I am inclined to listen to the expert in science and medicine. How bout you?

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[NOVA]

Seems the pinheads don't have very much to comment on here.....Apple should be here to explain how the baby is only lump of cells and
not even human yet.....or the poor womens life is being saved....

Well, at least one is stupid enough to groan about the video....

 

[I'm Watermark]

Actually, ILA's on IA... so I don't know what the thread's about. :lol:

 

[Anti-Party]

"I am inclined to listen to the expert in science and medicine. How bout you? " What about Global Warming? Or do you only listen when it favors your party?

Abortion is wrong and terrible. But crime rates went down by LARGE almost exactly 18 years after Abortions were deemed legal.

To anyone with a brain, it's clear Abortions are clearly avoiding the path of a possible young and neglectful parent from giving birth to a child and not caring for it.

Also, to anyone with a brain.......it's still a child. It doesn't matter how many Scientists say "It's not human yet"

What matters is;

How do we stop the necessity of abortion when it clearly holds benefits in society?

The answers are in birth control, which are hated and restricted by certain Churches............(the same ones that restrict masturbation and then sling-shot into child relations.)

 

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Actually, ILA's on IA... so I don't know what the thread's about. :lol:

Then you sure look like a dumbfuck for responding to a thread in which you know nothing. Wait, that seems to be a habit for you.

Carry on bitch

 

[canceled.2021.1]

"I am inclined to listen to the expert in science and medicine. How bout you? " What about Global Warming? Or do you only listen when it favors your party?

I don't belong to a political party. So strike 1 for you. As for the science of Mann made global warming? It has been debunked already. Strike 2 for you.

Abortion is wrong and terrible. But crime rates went down by LARGE almost exactly 18 years after Abortions were deemed legal.

Well, now I know why you have been duped into believing Mann made global warming. You don't understand and know how to critically think about data points. You take two disparate data points and try to infer a conclusion. That is not science. That is no better than just pulling something out of your ass. To say that legalizing abortion by itself reduced crime is categorically false because unless you can control for any other factors over that time period you can't prove it. Additionally, if you think abortion is murder and murder is a crime than you are condoning one crime to ostensibly reduce crime? Talk about twisted logic. And don't try to twist yourself in knots claiming that abortion really isn't a crime because the government deems it legal. That is as lame as saying slavery was OK because the government deemed it legal.

To anyone with a brain, it's clear Abortions are clearly avoiding the path of a possible young and neglectful parent from giving birth to a child and not caring for it.

You can't prove that, but I am sure that it helps you reconcile what you know is wrong

Also, to anyone with a brain.......it's still a child. It doesn't matter how many Scientists say "It's not human yet"

What matters is;

How do we stop the necessity of abortion when it clearly holds benefits in society?

The answers are in birth control, which are hated and restricted by certain Churches............(the same ones that restrict masturbation and then sling-shot into child relations.)

Or the answer could be self control and responsibility. Yes, novel ideas and oh so puritan right? You should be able to act on every single human impulse and someone has to give you an insurance policy to ward off the consequences. It is crazy that one should think of the consequences before acting. That would almost be responsible and we can't have that now can we?

 

[Rationalist]

ILA, I think his point is that you only embrace science when its conclusions fit with your ideology. There is overwhelming consensus behind global warming and evolution, yet you reject both - not due to a lack of evidence (the evidence is overwhelming), but because it doesn't fit with your worldview.

 

[Timshel]

It does not matter if you have a party affiliation or not. It is quite clear that you decide every issue based on your repugnant personal biases. You are unprincipled and guided by nothing but hate.

Until you are better able to come up with how to handle cases where it is known the child will be born brain dead, with severe deformities or could present risks to the mother then I choose to leave it to the mother. Until you are willing to deal with those issues in honest and forthright way then it is pretty easy to surmise that this is just a wedge.

 

[Rationalist]

What's sickening about most pro-lifers is that they don't give a fuck about children once they are born. Abortion = bad, children starving = not our problem.

 

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ILA, I think his point is that you only embrace science when its conclusions fit with your ideology. There is overwhelming consensus behind global warming and evolution, yet you reject both - not due to a lack of evidence (the evidence is overwhelming), but because it doesn't fit with your worldview.

consensus is not science.

I don't reject that the erf gets warmer and gets colder. I reject that man has any role in changing the climate. There is a difference. You think it is either or.

I don't reject evolution per se. I recognize that it exists. I reject that evolution is how man came to be in his present form. It is just biologically and statistically impossible. As I have said before, there are too many complex biochemical processes that did not just happen by chance. You are out of your depth with me on these issues. But, you make them as a dichotomy and you claim that those who do not accept your world view must be anti science. You are just an uniformed low information bigot. So go fuck yourself

 

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It does not matter if you have a party affiliation or not. It is quite clear that you decide every issue based on your repugnant personal biases. You are unprincipled and guided by nothing but hate.

Until you are better able to come up with how to handle cases where it is known the child will be born brain dead, with severe deformities or could present risks to the mother then I choose to leave it to the mother. Until you are willing to deal with those issues in honest and forthright way then it is pretty easy to surmise that this is just a wedge.

Fine, lets compromise. I will allow for abortion of babies who will born brain dead and severe deformities and rape and incest if you agree to make it illegal in all other cases. Deal?

I mean you guys are all for compromise right? Where both sides give a little to come to common ground? Well I took the first step. How about you puddin pop?

 

[Timshel]

Fine, lets compromise. I will allow for abortion of babies who will born brain dead and severe deformities and rape and incest if you agree to make it illegal in all other cases. Deal?

I mean you guys are all for compromise right? Where both sides give a little to come to common ground? Well I took the first step. How about you puddin pop?

You are a typical low information hack. This testimony is in regards to a bill that does not contain those exceptions. It has no relevance to limits on abortion within the first 20 weeks.

This is all about your desire to punish and subjugate a demographic you don't like.

 

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You are a typical low information hack. This testimony is in regards to a bill that does not contain those exceptions. It has no relevance to limits on abortion within the first 20 weeks.

This is all about your desire to punish and subjugate a demographic you don't like.

This is just between you and me puddin pop. Will YOU accept my compromise? Will you compromise your baby killing principles?

My position is protecting life. Yours is murder.

 

[zappasguitar]

consensus is not science.

I don't reject that the erf gets warmer and gets colder. I reject that man has any role in changing the climate. There is a difference. You think it is either or.

I don't reject evolution per se. I recognize that it exists. I reject that evolution is how man came to be in his present form. It is just biologically and statistically impossible. As I have said before, there are too many complex biochemical processes that did not just happen by chance. You are out of your depth with me on these issues. But, you make them as a dichotomy and you claim that those who do not accept your world view must be anti science. You are just an uniformed low information bigot. So go fuck yourself

Consensus among scientists is a lot closer to science than the petulant stomping of feet from the deniers.

So evolution is "statistically impossible"?

No problem...show me the math...show everyone how you reached that conclusion.

How about you put some "science" behind your claims?

 

[Timshel]

This is just between you and me puddin pop. Will YOU accept my compromise? Will you compromise your baby killing principles?

My position is protecting life. Yours is murder.

No, like I said the testimony is not about what happens in the first twenty weeks. If abortion opponents were making those considerations in late term abortions it might lead me to believe that they are not just a bunch of backwards fascist and honestly care about the unborn. But they don't give a shit about the unborn. The fetus is a prop in their war on women, equality and the rights of the individual and for increasing the power of the state and returning us to a society dominated by the interest of white male Christians.

Fuck your compromise. All you will get is more bitterness and defeat.

 

[NOVA]

It does not matter if you have a party affiliation or not. It is quite clear that you decide every issue based on your repugnant personal biases. You are unprincipled and guided by nothing but hate.

Until you are better able to come up with how to handle cases where it is known the child will be born brain dead, with severe deformities or could present risks to the mother then I choose to leave it to the mother. Until you are willing to deal with those issues in honest and forthright way then it is pretty easy to surmise that this is just a wedge.

What's sickening about most pro-lifers is that they don't give a fuck about children once they are born. Abortion = bad, children starving = not our problem.

You are a typical low information hack. This testimony is in regards to a bill that does not contain those exceptions. It has no relevance to limits on abortion within the first 20 weeks.

This is all about your desire to punish and subjugate a demographic you don't like.

The insane beliefs of some posters is mind-blowing.

 

[I'm Watermark]

I'd just like to take a second to point out that these are the people saying they want individual liberty... In case you forgot after reading these last posts.

 

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No, like I said the testimony is not about what happens in the first twenty weeks. If abortion opponents were making those considerations in late term abortions it might lead me to believe that they are not just a bunch of backwards fascist and honestly care about the unborn. But they don't give a shit about the unborn. The fetus is a prop in their war on women, equality and the rights of the individual and for increasing the power of the state and returning us to a society dominated by the interest of white male Christians.

Fuck your compromise. All you will get is more bitterness and defeat.

You are bitter because you have been exposed. Carry on shitbag.

 

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Consensus among scientists is a lot closer to science than the petulant stomping of feet from the deniers.

So evolution is "statistically impossible"?

No problem...show me the math...show everyone how you reached that conclusion.

How about you put some "science" behind your claims?

I didn't say evolution itself was statistically impossible. Go back and read what I said dumbass

 

[Timshel]

You are bitter because you have been exposed. Carry on shitbag.

Bitter about? Exposed, in what way? You are the douche who was certain Obama would lose and too stupid to understand the polling data. One would think you'd be use to losing, loser. Don't worry you will have many more chances to become accustomed to it.