If Tampa is hit, will the GOP deny the city disaster aid?

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Is the GOP suddenly now in charge of disaster relief and who gets it? When did that happen? Last I checked, these things were voted on by congress after the president declared a disaster. Congress is controlled by the Democrats and we have a Democrat president... so shouldn't the question be; Will DEMOCRATS deny disaster relief?
 
Dixie said:
Is the GOP suddenly now in charge of disaster relief and who gets it? When did that happen? Last I checked, these things were voted on by congress after the president declared a disaster. Congress is controlled by the Democrats and we have a Democrat president... so shouldn't the question be; Will DEMOCRATS deny disaster relief?
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SENATE BREAKS GOP FILIBUSTER TO APPROVE DISASTER RELIEF, PUTTING BALL IN CANTOR’S COURT | Senate Democrats finally passed a natural disaster relief package this evening, getting eight Republicans senators to help them overcome a GOP filibuster of the bill. Despite the unprecedented number of natural disasters this year, Republicans have demanded the new funds be offset by spending cuts elsewhere, even though such aid is not traditionally offset. Now the bill heads to the House, where Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) has been outspoken is his demand for the offsets — will he hold up the aid package that FEMA says it needs?



Senate Democrats were successful the second time around Tuesday, narrowly advancing a $7 billion disaster aid package that Republicans blocked a day earlier.
On a 61-38 vote, all 53 Democrats and eight Republicans from disaster-afflicted states agreed to move forward on legislation that would help areas of the country hit by Hurricane Irene and recent tornadoes, flooding and wildfires. Sixty votes were needed.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/...isaster-Aid-Past-Republican-Filibuster-Hurdle

What fucking planet do you live on?
 
Crashk said:
SENATE BREAKS GOP FILIBUSTER TO APPROVE DISASTER RELIEF, PUTTING BALL IN CANTOR’S COURT | Senate Democrats finally passed a natural disaster relief package this evening, getting eight Republicans senators to help them overcome a GOP filibuster of the bill. Despite the unprecedented number of natural disasters this year, Republicans have demanded the new funds be offset by spending cuts elsewhere, even though such aid is not traditionally offset. Now the bill heads to the House, where Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) has been outspoken is his demand for the offsets — will he hold up the aid package that FEMA says it needs?



Senate Democrats were successful the second time around Tuesday, narrowly advancing a $7 billion disaster aid package that Republicans blocked a day earlier.
On a 61-38 vote, all 53 Democrats and eight Republicans from disaster-afflicted states agreed to move forward on legislation that would help areas of the country hit by Hurricane Irene and recent tornadoes, flooding and wildfires. Sixty votes were needed.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/...isaster-Aid-Past-Republican-Filibuster-Hurdle



What fucking planet do you live on?
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ROTFLMAO
 
Ouch.

Wasn't it the Cantor who, for the first time in our nations history, demand that disaster funds be paid for by cuts elsewhere? I believe it was social programs?
 
What fucking planet do you live on?
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The one that doesn't lap up koolaid from DailyKos, I suppose!

...that would help areas of the country hit by Hurricane Irene and recent tornadoes, flooding and wildfires.

...Wow, it says nothing at all about Hurricane Isaac which still hasn't made landfall.

...Republicans have demanded the new funds be offset by spending cuts elsewhere...

New funds? As opposed to the original disaster relief funds? Hmmm? And what the fuck is the problem with accounting for the money we spend on any damn thing? Do you people just not believe in that anymore? We can just willy-nilly fucking spend money and not have to actually come up with it?

What fucking planet do YOU live on, Bozo?
 
j-mac said:
I think it should spammer troll...What say you?
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What says Tea Party darling Eric Cantor?


The No. 2 House Republican said that if Congress doles out additional money to assist in the aftermath of natural disasters across the country, the spending may need to be offset.


House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said “if there is support for a supplemental, it would be accompanied by support for having pay-fors to that supplemental.”


Finding ways to offset disaster relief funds could be a significant challenge for House Republicans and would put their promise to cut spending to a true test.


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I don’t expect much from House Republicans, but this managed to actually surprise me.

When disaster strikes and there are deadly consequences, federal officials are expected to put aside politics and ideology, and commit whatever’s necessary to help.

Tom DeLay, when he was the House Majority Leader, believed emergency disaster relief should be immediate, without regard for offsetting cuts.

“It is right to borrow to pay for it,” DeLay said at the time, adding that cuts could undermine the economy.

Congratulations, Eric Cantor. You’ve made Tom DeLay look like a moderate...


http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_05/cantor_demands_spendingcut_ran029799.php
 
j-mac said:
Shouldn't Disaster aid be a state issue?
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I don't believe it should necessarily be, but it shouldn't be some federal OBLIGATION either. You raise good point though, in 1901(?) when Galveston was completely obliterated by a hurricane, there was no federal relief, they never got a dime from the federal government to help with the disaster, and there was no FEMA. The people of the state of Texas rebuilt the town themselves, with their own resources. Galveston survived and is still alive and kicking today, proving the federal government wasn't needed.

Katrina is where things changed, and it was almost 'slight-of-hand' how it happened. Before Katrina, it had been the routine for the state to assist government help, and then the feds responded. FEMA was never designed or intended to be a "first responder" in case of emergency, that is the state and local government's role... it always has been. But because the Bush Administration was completely inept at handling public relations, they allowed liberals to distort and twist the role of FEMA and the Feds into this fucked up notion that they were supposed to BE THERE when all hell broke loose to save the people, and it was Bush's fault they weren't! Now, it seems to be 'conventional wisdom' that this is FEMAs role, and we just roll along accepting that idea, which was NEVER established by Congress or the states. It's essentially a federal power grab by liberals, which no one has the balls to call them on!
 
Dixie said:
I don't believe it should necessarily be, but it shouldn't be some federal OBLIGATION either. You raise good point though, in 1901(?) when Galveston was completely obliterated by a hurricane, there was no federal relief, they never got a dime from the federal government to help with the disaster, and there was no FEMA. The people of the state of Texas rebuilt the town themselves, with their own resources. Galveston survived and is still alive and kicking today, proving the federal government wasn't needed.

Katrina is where things changed, and it was almost 'slight-of-hand' how it happened. Before Katrina, it had been the routine for the state to assist government help, and then the feds responded. FEMA was never designed or intended to be a "first responder" in case of emergency, that is the state and local government's role... it always has been. But because the Bush Administration was completely inept at handling public relations, they allowed liberals to distort and twist the role of FEMA and the Feds into this fucked up notion that they were supposed to BE THERE when all hell broke loose to save the people, and it was Bush's fault they weren't! Now, it seems to be 'conventional wisdom' that this is FEMAs role, and we just roll along accepting that idea, which was NEVER established by Congress or the states. It's essentially a federal power grab by liberals, which no one has the balls to call them on!
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Dixie proves his ignorance again...



The facts:


Before 1950, disaster response was characterized by an ad hoc, or case by case, approach. Relief involved a reaction to specific crises with little planning or preparation for future disasters.


Then, as now, it was initially activated by local or state officials, and, if necessary, appeals were made to the federal government. Such an approach was often so disorganized that it frustrated effective disaster relief. Federal aid was rarely immediate and instead came some time after a disaster had occurred.


Critics often complained that the federal response to disasters was dilatory, insufficient, and inconsistent.


With the passage of the Disaster Relief Act of 1950 (Pub. L. No. 81-875, 64 Stat. 1109), Congress for the first time authorized a coordinated federal response to major disasters.


The act, which was repealed in 1970, defined a disaster as "[a]ny flood, drought, fire, hurricane, earthquake, storm, or other catastrophe in any part of the U.S. which in the determination of the President, is or threatens to be of sufficient severity and magnitude to warrant disaster assistance by the Federal government."


Significantly, this definition gave the president broad powers to respond to a crisis, powers that are related to the president's role as commander in chief of the nation's military and that have remained in all subsequent federal disaster legislation.


Later laws gradually increased the scope of federal disaster assistance.


In the 1950s and 1960s, Congress authorized the provision of temporary shelter, surplus federal supplies, loans, and unemployment assistance for disaster victims. Many of these features were later incorporated into the comprehensive Disaster Relief Act of 1970 (84 Stat. 1744 [42 U.S.C.A. § 4401 et seq.]).


This act also offered generous assistance for the reconstruction of public facilities, authorizing 100 percent federal financing for such projects even when reconstruction went beyond damage caused by a particular disaster.



The Stafford Act (Pub. L. No. 93-288, 42 U.S.C.A. § 5121 et seq.) expands still further the role of the federal government in disaster relief.


Under this legislation, the federal government may provide grants to fund a number of additional forms of assistance: the full cost for the reconstruction of certain private, nonprofit facilities and owner-occupied private residential structures; loans to local governments to cover operating expenses; free temporary housing for up to twelve months; the installation of essential utilities; mortgage or rental payments to individuals for up to one year; and food stamps, legal services, and counseling services for low-income citizens.


The act also includes an unprecedented authorization of long-range community economic recovery programs for disaster areas. Under these provisions, recovery planning councils develop five-year recovery investment plans, which are eligible to receive up to 90 percent of their funding from the federal government.



In 1979, concerns about overly bureaucratic procedures and a lack of coordination in government efforts to respond to disasters, as well as the need for improved programs for disaster prevention and preparedness, led to the creation of FEMA.


A poor federal response to disasters such as Hurricane Hugo and the Loma Prieta earthquake, both occurring in 1989, prompted calls for a greater use of the military in disaster relief.


In 1993, amendments to the Stafford Act empowered the president to more readily call on the federal armed forces to assist in disaster relief.



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