Is the apocalyptic end about to come to daesh aka isil???

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Bill

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ISTANBUL/BEIRUT (Reuters) - Syrian rebels backed by Turkey and a U.S.-led coalition are closing in on the Islamic State-held village of Dabiq, the site of an apocalyptic prophesy central to the militant group's ideology.

Free Syrian Army (FSA) rebel groups have been pushing southwards into Islamic State's territory in an operation backed by Turkey since Aug. 24, and have taken villages near Dabiq in recent days. A rebel leader said the plan was to reach Dabiq within 48 hours, but cautioned Islamic State had heavily mined the surrounding area, a sign of its importance to the group.

Although Dabiq, a village in relatively flat countryside northeast of Aleppo, holds little strategic value, it is seen by Islamic State as the place where a final battle will take place between Muslims and infidels, heralding Doomsday.

The group has named its online English-language magazine Dabiq and in April and May sent about 800 fighters there to defend it against advances by the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said on Monday.

"If matters proceed as planned, within 48 hours we will be in Dabiq," Ahmed Osman, commander of the Sultan Murad FSA group, said in a voice recording sent to Reuters.

However, Islamic State has heavily mined the area, making progress around Turkman Bareh slower than in other areas, said Osman, adding that 15 deaths among insurgent ranks in the past 24 hours were caused by mines and mortar fire.

The U.S.-led coalition against Islamic State is actively supporting the rebels as they advance "to within a few kilometres of (its) weakening stronghold" of Dabiq, Brett McGurk, Washington's special envoy for the coalition, said in a Tweet.

Islamic State has exploited the five-year-old Syrian civil war to seize swathes of territory.

Washington believes taking Dabiq could strike at Islamic State morale as it prepares to fend off expected offensives against Iraq's Mosul and Syria's Raqqa, the largest cities held by the jihadists, officials from a coalition country said.

Turkish warplanes hit Islamic State targets in the areas of Dabiq, Akhtarin and Turkman Bareh, destroying nine buildings including a command post, gun positions and an ammunition depot, a statement by Turkey's military said on Monday.

The latest fighting marks an escalation since Turkish troops crossed the border into Syria on Aug. 24 to back opposition fighters battling Islamic State in an operation Ankara says is aimed at removing the border threat the jihadists pose.

Nearly a dozen air strikes by the U.S.-backed coalition killed 13 militants, while the Turkish army said it also fired on Islamic State from inside Turkey after the jihadists used rockets to target its border town of Kilis.

(Reporting by Orhan Coskun, Tom Perry, Ayla Jean Yackley and Daren Butler; Writing by Angus McDowall; Editing by Dominic Evans)
 
Bill said:
What is the apocalyptic prophecy?? Do you know?? First I heard of it..
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you know what it is...here's a quick review for you.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/muslim-views-of-the-apocalypse_n_2635839.html
Muslim and Christian views of the Apocalypse are remarkably similar, albeit with a different ending.

As in the Bible’s Book of Revelation, Islamic tradition speaks of signs — unnatural disasters, wars and moral decay — that will portend the Last Days. And like Christians, many Muslims believe that Jesus, whom they call Isa, will return to defeat the Antichrist.

Contemporary Muslim apocalyptists have even borrowed from their Christian counterparts, such as Hal Lindsay, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, to discern the dates of the Antichrist’s arrival, said David Cook, an expert on Islamic eschatology and associate professor at Rice University.

“There are Muslim apocalyptic readings of the book of Daniel, Ezekiel and Revelation,” says Cook. “The only difference is the ‘good guys’ are Muslims, not Christians.”

The Muslim Jesus destroys the cross and the swine, symbols of Christian innovations, and converts Christians to Islam, said Abdulaziz Sachedina, a professor of Islamic studies at the University of Virginia. Whether he does so violently or not is a matter of debate.

In Islamic tradition, Jesus is joined by a figure named the Mahdi, who helps subdue Satan and rid the world of corruption and injustice.

Some Muslims don’t like the idea of Jesus playing the messianic hero, and have thus assigned a larger role to the Mahdi, said Cook. That belief is strong among Shiites, particularly the “Twelvers” in Iran, where President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has often spoke of the Mahdi’s return.

Twelvers believe that the Mahdi is the 12th imam — hence their name — a descendant of Prophet Muhammad who has been hidden since the 9th century.

In addition to Iran, faith in the Mahdi’s imminent arrival is widespread in Afghanistan, Iraq, Turkey and Tunisia, according to a 2012 Pew Research center poll.
 
tsuke said:
last i heard they retook mosul.
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no. they are working on ring cities/villages . They do have an airport nearbye.
Iraq and Iran will drive up from the south, and the Kurds will stop retreat by ISIS.

The problem is all roads in ,and including Mosul are heavily mined
 
anatta said:
you know what it is...here's a quick review for you.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/muslim-views-of-the-apocalypse_n_2635839.html
Muslim and Christian views of the Apocalypse are remarkably similar, albeit with a different ending.

As in the Bible’s Book of Revelation, Islamic tradition speaks of signs — unnatural disasters, wars and moral decay — that will portend the Last Days. And like Christians, many Muslims believe that Jesus, whom they call Isa, will return to defeat the Antichrist.

Contemporary Muslim apocalyptists have even borrowed from their Christian counterparts, such as Hal Lindsay, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, to discern the dates of the Antichrist’s arrival, said David Cook, an expert on Islamic eschatology and associate professor at Rice University.

“There are Muslim apocalyptic readings of the book of Daniel, Ezekiel and Revelation,” says Cook. “The only difference is the ‘good guys’ are Muslims, not Christians.”

The Muslim Jesus destroys the cross and the swine, symbols of Christian innovations, and converts Christians to Islam, said Abdulaziz Sachedina, a professor of Islamic studies at the University of Virginia. Whether he does so violently or not is a matter of debate.

In Islamic tradition, Jesus is joined by a figure named the Mahdi, who helps subdue Satan and rid the world of corruption and injustice.

Some Muslims don’t like the idea of Jesus playing the messianic hero, and have thus assigned a larger role to the Mahdi, said Cook. That belief is strong among Shiites, particularly the “Twelvers” in Iran, where President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has often spoke of the Mahdi’s return.

Twelvers believe that the Mahdi is the 12th imam — hence their name — a descendant of Prophet Muhammad who has been hidden since the 9th century.

In addition to Iran, faith in the Mahdi’s imminent arrival is widespread in Afghanistan, Iraq, Turkey and Tunisia, according to a 2012 Pew Research center poll.
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Interesting... Have you heard why this particular city/place is so important to these heretics/wackOs/assholes
 
anatta said:
no. they are working on ring cities/villages . They do have an airport nearbye.
Iraq and Iran will drive up from the south, and the Kurds will stop retreat by ISIS.

The problem is all roads in ,and including Mosul are heavily mined
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Should that really be a problem for the worlds lone superPwer & the Turks??
 
‘Out of question’: Erdogan rules out Turkish troop withdrawal from Iraq

the withdrawal of Turkish troops from Iraq is out of question, Turkey’s president Recep Tayyip Erdogan said, promising to “cooperate” on the issue with the US-led anti-ISIS coalition. Baghdad has condemned the “invasion” as a breach of international law.

“Our servicemen went to Iraq as instructors, their mission is limited to training,” Erdogan claimed during a news conference in the Turkish capital, Ankara.

Last week, Turkey deployed about 150 troops and 25 tanks to a base in Iraq’s Nineveh province, without bothering to get permission from Baghdad. Ankara argued that its soldiers were sent to northern Iraq after a threat from Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) to Turkish military instructors training anti-terrorist forces in the area.

Baghdad condemned the move saying it had not asked for the help of Turkish forces and did not authorize the new deployment, calling it a violation of the country’s sovereignty.

Razzaq Mihebis, an MP from the Iraqi Badr bloc,told RT. Turkey’s ambassador to Iraq was also summoned to the parliament on Thursday, he added.

“Objections were expressed to him over such actions, with the ambassador also [being] handed a demand ... [for] the immediate withdrawal of Turkish troops from the territory of Iraq,” Mihebis said.

The MP also commented on Erdogan’s previous claims to Al Jazeera that Turkish troops were in Iraq at the request of the country’s prime-minister, Haider al-Abadi.

“It’s a lie. This statement has nothing to do with reality … the Turkish troops have entered Iraq as invaders without a request from Iraqi government and without its permission,” he said.

Mihebis also confirmed media reports of Turkish airstrikes targeting the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) forces in northern Iraq on Wednesday. He called the bombings “a new violation of Iraq’s sovereignty and of international law by Turkey.”
“It is out of the question, at present, that Turkey will pull out its military from Iraq,” he stressed.
https://www.rt.com/news/325539-iraq-turkey-invasion-erdogan/
 
Bill said:
Interesting... Have you heard why this particular city/place is so important to these heretics/wackOs/assholes
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mecca mosul baghdad basically any center of power of the old caliphates from the seljuks or abbadids down are important to them.

People do need to be reminded that at one point the muslims WERE about to take over the known world. Spain had already fallen and Charles Martel was heavily outnumbered. Since they want to recreate that time anything related to it has symbolic value.

Also population centre etc etc.
 
Bill said:
Interesting... Have you heard why this particular city/place is so important to these heretics/wackOs/assholes
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The georgaphics for Dabiq. Some of these apocalyptic places are name specific -other are locations of foretold events
one reading of Islamic tradition (hadith), sees Dabiq in Syria as the place where the apocalypse will happen
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tsuke said:
mecca mosul baghdad basically any center of power of the old caliphates from the seljuks or abbadids down are important to them.

People do need to be reminded that at one point the muslims WERE about to take over the known world. Spain had already fallen and Charles Martel was heavily outnumbered. Since they want to recreate that time anything related to it has symbolic value.

Also population centre etc etc.
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Yes, let's dredge up things from a millennium ago as necessary to inflame islamhobic sentiment.

Let me remind you that less than a century ago Christians were about to take over the entire actual world. The only Muslim countries in the world that have not experienced rule by Christian imperialists are Iran and Turkey. And not by accident, because they fought bitterly for their independence.
 
anatta said:
The georgaphics for Dabiq. Some of these apocalyptic places are name specific -other are locations of foretold events
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ThnX, I will have to do some digging as I find that place odd, I never heard of it before....
 
tsuke said:
mecca mosul baghdad basically any center of power of the old caliphates from the seljuks or abbadids down are important to them.

People do need to be reminded that at one point the muslims WERE about to take over the known world. Spain had already fallen and Charles Martel was heavily outnumbered. Since they want to recreate that time anything related to it has symbolic value.

Also population centre etc etc.
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ThnX, yes but why this nondescript "village"...??
 
The Prophet Muhammad is believed to have said that "the last hour will not come" until Muslims vanquish the Romans at "Dabiq or Al-A'maq" - both in the Syria-Turkey border region - on their way to conquer Constantinople (modern-day Istanbul).

many of IS films have been signed off with an image of an IS fighter walking slowly across a landscape carrying a large black banner accompanied by an audio clip from the former leader of the group, Abu-Mus'ab al-Zarqawi, mentioning Dabiq.

Al-Zarqawi, who was killed in a US air strike in Iraq back in 2006, is heard to say: "The spark has been lit here in Iraq, and its heat will continue to intensify... until it burns the crusader armies in Dabiq".

That quote dates back to September 2004 - a few days before Al-Zarqawi's group captured a Briton and two American hostages who were later beheaded.

It has since been used extensively in Dabiq magazine, whose launch in July signalled a clear intention to use the apocalyptic imagery to reach out to an international audience.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30083303
 
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