Homelessness

cawacko

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Homelessness is basically handled on a local level. SF spends hundreds of millions annually and our problem only gets worse. I saw it argued homelessness should be handled at the federal level. I don't agree although I'm open to changing my mind if there is a proposed solution that would work better federally. Anyone here have thoughts on what a federal solution might look like?




How SF tourism industry deals with the homeless crisis

“I actually think it’s the worst it’s ever been”


San Francisco is home to some of the country’s nicest and priciest hotels. But many of them struggle with the optics outside their expertly-designed lobbies. In addition to competing with Airbnb, most if not all Union Square hotels have had to come to terms with the adjacent street misery.

In Heather Knight’s most recent eye-opening column (“SF tourist industry struggles to explain misery to horrified visitors”), tony lodgings like Campton Hotel and Westin St. Francis must operate side by side with a homeless crisis—an epidemic the United Nations recently billed as “cruel.”

In part, Knight reports:

San Francisco’s hotel owners and managers are increasingly frustrated that their gorgeous city, with its many museums, fine restaurants and scenic vistas, has an ever-deteriorating, dismaying flip side to the postcard. In a city that spends $305 million a year to combat homelessness, those who serve as San Francisco’s hosts struggle to explain why the problem isn’t getting any better.

“I actually think it’s the worst it’s ever been,” said Handlery, who’s been in the San Francisco hotel business for 38 years.

And our city’s tourists—who reportedly bring in an estimated $9 billion annually—have taken notice:

Kevin Carroll is the executive director of the Hotel Council of San Francisco, which advocates for 110 hotels. Among hotel managers and owners, “everybody’s talking about it,” he said.

“You see things on the streets that are just not humane,” he said. “People come into hotels saying, ‘What is going on out there?’ They’re just shocked. ... People say, ‘I love your city, I love your restaurants, but I’ll never come back.’”

Knight goes on to note that, while the ongoing crisis has yet to affect the tourist industry’s bottom line, “hotel owners and managers say they’re already noticing some worrying signs.” Among them, a drop in revenue at area hotel parking garages and conventions deciding to hold events elsewhere.

As for how exactly how our local tourism industry deals with it—well, they can’t do much. Other than calling 311 and/or pleading with hotel guests that the city is doing the best it can, the issue is beyond their control.

In related news, a member of the UN Human Rights Council paid a visit to the Bay Area in 2017 to look at the homeless crisis. The conclusion—conditions in San Francisco are “cruel” and “unacceptable,” especially for an area experiencing record levels of wealth.

https://sf.curbed.com/2018/1/30/16952310/tourism-industry-homeless-san-francisco-hotels
 
Can't help them they are citizens, way too many illegal aliens to take care of.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...omeless-population-2017-official-count-crisis

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I work with homeless organizations, I wonder why they are finally admitting it is growing, and had denied it over the last 8 years when it was clearly growing. DO you wonder why?

Don't worry, The Trump GREAT-WONDERFUL-MAGNIFICENT-BEST'est Economy will fix it.

... right after Mexico Pays for that Wall.
 
California has announced itself a sanctuary state so the homeless, including many who are veterans are getting short changed so they can take care of the illegal alien horde.

The question is whether this is a local or federal issue. SF and LA spend hundreds of millions on homelessness. Your suggestion is to just spend more money and it will be cured?
 
Your talking the Tenderloin, know it, spent three days walking to and from the central library, journey

SF has a unique problem because of its attitude toward individual freedoms, but I'd imagine these days with the Silcion Valley invasion it is getting worse with income disparity

Buy them a ticket to Texas

Complex problem given a percentage of homeless have mental problems, and then there are the just the families squeezed out with no place to go. Requires Federal assistence financially, but if they don't come up with new approaches it is not going to change.

People will always visit SF, just stay closer to the waterfront
 
Oh boy, someone is not following along....



The money that would go to those in your pics is siphoned to the sanctuary state.

So you're argument is the hundreds of millions we are spending now isn't sufficient. Just spend more and the problem will be gone?
 
So you're argument is the hundreds of millions we are spending now isn't sufficient. Just spend more and the problem will be gone?




I think the homelessness issue is much larger than throwing money at it. but If you are going to steal my money for programs, I'd rather it go to actual americans than illegal aliens.
 
I think the homelessness issue is much larger than throwing money at it. but If you are going to steal my money for programs, I'd rather it go to actual americans than illegal aliens.

Ok. You can name hundreds of programs we shouldn't be spending money on. Do you have an actual thought on homelessness and whether it should be a local or federal issue?
 
Ok. You can name hundreds of programs we shouldn't be spending money on. Do you have an actual thought on homelessness and whether it should be a local or federal issue?


The problem with it being a local issue, is the locals tend to push it out of their particular "local". ultimately it's a community problem that the community, not government should address. That may be a pipe dream so I believe the state should coordinate with towns to address it. identify it and work with local organizations to address it.
 
The problem with it being a local issue, is the locals tend to push it out of their particular "local". ultimately it's a community problem that the community, not government should address. That may be a pipe dream so I believe the state should coordinate with towns to address it. identify it and work with local organizations to address it.

It depends on the people in the community. I personally don't want a bunch of bums camping out in my community. There are some good people who are down on their luck and deserving of help and compassion. We should try to help them get back on their feet and become productive members of society. There are also people who just want to abuse drugs and alcohol and contribute nothing to society. They should be chased the fuck out.

My opinion, OP, is it should absolutely be controlled at the local level. That way liberals in San Francisco can keep all the bums they have encouraged to live in their community and people in more conservative communities can keep the trash out.
 
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