Infringing on soldiers right s to practice their faith!

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patriot66

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This is shameful and disgusting but typical for the Muslim in Chief and his agenda.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/...rt-Martial-Soldiers-Who-Share-Christian-Faith

Pentagon May Court Martial Soldiers Who Share Christian Faith
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by Ken Klukowski1 May 2013, 8:12 AM PDT5362post a comment View Discussion

The Pentagon has released a statement confirming that soldiers could be prosecuted for promoting their faith: "Religious proselytization is not permitted within the Department of Defense...Court martials and non-judicial punishments are decided on a case-by-case basis...”.

The statement, released to Fox News, follows a Breitbart News report on Obama administration Pentagon appointees meeting with anti-Christian extremist Mikey Weinstein to develop court-martial procedures to punish Christians in the military who express or share their faith.

(From our earlier report: Weinstein is the head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, and says Christians--including chaplains--sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ in the military are guilty of “treason,” and of committing an act of “spiritual rape” as serious a crime as “sexual assault.” He also asserted that Christians sharing their faith in the military are “enemies of the Constitution.”)

Being convicted in a court martial means that a soldier has committed a crime under federal military law. Punishment for a court martial can include imprisonment and being dishonorably discharged from the military.

So President Barack Obama’s civilian appointees who lead the Pentagon are confirming that the military will make it a crime--possibly resulting in imprisonment--for those in uniform to share their faith. This would include chaplains—military officers who are ordained clergymen of their faith (mostly Christian pastors or priests, or Jewish rabbis)--whose duty since the founding of the U.S. military under George Washington is to teach their faith and minister to the spiritual needs of troops who come to them for counsel, instruction, or comfort.

This regulation would severely limit expressions of faith in the military, even on a one-to-one basis between close friends. It could also effectively abolish the position of chaplain in the military, as it would not allow chaplains (or any service members, for that matter), to say anything about their faith that others say led them to think they were being encouraged to make faith part of their life. It’s difficult to imagine how a member of the clergy could give spiritual counseling without saying anything that might be perceived in that fashion.

In response to the Pentagon’s plans, retired Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin, who is now executive vice president of the Family Research Council (FRC), said on Fox & Friends Wednesday morning:

It’s a matter of what do they mean by "proselytizing." ...I think they’ve got their defintions a little confused. If you’re talking about coercion that’s one thing, but if you’re talking about the free exercise of our faith as individual soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines, especially for the chaplains, they I think the worst thing we can do is stop the ability for a soldier to be able to exercise his faith.”

FRC has launched a petition here which has already collected over 30,000 signatures, calling on Secretary Hagel is stop working with Weinstein and his anti-Christian organization to develop military policy regarding religious faith.
 
Hmmmm....

Believe, but please for the love of pete shut your mouths about it. Wallow in your immoral ignorant lifestyles and leave us alone.
 
It WAS pretty annoying when you had a born-again Gunny talking about how we needed to be saved right before (and after) getting told to go drink ourselves into an early grave.

On the other hand, the fact that chaplins exist kinda puts a hole in the supposed DoD policy.
 
We used to have some Jesus freak leave those stupid tracts all over the place. Pain in the ass got caught and I had the pleasure of signing the paperwork to kick his ass out of the service so serving his country wouldn't get in the way of his lord.

Last I heard he and his family were homeless. Tight work there Grilled Cheesus!
 
So far nothing intelligent, except ILA, how about their constitutional rights to freely express themselves when it comes to their faith. I notice when that is brought up no one on the left seems to care. You people are haters of anything good, and decent, and moral. You realize your need for faith in God, and His Son Jesus, but you suppress it so you can live your immoral lifestyles and not feel guilty, how else do you explain the lack of coverage of this issue and the murdering abortion Doctor.
 
patriot66 said:
So far nothing intelligent, except ILA, how about their constitutional rights to freely express themselves when it comes to their faith. I notice when that is brought up no one on the left seems to care. You people are haters of anything good, and decent, and moral. You realize your need for faith in God, and His Son Jesus, but you suppress it so you can live your immoral lifestyles and not feel guilty, how else do you explain the lack of coverage of this issue and the murdering abortion Doctor.
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Where were you back in 2004 when the Pentagon chastised Gen. Boykin for his religious comments? What about your Messiah bush's weasel words on the topic: "Boykin didn't reflect my point of view or the point of view of this administration." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_G._Boykin#cite_note-17

Where were you when some of the military in Iraq got slapped down for trying to convert Muslims, giving them Bibles and other fundie literature?

"That would appear to violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment prohibiting government officials, including military personnel, from using the machinery of the state to promote any form of religion. The book’s cover includes the logos of the five branches of the armed forces giving the impression that it’s a publication sanctioned by the Pentagon.

The distribution of the Bibles and Christian literature comes on the heels of a report published Wednesday by McClatchy Newspapers stating that U.S. Marines guarding the entrance to the city of Fallujah have been handing out “witnessing coins” to Sunni Muslims entering the city that read in Arabic on one side: “Where will you spend eternity?” and “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. John 3:16″ on the other."

http://pubrecord.org/religion/821/us-soldiers-launch-campaign-to-convert-iraqis-to-christianity/
 
patriot66 said:
So far nothing intelligent, except ILA, how about their constitutional rights to freely express themselves when it comes to their faith. I notice when that is brought up no one on the left seems to care. You people are haters of anything good, and decent, and moral. You realize your need for faith in God, and His Son Jesus, but you suppress it so you can live your immoral lifestyles and not feel guilty, how else do you explain the lack of coverage of this issue and the murdering abortion Doctor.
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I remember being constantly reminded in the military that you sign away your first amendment rights when you join. The UCMJ has lon standing laws against proselytizing, and rightfully so.

christiefan915 said:
Where were you back in 2004 when the Pentagon chastised Gen. Boykin for his religious comments? What about your Messiah bush's weasel words on the topic: "Boykin didn't reflect my point of view or the point of view of this administration." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_G._Boykin#cite_note-17

Where were you when some of the military in Iraq got slapped down for trying to convert Muslims, giving them Bibles and other fundie literature?

"That would appear to violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment prohibiting government officials, including military personnel, from using the machinery of the state to promote any form of religion. The book’s cover includes the logos of the five branches of the armed forces giving the impression that it’s a publication sanctioned by the Pentagon.

The distribution of the Bibles and Christian literature comes on the heels of a report published Wednesday by McClatchy Newspapers stating that U.S. Marines guarding the entrance to the city of Fallujah have been handing out “witnessing coins” to Sunni Muslims entering the city that read in Arabic on one side: “Where will you spend eternity?” and “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. John 3:16″ on the other."

http://pubrecord.org/religion/821/us-soldiers-launch-campaign-to-convert-iraqis-to-christianity/
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This is why. The military bends over backwards to accomodate the religion, all religions, of the troops, but to push your personal religion on others is illegal.
 
christiefan915 said:
Where were you back in 2004 when the Pentagon chastised Gen. Boykin for his religious comments? What about your Messiah bush's weasel words on the topic: "Boykin didn't reflect my point of view or the point of view of this administration." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_G._Boykin#cite_note-17

Where were you when some of the military in Iraq got slapped down for trying to convert Muslims, giving them Bibles and other fundie literature?

"That would appear to violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment prohibiting government officials, including military personnel, from using the machinery of the state to promote any form of religion. The book’s cover includes the logos of the five branches of the armed forces giving the impression that it’s a publication sanctioned by the Pentagon.

The distribution of the Bibles and Christian literature comes on the heels of a report published Wednesday by McClatchy Newspapers stating that U.S. Marines guarding the entrance to the city of Fallujah have been handing out “witnessing coins” to Sunni Muslims entering the city that read in Arabic on one side: “Where will you spend eternity?” and “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. John 3:16″ on the other."

http://pubrecord.org/religion/821/us-soldiers-launch-campaign-to-convert-iraqis-to-christianity/
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9 years ago? probably cheering the soldiers on, and being pissed at Bush Maybe if the Chrsitian soldiers would have tattooed John 3:16 on themselves and blew themselves up in markets the muslims would have converted
 
patriot66 said:
So far nothing intelligent, except ILA, how about their constitutional rights to freely express themselves when it comes to their faith. I notice when that is brought up no one on the left seems to care. You people are haters of anything good, and decent, and moral. You realize your need for faith in God, and His Son Jesus, but you suppress it so you can live your immoral lifestyles and not feel guilty, how else do you explain the lack of coverage of this issue and the murdering abortion Doctor.
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Dude when you join the military you give up all sorts of rights.
 
Howey said:
We used to have some Jesus freak leave those stupid tracts all over the place. Pain in the ass got caught and I had the pleasure of signing the paperwork to kick his ass out of the service so serving his country wouldn't get in the way of his lord.

Last I heard he and his family were homeless. Tight work there Grilled Cheesus!
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I confess, I laughed at the Grilled Cheesus
 
christiefan915 said:
Constitutional rights?
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Yes. Well, in theory, anyways. If you wanted to try and make a case, TECHNICALLY the Constitution wins out over the UCMJ because of Article 6. But that defense has never been tested, so it's all conjecture on my part. From a practical standpoint, yes, you give up pretty much ALL your rights when you sign the contract.
 
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