If this is accurate, what does it mean for Obamacare?

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A Manhattan Institute study suggests that average to younger-than-average men will face underlying rate hikes of 97 to 99 percent, with women facing increases of 55 to 62 percent.



A new study from the American Action Forum that looks at healthy 30-year-old men finds that underlying premiums for those individuals will increase by an average of 260 percent.



The AAF study compared the least-expensive plans available today to the cheapest plans on the Obamacare exchanges, as did the Manhattan Institute study.



The MI analysis, by contrast, adjusted those pre-ACA rates to take into account sicker individuals.



In a sense, the AAF study is more relevant to the problem at hand.



Obamacare makes healthy people pay more for insurance in order to subsidize sicker people.



It makes younger people pay more to subsidize older people.



It makes men pay more to subsidize women.



It makes everyone pay more to cover benefits, taxes, and fees that consumers might not ordinarily want.



http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/03/enrollment-in-obamacares-federal-exchange-so-far-is-in-the-single-digits/
 
Depends on the exchange, the rate regulation/lack of regulation in the state, and the plans available. It is true that younger/healthier people will pay higher premiums, but if they're eligible for subsidies, it's a wash.
 
Depends on the exchange, the rate regulation/lack of regulation in the state, and the plans available. It is true that younger/healthier people will pay higher premiums, but if they're eligible for subsidies, it's a wash.

So you say.
 
No, thanks. I don't know (or care to know) where you claim to reside.
I don't want you to check my state. You made a claim. If you are interested in backing it up, then go to the link you provided, and check each state for rates. Then, see if Red states have worse rates.
 
I don't want you to check my state. You made a claim. If you are interested in backing it up, then go to the link you provided, and check each state for rates. Then, see if Red states have worse rates.

Are you arguing a causative effect?
 
I don't want you to check my state. You made a claim. If you are interested in backing it up, then go to the link you provided, and check each state for rates. Then, see if Red states have worse rates.

You are dealing with Legion troll, who has many personas who all have one thing in common. They ask lots of questions but never answer any.
 
You are dealing with Legion troll, who has many personas who all have one thing in common. They ask lots of questions but never answer any.
Yes...I've recognized that. I'll toy with it until it tires of being embarrassed in front of everyone.
 
LOL.

So are you positing that "red states have higher rates"?
I'm positing that states with governors who obstructed the process, have federal exchanges. Some of these exchanges have only one carrier. How do you think those rates will compare to other states' rates?

Similarly, states with enough GOP legislators to block rate regulation, will also have higher rates.

No go do your homework, and let us know what you find.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Action_Network


The American Action Network is a nonprofit issue advocacy group based in Washington, D.C. which promotes center right public policy. It was established in 2010 by Fred Malek and Norm Coleman as a 501(c)(4) organization. The American Action Network's sister organization, the American Action Forum, is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization focusing on policy.




His study is right wing hack crap
 
Whereas 'regulation' doesn't always equate to rate regulation, those states who oversee rate hikes will do better than those who don't. California has oversight, but still can't get rate regulation past an obstructionist legislature.
 
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