How 'Curveball' made monkeys out of US Intel

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Excerpts from an article by an Iraq war correspondent detail the lies.

NEW YORK -- Take equal parts of ignorance and arrogance, the standard measure of U.S. policy in the Muslim world, shake well, and you get a frothy cocktail of stupidity and blundering that offers a perfect growth medium for con men, special interest promoters, and disinformation.

The black comedy of the Iraqi defector codenamed "Curveball" that has just resurfaced tells us much about how the U.S. has made such a mess in the Mideast and why Washington can't understand or deal with the historic revolution now flaring across the Muslim world.

In 2000, an Iraqi, Ahmed al-Janabi, defected to Germany. To bolster his refugee status, he offered Germany's intelligence service, BND, a bunch of laughable lies about Iraqi chemical and biological weapons. The most notorious: the claim that President Saddam Hussein had mobile biological weapons units that threatened the world...

The Germans didn't believe "Curveball". None of his claims checked out. But, being dutiful U.S. allies, and knowing the Bush administration was hungering for alarming reports about Iraq, no matter how dubious, Germany passed on "Curveball's" claims to the CIA...

This is hardly the first time fakers have made monkeys of U.S. intelligence. For a good example, back in the 1980's, a shady Iranian arms dealer and Israeli agent, Manucher Ghorbanifar, sent President Reagan's Washington into hysteria with phony tales of non-existent Libyan hit-men. In 2001, an Israeli agent of influence in the U.S. government and other neocon officials resurfaced fraudster Ghorbanifar in Rome to offer false claims and forged documents about Iraq's supposed nuclear ambitions...

On 5 Feb., 2003, Secretary of State Colin Powell went before the UN and gravely warned of nefarious Iraqi germ weapons that threatened the entire world, complete with fanciful drawings of bio-warfare vans. Powell even fingered a little phial of white powder that everyone took to be anthrax. This was a clear reminder of the 2001 anthrax panic in the U.S. that was falsely blamed on Muslim extremists or Iraq...

The Bush administration's standard excuse after the 2003 war was: "well, all our allies also thought Iraq had weapons of mass destruction." Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld repeated this canard last week. In fact, the false intelligence that came from France, Germany, Italy had originally been provided to their intelligence agencies by CIA under long-standing intelligence sharing agreements. Garbage in, garbage out. Some of the original U.S. intelligence on Iraq, which was fake, also came from Iraq's bitter enemies, Israel, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia...

The US Congress and media bayed for action against Iraq. As war fever swept over the United States, this writer, an old Iraq hand and war correspondent, warned that Powell's claims were absurd and that Iraq had neither weapons of mass destruction nor delivery systems. Other veteran Mideast observers were brushed aside or ignored. Journalists like me who were "not with the program" were silenced, sometimes at the direct demand of the White House Oval office. George Orwell's famous line about how telling the truth in a time of mass lies becomes an act of sedition was never truer...

Thanks to collusion between the Bush White House and the media, over 80% of Americans wrongly believed Iraq was behind the 9/11 attacks...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-margolis/how-curveball-made-monkey_b_826074.html
 
I admit I did think Saddam had WMD.

Looks like I was wrong, so were a lot of people all over the world.
 
Excerpts from an article by an Iraq war correspondent detail the lies.

This is actually a close rendition of the facts as we now know them...
only in few places are words used to give the wrong impression and to spin the reality...and opinion inserted to push a political agenda instead of clarifying history..(its to be expected of the Huffington Post assholes)...


NEW YORK -- Take equal parts of ignorance and arrogance, the standard measure of U.S. policy in the Muslim world, shake well, and you get a frothy cocktail of stupidity and blundering that offers a perfect growth medium for con men, special interest promoters, and disinformation.

The black comedy of the Iraqi defector codenamed "Curveball" that has just resurfaced tells us much about how the U.S. has made such a mess in the Mideast and why Washington can't understand or deal with the historic revolution now flaring across the Muslim world.

In 2000, an Iraqi, Ahmed al-Janabi, defected to Germany. To bolster his refugee status, he offered Germany's intelligence service, BND, a bunch of laughable lies about Iraqi chemical and biological weapons. The most notorious: the claim that President Saddam Hussein had mobile biological weapons units that threatened the world...

The Germans didn't believe "Curveball". None of his claims checked out. But, being dutiful U.S. allies, and knowing the Bush administration was hungering for alarming reports about Iraq, no matter how dubious (bullshit opinion), Germany passed on "Curveball's" claims to the CIA...

The words German intelligence actually used about the claims was "could not be verified" and "unsubstantiated"...

This is hardly the first time fakers have made monkeys of U.S. intelligence. For a good example, back in the 1980's, a shady Iranian arms dealer and Israeli agent, Manucher Ghorbanifar, sent President Reagan's Washington into hysteria with phony tales of non-existent Libyan hit-men. In 2001, an Israeli agent of influence in the U.S. government and other neocon officials resurfaced fraudster Ghorbanifar in Rome to offer false claims and forged documents about Iraq's supposed nuclear ambitions...

No doubt, our CIA and US intelligence have been misled in the past..not only in the 1980's and 2001....I'm sure only these years are singled out as years the Republicans were in office...

On 5 Feb., 2003, Secretary of State Colin Powell went before the UN and gravely warned of nefarious Iraqi germ weapons that threatened the entire world, complete with fanciful drawings of bio-warfare vans. Powell even fingered a little phial of white powder that everyone took to be anthrax. This was a clear reminder of the 2001 anthrax panic in the U.S. that was falsely blamed on Muslim extremists or Iraq...

The Bush administration's standard excuse after the 2003 war was: "well, all our allies also thought Iraq had weapons of mass destruction." Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld repeated this canard last week. In fact, the false intelligence that came from France, Germany, Italy had originally been provided to their intelligence agencies by CIA under long-standing intelligence sharing agreements. Garbage in, garbage out. Some of the original U.S. intelligence on Iraq, which was fake, also came from Iraq's bitter enemies, Israel, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia...

Nevertheless....that is all true...the US did receive intell from all over the word confirming suspected WMD in Iraq...calling this an excuse is just an attempt to mis-characterize what was believed by every intelligence agency in Europe....

The US Congress and media bayed for action against Iraq.

As the infamous quotes from Democrats undeniably prove, they bayed for action against Saddam as much as anyone...

As war fever swept over the United States, this writer, an old Iraq hand and war correspondent, warned that Powell's claims were absurd and that Iraq had neither weapons of mass destruction nor delivery systems. Other veteran Mideast observers were brushed aside or ignored. Journalists like me who were "not with the program" were silenced, sometimes at the direct demand of the White House Oval office. George Orwell's famous line about how telling the truth in a time of mass lies becomes an act of sedition was never truer...

This "
old Iraq hand and war correspondent" seems to be privy to information that our own CIA and UK intell, etc. wasn't privy to...
quite a claim? or bullshit from a Monday morning quarterback


Thanks to collusion between the Bush White House and the media, over 80% of Americans wrongly believed Iraq was behind the 9/11 attacks...

More bullshit....this lie was created and repeated, ad nausium by Democrats until the media had no choice but to report it....and the old lesson of repeating a lie often enough, worked...and still has believers...
Richard Clark first made reference to a suspected connection between AQ and Iraq...a suspection without any proof, as reported by the 9/11 Commission...


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-margolis/how-curveball-made-monkey_b_826074.html
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Your post doesn't copy.

Margolis has more history than just Huffpo. Note that he writes for The American Conservative. And, he identifies as conservative. Guess that blows to hell your theory that he's a lefty shill.

Damned fool idiot.


Eric S. Margolis is an American-born journalist and writer. For 27 years, ending in 2010,[1] he was a contributing editor to the Toronto Sun[2] chain of newspapers, writing mainly about the Middle East, South Asia and Islam.

Margolis writes a regular column for the Huffington Post and also writes for Dawn,[5] an English language Pakistani newspaper, the Gulf Times[6] in Qatar, the Khaleej Times[7] in Dubai, New York Times[8] and The American Conservative[9][10] . He appears regularly on such television outlets as CNN,[3] Fox, CBC,[3] British Sky Broadcasting News, NPR, and CTV.[11][12] He is a regular guest on the TV Ontario's The Agenda'[13]'.

He is affiliated with several organizations including International Institute of Strategic Studies[14] in London and the Institute of Regional Studies[3] based in Islamabad, Pakistan.

Margolis identifies his politics as "Eisenhower Republican". Though his domestic political persuasion is moderately conservative (he is a staunch anti-communist and a supporter of capitalism), Margolis' views on the Middle East are sharply at odds with those of the neoconservatives.[15]


Eric Margolis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Your post doesn't copy.

Margolis has more history than just Huffpo. Note that he writes for The American Conservative. And, he identifies as conservative. Guess that blows to hell your theory that he's a lefty shill.

Damned fool idiot.


Eric S. Margolis is an American-born journalist and writer. For 27 years, ending in 2010,[1] he was a contributing editor to the Toronto Sun[2] chain of newspapers, writing mainly about the Middle East, South Asia and Islam.

Margolis writes a regular column for the Huffington Post and also writes for Dawn,[5] an English language Pakistani newspaper, the Gulf Times[6] in Qatar, the Khaleej Times[7] in Dubai, New York Times[8] and The American Conservative[9][10] . He appears regularly on such television outlets as CNN,[3] Fox, CBC,[3] British Sky Broadcasting News, NPR, and CTV.[11][12] He is a regular guest on the TV Ontario's The Agenda'[13]'.

He is affiliated with several organizations including International Institute of Strategic Studies[14] in London and the Institute of Regional Studies[3] based in Islamabad, Pakistan.

Margolis identifies his politics as "Eisenhower Republican". Though his domestic political persuasion is moderately conservative (he is a staunch anti-communist and a supporter of capitalism), Margolis' views on the Middle East are sharply at odds with those of the neoconservatives.[15]


Eric Margolis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I never called him a "lefty shill" or made any derogatory comment about him...so stick with the facts instead of your usual lies and innuendo...
I don't give a shit what his politics are or that he fancies himself an
"Eisenhower Republican", whatever that means to him....

He writes for Huffington....The Huffington Post is a self described left wing blog and Arianna is a self described left wing liberal Democrat....as such...
he will write and promote that liberal spin or he won't get published on Huffington...even a pinhead won't deny that....
you don't seriously deny that , to you....?

 
I never called him a "lefty shill" or made any derogatory comment about him...so stick with the facts instead of your usual lies and innuendo...
I don't give a shit what his politics are or that he fancies himself an
"Eisenhower Republican", whatever that means to him....

He writes for Huffington....The Huffington Post is a self described left wing blog and Arianna is a self described left wing liberal Democrat....as such...
he will write and promote that liberal spin or he won't get published on Huffington...even a pinhead won't deny that....
you don't seriously deny that , to you....?


Oh please. He wrote similar articles for The American Conservative, a right-wing blog. Pat Buchanan is no one's idea of a liberal but he still published Margolis' columns. Now try and fix the righty spin around those facts, nitwit.

Iraq Invasion: The Road to Folly

Ignorant of Iraq, void of strategic vision, and viewing the Mideast through the neoconservative prism, Bush steers America toward a quagmire.

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2002/oct/07/00010/

And btw, isn't "Huffington Post asshole" a derogatory comment?
 
Oh please. He wrote similar articles for The American Conservative, a right-wing blog. Pat Buchanan is no one's idea of a liberal but he still published Margolis' columns. Now try and fix the righty spin around those facts, nitwit.

Iraq Invasion: The Road to Folly

Ignorant of Iraq, void of strategic vision, and viewing the Mideast through the neoconservative prism, Bush steers America toward a quagmire.

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2002/oct/07/00010/

And btw, isn't "Huffington Post asshole" a derogatory comment?

I love the way they always try to shoot the messenger rather than deal with the message.
 
Oh please. He wrote similar articles for The American Conservative, a right-wing blog. Pat Buchanan is no one's idea of a liberal but he still published Margolis' columns. Now try and fix the righty spin around those facts, nitwit.

He wrote similar articles for The American Conservative?
Pat Buchanan is no liberal but he still published Margolis' columns?

So what? Whats your point? Conservative blogs often post articles unflattering to the right....just as you point out...I agree.
We're FAIR AND BALANCED
:bleh:

You will NEVER find Huffington posting articles that put the lefties in a bad light....and thats the point....



Iraq Invasion: The Road to Folly

Ignorant of Iraq, void of strategic vision, and viewing the Mideast through the neoconservative prism, Bush steers America toward a quagmire.

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2002/oct/07/00010/

And btw, isn't "Huffington Post asshole" a derogatory comment?

"Huffington Post asshole" certainly is a derogatory comment.

Again, so what....whats your point?
If you think that refers to
Margolis, you're mistaken......
It refers to "The Huffington Post" , period....and Arianna, its namesake in particular...didn't mean to throw you a "curveball".:palm:


 
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