Hillary Clinton is Barbara Walters' Most Fascinating Person of 2013.

maineman said:
cheney and bill both did what they could to avoid dying in a senseless war in Vietnam... I fault neither of them.
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Clever but wrong again.....Cheney did nothing wrong, illegal, immoral or dishonest.....Clinton did just the opposite....

Cheney and Biden did things the legal way, the right way, the moral way.....they were students and were entitled to the deferments they got....
Billy boy lied and cheated and actively dodged the draft and organized demonstrations in Europe against the US....and thats the truth you can't bring yourself
to type out and post in a clear and unambiguous manner....deep down you're coward to deny the truth....

You fault neither of them ?....Will laddie, you should fault the liar and cheating draft dodger.....and read Col Holmes affidavit slowly and with understanding.

And then you can tell us what that bastard LBJ is responsible for....about 59,000 dead US troops and 154,000 injured....

while you bitch and moan about the Iraq war, in which we won in 21 days....and then suffered some 4,500 killed by terrorists over the next 9 years....

Its time you man up and start the new year with a more open mind. Acute denial could be viewed as a mental illness....
 
They both took what steps they could take to avoid dying in Vietnam... I am critical of neither. You apparently have a different opinion.

Merry Christmas regardless.
 
I am going to go take a quick dip in the pool and then get dressed for the Feast of the Seven Fishes at a friend's home.

Feliz Navidad!
 
NOVA said:
IMO, You're a disgrace to the uniform you wore.......

Clinton's letter to Colonel Eugene Holmes speaks for itself and is unambiguous...he loathe the military.

The affidavit of Col. Holmes, without doubt, explains his feelings about Clinton and the dishonesty Clinton used in his meeting with Holmes to dodge the draft,



and in so doing show is complete and utter cowardice.....
and BTW....Col. Holmes certainly outranks you and is more of a man than you could hope to be in a million lifetimes.....

Incidentally, this is one of the very topics that made me lose all respect for and confidence in snoopes....
Their version of events is very one sided and makes no mention of the affidavit signed by Col. Holmes explaining the events.
They defend Clinton as I suspected they would.
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To be clear, Clinton never said outright that he loathes the military, that's your inference.

"I am writing too in the hope that my telling this one story will help you to understand more clearly how so many fine people have come to find themselves still loving their country but loathing the military, to which you and other good men have devoted years, lifetimes, of the best service you could give."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/clinton/etc/draftletter.html
 
NOVA said:
Cheney didn't dodge the draft.....Clinton did...the Col. knows, only you Clinton apologists are in denial...
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Jeebus, your hackery knows no bounds. You can't look at this list and say that cheney has the moral high ground just because he didn't join the reserves.

Not to mention, YOU joined the navy. You didn't wait around for the selective service system to make you cannon fodder. Not that I'm criticizing that decision but it's pretty hypocritical of you to knock Clinton and not cheney.

Cheney

2/62 1-A available

3/20/63 - 1-S student deferment

7/23/63 - 1-S student deferment

10/14/63 - 1-S student deferment

5/65 - 1-A available

11/1/65 - 1-S student deferment

1/19/66 - 3-A hardship deferment

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/01/politics/campaign/01CHEN.html

Clinton

11/17/64 - 2-S student deferment

1/20/68 - 1-A available

8/7/69 - 1-D reservist deferment

10/30/69 - 1-A available
 
NOVA said:
Clever but wrong again.....Cheney did nothing wrong, illegal, immoral or dishonest.....Clinton did just the opposite....

Cheney and Biden did things the legal way, the right way, the moral way.....they were students and were entitled to the deferments they got....
Billy boy lied and cheated and actively dodged the draft and organized demonstrations in Europe against the US....and thats the truth you can't bring yourself
to type out and post in a clear and unambiguous manner....deep down you're coward to deny the truth....

You fault neither of them ?....Will laddie, you should fault the liar and cheating draft dodger.....and read Col Holmes affidavit slowly and with understanding.

And then you can tell us what that bastard LBJ is responsible for....about 59,000 dead US troops and 154,000 injured....

while you bitch and moan about the Iraq war, in which we won in 21 days....and then suffered some 4,500 killed by terrorists over the next 9 years....

Its time you man up and start the new year with a more open mind. Acute denial could be viewed as a mental illness....
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If Clinton did something "illegal", why wasn't he prosecuted?
 
1966stang said:
In your alternative universe we also like really young boys too!
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hey man you are new so you may not have been totally familiarized with all the rules yet but we don't tolerate insinuations like that and routinely ban for them all the time. It's basically 1 of 2 rules we take very seriously. Just be more careful in the future. For reference we are referring to rule 12(b) which you can find on the rules page.
 
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