'Hundreds dead' after Moskva sinking

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By Nataliya Vasilyeva, Russia Correspondent

Hundreds of sailors are believed to have died aboard the Russian flagship Moskva after it was sunk by Ukrainian missiles, with reports suggesting that just a few dozen of the 510-strong crew were able to be rescued.

It took the Russian military almost a day to admit the embarrassing loss of the pride of its Black Sea fleet after it was hit in the early hours of Thursday. Initially they insisted that it had caught fire after an explosion and was being towed back to land. But the US has since confirmed that the warship was hit by two Ukrainian strikes, believed to be Neptune anti-ship missiles.

The Kremlin later admitted the Moskva had sunk, but said it was due to "choppy waters" and occurred while it was being towed to safety. The Russian Ministry of Defence said on Thursday that all 510 crew had been evacuated from the ship and taken to the ship's home base of Sevastopol in Crimea.

But almost two days on, there is no sign of a single survivor. Uncharacteristically, Russian state TV has not shown any footage or photos of the crew arriving home. If the majority of the crew have died, the incident may end up being the worst single Russian military casualty event since the Second World War.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...oskva/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr
 
martin said:
A sad price ordinary Russians paid for their leader's criminal adventure.
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On the bright side, other potential invaders are learning that it is not as easy as they might have thought. The USA made invasion look easy, which was good for us in the immediate sense, but terrible for the world, when other potential invaders thought it would be easy. America made the occupations look hard, but we made the invasions look easy.

Now the world is seeing even the invasions can be hard. The destruction of the Moskva may well have saved Taiwan.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
By Nataliya Vasilyeva, Russia Correspondent

Hundreds of sailors are believed to have died aboard the Russian flagship Moskva after it was sunk by Ukrainian missiles, with reports suggesting that just a few dozen of the 510-strong crew were able to be rescued.

It took the Russian military almost a day to admit the embarrassing loss of the pride of its Black Sea fleet after it was hit in the early hours of Thursday. Initially they insisted that it had caught fire after an explosion and was being towed back to land. But the US has since confirmed that the warship was hit by two Ukrainian strikes, believed to be Neptune anti-ship missiles.

The Kremlin later admitted the Moskva had sunk, but said it was due to "choppy waters" and occurred while it was being towed to safety. The Russian Ministry of Defence said on Thursday that all 510 crew had been evacuated from the ship and taken to the ship's home base of Sevastopol in Crimea.

But almost two days on, there is no sign of a single survivor. Uncharacteristically, Russian state TV has not shown any footage or photos of the crew arriving home. If the majority of the crew have died, the incident may end up being the worst single Russian military casualty event since the Second World War.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...oskva/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr
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They have since move their fleet further from the coast, Russian sailors died because of putins delusions

And 30 years ago Ukraine and Russia served in the same navy
 
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martin said:
That may be a reach but let's hope so.
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If the Chinese want to invade Taiwan, they need ships to get them across the water. Those ships need to not be sunk by missiles.

Maybe the Chinese have a solution, or think they will be more lucky than the Russians. But we can all hope that the Chinese have drawn the lesson we want from Russia's failure.
 
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