Is the Russian Military a Paper Tiger?

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It sure looks like it, with their performance in Ukraine?!! Russian in a conventional war against NATO would lose badly?!!

At a critical juncture in the war in Ukraine, logistical miscalculations and poor planning have revealed key weaknesses in Putin’s armed forces.


This week, the Russian Foreign Minister, Sergey Lavrov, announced the onset of what he called a new phase in his country’s war on Ukraine, which appears to consist of a focus on Ukraine’s east and a more gradual speed of attack than that of the failed strikes of late February and early March. Lavrov cast this tactical shift as a natural outgrowth of Russia’s so-called special military operation, but it has only highlighted the country’s previous miscalculations.

To better understand what went wrong with the Russian approach, I called Joel Rayburn, a retired Army colonel and former U.S. special envoy for Syria, who is now a fellow at New America, a think tank in Washington, D.C. During our conversation, which has been edited for length and clarity, we discussed what Rayburn learned about the Russian military from his involvement in Syria policy, the biggest mistakes the Russians have made in Ukraine, and whether the failures stem from poor decision-making or corruption.

They have a lot of systemic and institutional weaknesses that had been masked because they had not operated on this scale in a really visible way, at least not for quite a while. You’d have to go back to their invasion of Georgia, in 2008, to find something approaching the scale that they’re operating at now. And that one didn’t go well.

They were showing the same kind of problems back then: this disunity of command; logistical weaknesses; poorly trained, poorly motivated, poorly led troops; very poor quality of officer corps; very poor quality of campaign design and ability to plan. They also have very poor integration within and among the armed services, including the synchronization of air and ground operations.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/is-the-russian-military-a-paper-tiger

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Russia would have loved a second term for Trump, seeing that Trump would have given everything to Russia on a silver platter.
 
No, if they were to release their full potential the war would be over in hours, but so would the geographical entity known as the Ukraine. I believe both Napoleon and Hitler found out what happens when Russians have their back against the wall
 
No, if they were to release their full potential the war would be over in hours, but so would the geographical entity known as the Ukraine. I believe both Napoleon and Hitler found out what happens when Russians have their back against the wall

Putin is dipping into stocks of 1960s era Warsaw Pact T62 tanks and Cold War era rockets, so the Russian military has been significantly degraded.

Putin is trying to win this "special operation" with a relatively small peacetime Russian army.

He is reticent to order a full national mobilization for war, presumably because he thinks Russian public opinion would turn against him.

The Russians are fierce fighters when fighting a defensive war on their own soil against invaders.

But they never have been particularly skilled at initiating offensive wars on foreign soil.
 
It sure looks like it, with their performance in Ukraine?!! Russian in a conventional war against NATO would lose badly?!!

At a critical juncture in the war in Ukraine, logistical miscalculations and poor planning have revealed key weaknesses in Putin’s armed forces.


This week, the Russian Foreign Minister, Sergey Lavrov, announced the onset of what he called a new phase in his country’s war on Ukraine, which appears to consist of a focus on Ukraine’s east and a more gradual speed of attack than that of the failed strikes of late February and early March. Lavrov cast this tactical shift as a natural outgrowth of Russia’s so-called special military operation, but it has only highlighted the country’s previous miscalculations.

To better understand what went wrong with the Russian approach, I called Joel Rayburn, a retired Army colonel and former U.S. special envoy for Syria, who is now a fellow at New America, a think tank in Washington, D.C. During our conversation, which has been edited for length and clarity, we discussed what Rayburn learned about the Russian military from his involvement in Syria policy, the biggest mistakes the Russians have made in Ukraine, and whether the failures stem from poor decision-making or corruption.

They have a lot of systemic and institutional weaknesses that had been masked because they had not operated on this scale in a really visible way, at least not for quite a while. You’d have to go back to their invasion of Georgia, in 2008, to find something approaching the scale that they’re operating at now. And that one didn’t go well.

They were showing the same kind of problems back then: this disunity of command; logistical weaknesses; poorly trained, poorly motivated, poorly led troops; very poor quality of officer corps; very poor quality of campaign design and ability to plan. They also have very poor integration within and among the armed services, including the synchronization of air and ground operations.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/is-the-russian-military-a-paper-tiger

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The paper tiger has real teeth called nukes.
 
No, if they were to release their full potential the war would be over in hours, but so would the geographical entity known as the Ukraine. I believe both Napoleon and Hitler found out what happens when Russians have their back against the wall

Napoleon and Hitler invaded Russia proper, got caught in the Russian winter too?!! No one has invaded Russia, and Ukraine is fighting for their existence and freedom and as long they receive western weaponry they can hold their own and maybe win the war too?!!
 
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