is it pnumonea , allergies, or heat?

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tsuke

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So which one is it? I just saw an article saying her doctor diagnosed her with pnumonea, lethal at her age, hillary saying the coughing is just allergies, and her team saying its the heat.
 
tsuke said:
So which one is it? I just saw an article saying her doctor diagnosed her with pnumonea, lethal at her age, hillary saying the coughing is just allergies, and her team saying its the heat.
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It's not necessarily lethal at her age but she should probably be in the hospital on IV antibiotics instead of campaigning.

All three options kind of fit together. It could have started as allergies but mucous from the sinuses can find it's way into the respiratory system and cause an infection. That explains the pneumonia; and obviously, even a young healthy person could struggle in the heat if they have pneumonia.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
It's not necessarily lethal at her age but she should probably be in the hospital on IV antibiotics instead of campaigning.

All three options kind of fit together. It could have started as allergies but mucous from the sinuses can find it's way into the respiratory system and cause an infection. That explains the pneumonia; and obviously, even a young healthy person could struggle in the heat if they have pneumonia.
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This isn't necessarily true.

If the possible types of pneumonia she could have are

1) pneumococcal
2) atypical
3) aspiration

1 and 2 are most likely and are typically covered with current antibiotics such as levofloxacin and arithromycin

3 is highly unlikely but would be treated much differently

Not all pneumonias require hospitalization. That is determined by patient status such as an inability to breathe which can be assessed with a pulse oximetry device. As long as she is in no immediate danger and has a functioning gastrointestinal tract (looking at how fat she is there is no question about that) she can be treated with oral antibiotics as they have great oral bioavailability.

The larger issue is this sudden diagnosis. You would think an enterprising young reporter would ask the question "when did Crooked ILLary take time out of her schedule to see a doctor?

You see pneumonia isn't something you diagnose over the phone or with telepathy. A standard differential includes:

1) physical particularly listening to the lungs
2) blood and urine cultures
3) chest x ray

This can take upwards of two hours. When in her schedule did she have this done?

If the doctor told her to rest, why didn't she? Why did she continue to campaign?

This whole thing is a lie to cover up what is really wrong with her

Closely look at the video. She didn't stumble. Before the van pulls up, she is being propped up by an aid and looks visibly unsteady. When the van pulls up and they go to move she didn't stumble. She couldn't move and those helping her were caught off guard by suddenly handling dead weight and they were thrown off balance and fell forward.

I know Rancid and KKKhristiefan will believe anything that comes out of her campaign but they are being lied to. You would think if the two of them really cared about Crooked ILLary they would want the truth to come out.
 
Crooked ILLary said:
This isn't necessarily true.

If the possible types of pneumonia she could have are

1) pneumococcal
2) atypical
3) aspiration

1 and 2 are most likely and are typically covered with current antibiotics such as levofloxacin and arithromycin

3 is highly unlikely but would be treated much differently

Not all pneumonias require hospitalization. That is determined by patient status such as an inability to breathe which can be assessed with a pulse oximetry device. As long as she is in no immediate danger and has a functioning gastrointestinal tract (looking at how fat she is there is no question about that) she can be treated with oral antibiotics as they have great oral bioavailability.

The larger issue is this sudden diagnosis. You would think an enterprising young reporter would ask the question "when did Crooked ILLary take time out of her schedule to see a doctor?

You see pneumonia isn't something you diagnose over the phone or with telepathy. A standard differential includes:

1) physical particularly listening to the lungs
2) blood and urine cultures
3) chest x ray

This can take upwards of two hours. When in her schedule did she have this done?

If the doctor told her to rest, why didn't she? Why did she continue to campaign?

This whole thing is a lie to cover up what is really wrong with her

Closely look at the video. She didn't stumble. Before the van pulls up, she is being propped up by an aid and looks visibly unsteady. When the van pulls up and they go to move she didn't stumble. She couldn't move and those helping her were caught off guard by suddenly handling dead weight and they were thrown off balance and fell forward.

I know Rancid and KKKhristiefan will believe anything that comes out of her campaign but they are being lied to. You would think if the two of them really cared about Crooked ILLary they would want the truth to come out.
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Strong work on the differential diagnosis lol.

I don't want her to be sick. I just want her and Bill to be sent off into political retirement. Starting November 9th.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
It's not necessarily lethal at her age but she should probably be in the hospital on IV antibiotics instead of campaigning.

All three options kind of fit together. It could have started as allergies but mucous from the sinuses can find it's way into the respiratory system and cause an infection. That explains the pneumonia; and obviously, even a young healthy person could struggle in the heat if they have pneumonia.
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I think this is my first thread/post regarding the sickness. I didnt really see it as a big issue. The most annoying thing for me though is that right after her doctors visit where they said she has pnumonea she hugged a little girl >.> possibly infecting her too.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
It's not necessarily lethal at her age but she should probably be in the hospital on IV antibiotics instead of campaigning.

All three options kind of fit together. It could have started as allergies but mucous from the sinuses can find it's way into the respiratory system and cause an infection. That explains the pneumonia; and obviously, even a young healthy person could struggle in the heat if they have pneumonia.
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Pneumonia is a secondary condition most of the time.
But it represents an escalation to a dangerous state and is typically cited as cause of death where another condition takes a bad turn.
If they're admitting it, that's serious.
 
Celticguy said:
Pneumonia is a secondary condition most of the time.
But it represents an escalation to a dangerous state and is typically cited as cause of death where another condition takes a bad turn.
If they're admitting it, that's serious.
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I think they were forced to admit it, finally. That they admitted doesn't say anything conclusive about other comorbidities.

Until there's an actual medical report all you can do is speculate.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
I think they were forced to admit it, finally. That they admitted doesn't say anything conclusive about other comorbidities.

Until there's an actual medical report all you can do is speculate.
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It's the first shred of honesty surrounding this.
We're she to follow dr orders she would likely be fine in a few weeks time. But they tried dodging and hiding instead. It's understandable but still a dangerous game at her age and dishonest to the public.
 
Celticguy said:
It's the first shred of honesty surrounding this.
We're she to follow dr orders she would likely be fine in a few weeks time. But they tried dodging and hiding instead. It's understandable but still a dangerous game at her age and dishonest to the public.
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If it's just pneumonia she'll likely be fine.

Politically, even 'just pneumonia' could cost her the election though. The numbers were tightening up even before this.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
If it's just pneumonia she'll likely be fine.

Politically, even 'just pneumonia' could cost her the election though. The numbers were tightening up even before this.
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It's rarely just pneumonia. Unless it's passed to you of course. It's something that develops as a result of other things.
Isn't it odd she would choose to place herself in her grandchildren's presence with a cominical disease ?
 
I don't believe she has pneumonia. It is too convenient?

Look at the chain of events

1) Hillary can't stand has to be thrown into a can
2) She disappears for an hour and a half with no word to the press
3) He aides say she was "overheated"
4) She ends up at Chelsea's
5) She reappears and out of the blue some little girl just runs up to her and gives her a hug

Now let's walk through each one logically and ask a few questions

If she were really diagnosed with pneumonia

1) why didn't they announce it on Friday? If she was supposed to rest why didn't she?
2) why did they pass off the "overheated" story and not add that she was diagnosed with pneumonia?
3) why didn't they take her right to a hospital? Overheating and pneumonia at her age could be bad. She should have been taken to a hospital for evaluation
4) Chelsea just had a baby. Why would they take the risk of exposing them to infection?
5) How did this little girl just manage to run up to her? Where were the Secret Service? Was it really spontaneous or a staged event worthy of Castro?
6) if she really had pneumonia wasn't it irresponsible to expose this young girl?


This is as fishy as her email scandal and will not go away
 
This is a great article on the new troubles for Crooked ILLary

Not only is her health and ability to handle the job in question, but again due to the way her campaign handled it she heightens her lack of trustworthiness by not coming clean.

Look at the actual timeline and the whole thing is fishy. Rancid and KKKhristiefan can scream "CONSPIRACY THEORY" all they want but questions are now raised.

http://theweek.com/articles/648141/why-did-hillary-clinton-lie-about-health
 
I remember my entire office being sent home when a particularly nasty strain of flu tore through Southern California. My own case progressed from the flu, to bronchitis to "walking pneumonia". I could walk, but I didn't want to. I guess hillary must have the "staggering and collapsing pneumonia", and the only treatment is to head straight for her daughter's apartment.
 
callinectes said:
I remember my entire office being sent home when a particularly nasty strain of flu tore through Southern California. My own case progressed from the flu, to bronchitis to "walking pneumonia". I could walk, but I didn't want to. I guess hillary must have the "staggering and collapsing pneumonia", and the only treatment is to head straight for her daughter's apartment.
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I had it once. I wasn't bed ridden but I was off my game and unable to go to work for about three weeks. The worst thing was the cough....it was like the cough from hell lol.

I coughed for weeks even after I got better. But I got a chest X-Ray, oral antibiotics, cough medicine and that was it.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
I had it once. I wasn't bed ridden but I was off my game and unable to go to work for about three weeks. The worst thing was the cough....it was like the cough from hell lol.

I coughed for weeks even after I got better. But I got a chest X-Ray, oral antibiotics, cough medicine and that was it.
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I'm guessing you were younger as you were working and probably in generally good health before the onset.
She is aged, sick before and nit in particularly good health.
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Political trust is a fragile thing. Once it's gone, it's exceedingly difficult to get back — and without it, there's no basis on which to dismiss conspiracy theories that even normally level-headed observers will begin, for perfectly understandable reasons, to entertain.

Like so many of the scandals and pseudo-scandals that have dogged Hillary Clinton and her husband through the years, this one needs to be recognized as entirely self-inflicted. The campaign now has to live with the consequences of having chosen to lie to get out of a problem.
http://theweek.com/articles/648141/why-did-hillary-clinton-lie-about-health

bingo
 
The new spin out of Camp Clinton is that there was a respiratory disease that rampaged through her campaign office.

What is really sad to watch is how this is blowing up in her face. She takes a little thing like being sick (which any rational person would understand) and hides behind lies and obfuscation. This only reinforces the distrust she has amassed
 
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