suspected terrorists' fingerprints.

"We are currently supporting dozens of current counter-terrorism investigations like that," FBI Agent Gregory Carl, director of the Terrorist Explosive Device Analytical Center (TEDAC), said in an ABC News interview to be broadcast tonight on ABC News' "World News with Diane Sawyer" and "Nightline".

"I wouldn't be surprised if there were many more than that," said House Committee on Homeland Security Chairman Michael McCaul. "And these are trained terrorists in the art of bombmaking that are inside the United States; and quite frankly, from a homeland security perspective, that really concerns me."

As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets. One Iraqi who had aided American troops was assassinated before his refugee application could be processed, because of the immigration delays, two U.S. officials said. In 2011, fewer than 10,000 Iraqis were resettled as refugees in the U.S., half the number from the year before, State Department statistics show.

Suspect in Kentucky Discovered to Have Insurgent Past

An intelligence tip initially led the FBI to Waad Ramadan Alwan, 32, in 2009. The Iraqi had claimed to be a refugee who faced persecution back home -- a story that shattered when the FBI found his fingerprints on a cordless phone base that U.S. soldiers dug up in a gravel pile south of Bayji, Iraq on Sept. 1, 2005. The phone base had been wired to unexploded bombs buried in a nearby road.

An ABC News investigation of the flawed U.S. refugee screening system, which was overhauled two years ago, showed that Alwan was mistakenly allowed into the U.S. and resettled in the leafy southern town of Bowling Green, Kentucky, a city of 60,000 which is home to Western Kentucky University and near the Army's Fort Knox and Fort Campbell. Alwan and another Iraqi refugee, Mohanad Shareef Hammadi, 26, were resettled in Bowling Green even though both had been detained during the war by Iraqi authorities, according to federal prosecutors.

Most of the more than 70,000 Iraqi war refugees in the U.S. are law-abiding immigrants eager to start a new life in America, state and federal officials say.

But the FBI discovered that Alwan had been arrested in Kirkuk, Iraq, in 2006 and confessed on video made of his interrogation then that he was an insurgent, according to the U.S. military and FBI, which obtained the tape a year into their Kentucky probe. In 2007, Alwan went through a border crossing to Syria and his fingerprints were entered into a biometric database maintained by U.S. military intelligence in Iraq, a Directorate of National Intelligence official said. Another U.S. official insisted that fingerprints of Iraqis were routinely collected and that Alwan's fingerprint file was not associated with the insurgency.

"How do they get into our community?"
In 2009 Alwan applied as a refugee and was allowed to move to Bowling Green, where he quit a job he briefly held and moved into public housing on Gordon Ave., across the street from a school bus stop, and collected public assistance payouts, federal officials told ABC News.

"How do you have somebody that we now know was a known actor in terrorism overseas, how does that person get into the United States? How do they get into our community?" wondered Bowling Green Police Chief Doug Hawkins, whose department assisted the FBI.

Department of Homeland Security spokesperson Peter Boogaard said in a statement that the U.S. government "continually improves and expands its procedures for vetting immigrants, refugees and visa applicants, and today [the] vetting process considers a far broader range of information than it did in past years."

"Our procedures continue to check applicants' names and fingerprints against records of individuals known to be security threats, including the terrorist watchlist, or of law enforcement concern... These checks are vital to advancing the U.S. government's twin goal of protecting the world's most vulnerable persons while ensuring U.S. national security and public safety," the statement said.

Last year, a Department of Homeland Security senior intelligence official testified in a House hearing that Alwan and Hammadi's names and fingerprints were checked by the FBI, DHS and the Defense Department during the vetting process in 2009 and "came in clean."

After the FBI received the intelligence tip later that year, a sting operation in Kentucky was mounted to bait Alwan with a scheme hatched by an undercover operative recruited by the FBI, who offered Alwan the opportunity to ship heavy arms to al Qaeda in Iraq. The FBI wanted to know if Alwan was part of a local terror cell -- a fear that grew when he tapped a relative also living in Bowling Green, Hammadi, to help out.

The FBI secretly taped Alwan bragging to the informant that he'd built a dozen or more bombs in Iraq and used a sniper rifle to kill American soldiers in the Bayji area north of Baghdad.

"He said that he had them 'for lunch and dinner,'" recalled FBI Louisville Supervisory Special Agent Tim Beam, "meaning that he had killed them."

Alwan even sketched out IED designs, which the FBI provided to ABC News, that U.S. bomb experts had quickly determined clearly demonstrated his expertise.

'Needle in a Haystack' Fingerprint Match Found on Iraq Bomb Parts, White House Briefed

The case drew attention at the highest levels of government, FBI officials told ABC News, when TEDAC forensic investigators tasked with finding IEDs from Bayji dating back to 2005 pulled 170 case boxes and, incredibly, found several of Alwan's fingerprints on a Senao-brand remote cordless base station. A U.S. military Significant Action report on Sept. 1, 2005 said the remote-controlled trigger had been attached to "three homemade-explosive artillery rounds concealed by gravel with protruding wires."

"There were two fingerprints, developed on the top of the base station," Katie Suchma, an FBI supervisory physical scientist at TEDAC who helped locate the evidence, told ABC News at the center's IED examination lab. "The whole team was ecstatic because it was like finding a needle in a haystack."

"This was the type of bomb he's talking about when he drew those pictures," added FBI electronics expert Stephen Mallow.

Word was sent back to the FBI in Louisville.

"It was a surreal moment, it was a real game changer, so to speak, for the case," FBI agent Beam told ABC News. "Now you have solidified proof that he was involved in actual attacks against U.S. soldiers."

Worse, prosecutors later revealed at Hammadi's sentencing hearing that he and Alwan had been caught on an FBI surveillance tape talking about using a bomb to assassinate an Army captain they'd known in Bayji, who was now back home – and to possibly attack other homeland targets.

"Many things should take place and it should be huge," Hammadi told Alwan in an FBI-recorded conversation, which a prosecutor read at Hammadi's sentencing last year.

Then-FBI Director Robert Mueller briefed President Obama in early 2011 as agents and Louisville federal prosecutors weighed whether to arrest Alwan and Hammadi or continue arranging phony arms shipments to Iraq that the pair could assist with, consisting of machine guns, explosives and even Stinger missiles the FBI had secretly rendered inoperable and which never left the U.S.

But agents soon determined there were no other co-conspirators. An FBI SWAT team collared the terrorists in a truck south of Bowling Green in late May 2011, only weeks after al Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden was killed in Pakistan and Obama had visited nearby Fort Campbell to thank the SEALs and Army Nightstalker pilots for their successful mission. The Kentucky al Qaeda case drew little attention as the nation celebrated Bin Laden's death.
 
There is never zero risk of anything, surely? At this moment cheese mites may be destroying your testicles, but I trust that it is not very likely
 
There is never zero risk of anything, surely? At this moment cheese mites may be destroying your testicles, but I trust that it is not very likely

So how many terrorists is an acceptable number to allow in. Because that is what you appear to be saying.
 
It's not a question of if terrorists get in but how many will get in.

And yes, one of our national values or traditions is liberal immigration. The Statue of Liberty and all that warm and fuzzy stuff. But that's a value and not a constitutional requirement. The constitutional requirement is for the government to protect its citizens.

In fact, that is the first role of government.
 
It should be pointed out that not only did terrorists get in through Obama's screening, but that Obama and Hillary halted refugees coming in for a time being. So despite the caterwauling and hand wringing by Obama and his loyal minions on JPP, Obama himself did the very thing he is now criticizing.

Hypocrisy much?
 
Is it possible that out of the 74+ million tourists entering the country every year, one could be a terrorist?

Time to build a concrete wall around the entire United States. Can't be too careful.
 
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LOL

Come on, after they go through Obama's tough screening process how could you not feel safer.
 
Is it possible that out of the 74+ million tourists entering the country every year, one could be a terrorist?

Time to build a concrete wall around the entire United States. Can't be too careful.

That's how all of them have gotten in in the past, not as refugees but as students, tourists and businessmen. Do we stop issuing those VISA's?
 
Lol. When you've got nuthin', default to the absurd.

You obviously didn't read the article, but I understand you need more voters because you keep aborting yours.

Also, your signature is false. You refused to debate remember? You weren't interested in the tax code? Maybe you forgot? I know you are a liberal and think that you should get a participation trophy, but it doesn't work that way in the real world sweety.

You chickened out. You lost
 
I'm torn on this topic. A big part of me is telling myself that these people need help and if I were in their shoes I'd be praying for help too, but another part of me has a lot of hesitation since many of the refugees are coming from an area that ISIS has a major existence in and so could seemingly very easily pretend to be a refugee in need of help. Is the risk of that worth the reward of saving thousands of people. My heart says yes and my head says no. I don't know.
 
You obviously didn't read the article, but I understand you need more voters because you keep aborting yours.

Also, your signature is false. You refused to debate remember? You weren't interested in the tax code? Maybe you forgot? I know you are a liberal and think that you should get a participation trophy, but it doesn't work that way in the real world sweety.

You chickened out. You lost

Did you forget that you called a halt to our abortion debate? That means you defaulted, i.e. lost.
 
I'm torn on this topic. A big part of me is telling myself that these people need help and if I were in their shoes I'd be praying for help too, but another part of me has a lot of hesitation since many of the refugees are coming from an area that ISIS has a major existence in and so could seemingly very easily pretend to be a refugee in need of help. Is the risk of that worth the reward of saving thousands of people. My heart says yes and my head says no. I don't know.

Do you like M & M's? (Plain or peanut, either one.)

What if I had a fresh bowl of 10,000 of M & M's but I poisoned 10 of them.

And you KNEW that I poisoned 10 of them.

Would you eat from that bowl of M & M's?
 
Do you like M & M's? (Plain or peanut, either one.)

What if I had a fresh bowl of 10,000 of them but I poisoned 10 of them.

Would you eat from that bowl of M & M's?

If it meant legitimately saving 9990 people I can't say that I wouldn't take that sort of chance to be honest with you. M&ms no, but people, maybe.
 
That's how all of them have gotten in in the past, not as refugees but as students, tourists and businessmen. Do we stop issuing those VISA's?

Apples and oranges. The Syrian refugees/immigrants/terrorists will be coming from an ISIS-rich environment. People are granted Visas from all over.
 
Did you forget that you called a halt to our abortion debate? That means you defaulted, i.e. lost.

I debated you about abortion. Don't lie. I halted it because at a certain point we had both made our points what more could be added? I wasn't changing your mind and you weren't changing mine. If you are counting that, then you are one desperate broad. Make no mistake, unlike you, I did not shy away from the debate.

But, if your fragile ego needs to copy me then so be it sweety. I don't mind people copying what I do.
 
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