Herman Cain Joins 2012 GOP Race

Yurt said:
Cain served on the board of directors throughout Aquila's ill-fated trading misadventure and the subsequent collapse of the company's retirement fund. In fact, he chaired the board's compensation committee, which, according to the lawsuit, had direct oversight of the push to get employees to invest more and more in Aquila stock. As chair of the compensation committee, Cain also saw fit to dole out $30 million in bonuses, not including stock options, to the top five execs at Aquila in 2002, with the company's stock plummeting.
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Again, are you knowledgeable of ALL the details? Or, are you formulating an opinion based on what you read here, or more importantly, what you are being told? Oh it sounds so awful... imagine a financial executive encouraging employees to buy stock in the company they work for? That's just crazy, isn't it? I can't imagine why anyone would do such a thing, knowing the company was going under....probably because it's not rational or reasonable to imagine such a thing. It's the kind of mindless stupidity we have running around in America these days, articulating their stupid and mindless opinions as if they are facts. You and I don't know all the facts here, we have a story... by a journalist... designed to imply something by insinuating all kinds of shit that may or may not be TRUE! And based on that pile of bullshit alone, we have absolute morons who can VOTE, formulating their opinion of Herman Cain.

Stop drinking the Kool Aid!
 
Dixie said:
Again, are you knowledgeable of ALL the details? Or, are you formulating an opinion based on what you read here, or more importantly, what you are being told? Oh it sounds so awful... imagine a financial executive encouraging employees to buy stock in the company they work for? That's just crazy, isn't it? I can't imagine why anyone would do such a thing, knowing the company was going under....probably because it's not rational or reasonable to imagine such a thing. It's the kind of mindless stupidity we have running around in America these days, articulating their stupid and mindless opinions as if they are facts. You and I don't know all the facts here, we have a story... by a journalist... designed to imply something by insinuating all kinds of shit that may or may not be TRUE! And based on that pile of bullshit alone, we have absolute morons who can VOTE, formulating their opinion of Herman Cain.

Stop drinking the Kool Aid!
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pointing out what appears to be a fact, according ot the lawsuit is drinking kool aid? anytime someone says something you don't likie, they are either a liberal, hack, or drinking kool aid...and in this case...i didn't say anythaing, i referenced the lawsuit because you asked a question about his responsibility. you are so sensitive anytime someone says anything about anyone on the right or merely points out a fact to you, you always get so upset and resort to your usaual extreme bantering....

i already opined in the other thread that it doesn't look good....but that i don't know all the facts. it seems that they have a good SH case. and according to the lawsuit....cain chaired the committee that was heavily involved in getting employees to invest....it depends on how much he and the company knew.

next time someone links information to a question you ask, if you don't like it, don't have a cow
 
Yurt said:
pointing out what appears to be a fact, according ot the lawsuit is drinking kool aid? anytime someone says something you don't likie, they are either a liberal, hack, or drinking kool aid...and in this case...i didn't say anythaing, i referenced the lawsuit because you asked a question about his responsibility. you are so sensitive anytime someone says anything about anyone on the right or merely points out a fact to you, you always get so upset and resort to your usaual extreme bantering....

i already opined in the other thread that it doesn't look good....but that i don't know all the facts. it seems that they have a good SH case. and according to the lawsuit....cain chaired the committee that was heavily involved in getting employees to invest....it depends on how much he and the company knew.

next time someone links information to a question you ask, if you don't like it, don't have a cow
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I can point out facts too, but it doesn't make them relevant to how we consider someone's character or judgment by default. Unless you KNOW all the details, specifically from HIS side and HIS point of view, how can you even evaluate whether any of this is FACTUAL? You are assuming since there was a lawsuit and this was brought out.... blah blah... that doesn't prove a FACT. You make a speculative judgement based on the narrative. Here's a story which sounds like Cain did something unethical, or incompetent... I'm not sure which, maybe a little of both... but you don't know ALL THE DETAILS! Were you at the trial? Did you hear ALL the evidence? Do you even know the other side of the story? Nope... you have formulated your astute and brilliant opinion on the narrative of the story, as presented by the left-wing media in America. And now you are here to post it for other mindless twits to glum onto and praise you for bringing this to light. Well done!
 
Dixie said:
Again, are you knowledgeable of ALL the details? Or, are you formulating an opinion based on what you read here, or more importantly, what you are being told? Oh it sounds so awful... imagine a financial executive encouraging employees to buy stock in the company they work for? That's just crazy, isn't it? I can't imagine why anyone would do such a thing, knowing the company was going under....probably because it's not rational or reasonable to imagine such a thing...
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Yeah...it does sound horrible...how HORRIBLE to expect someone working in the rarified air of corporate boardrooms to do their job without putting the entire corporation and it's employees at risk.


Dixie said:
It's the kind of mindless stupidity we have running around in America these days, articulating their stupid and mindless opinions as if they are facts...
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How apropos...the above sentence perfectly describes how most here view your comments and posts...


Dixie said:
You and I don't know all the facts here, we have a story... by a journalist... designed to imply something by insinuating all kinds of shit that may or may not be TRUE!
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Way to softpedal that nonsense in order to cover up for your new GoldenBoy!

Dixie said:
And based on that pile of bullshit alone, we have absolute morons who can VOTE, formulating their opinion of Herman Cain.

Stop drinking the Kool Aid!
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We have morons who can vote and who have professed a desire to vote for Cain based on nothing more than their hatred for president Obama.
 
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Dixie said:
I can point out facts too, but it doesn't make them relevant to how we consider someone's character or judgment by default. Unless you KNOW all the details, specifically from HIS side and HIS point of view, how can you even evaluate whether any of this is FACTUAL? You are assuming since there was a lawsuit and this was brought out.... blah blah... that doesn't prove a FACT. You make a speculative judgement based on the narrative. Here's a story which sounds like Cain did something unethical, or incompetent... I'm not sure which, maybe a little of both... but you don't know ALL THE DETAILS! Were you at the trial? Did you hear ALL the evidence? Do you even know the other side of the story? Nope... you have formulated your astute and brilliant opinion on the narrative of the story, as presented by the left-wing media in America. And now you are here to post it for other mindless twits to glum onto and praise you for bringing this to light. Well done!
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Dixie said:
Yes, I guess, when you are ONE member on a board, you DO have some limited responsibility. But how much, and how fair is it to hold him accountable? Do you know all the details? Maybe he was the only board member to oppose this stuff? Do you know he wasn't? Or are you simply speculating mindlessly, that since he sat on the board, he is somehow totally responsible for all the board did?

And let me clue you in on something else, successful people, in general, have some failures in their past. It is just the nature of the beast, because to be successful at ANYTHING, you have to be willing to take some risk. Anyone who takes risks, is going to fail at some point, it is the law of averages at play, nothing more. Now, repeated and consistent failure... like what we observe with Socialism... that's a different matter. But to somehow expect to find some brilliant person who has been a total and complete success at everything their whole life, and has never failed at anything they tried.... well, that get's you a President Obama, in my opinion.
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It is not failure that bothers me. It is the way the company did business in an unethical manner that bothers me.
 
Dixie said:
I can point out facts too, but it doesn't make them relevant to how we consider someone's character or judgment by default. Unless you KNOW all the details, specifically from HIS side and HIS point of view, how can you even evaluate whether any of this is FACTUAL? You are assuming since there was a lawsuit and this was brought out.... blah blah... that doesn't prove a FACT. You make a speculative judgement based on the narrative. Here's a story which sounds like Cain did something unethical, or incompetent... I'm not sure which, maybe a little of both... but you don't know ALL THE DETAILS! Were you at the trial? Did you hear ALL the evidence? Do you even know the other side of the story? Nope... you have formulated your astute and brilliant opinion on the narrative of the story, as presented by the left-wing media in America. And now you are here to post it for other mindless twits to glum onto and praise you for bringing this to light. Well done!
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Its funny that you are willing to convict liberals and democrats on rumor alone, but let someone bring up valid questions about someone you back and you are all about "you don't know all the details".
 
"Pressed by Chris Wallace on “Fox News Sunday” about why his Hermanator Political Action Committee (PAC) had only $13 in it at the end of March, Cain said he has a new PAC with more money in it....“The Hermanator PAC, we ceased that at the end of January — at the end of December. So, the people who are looking at the Hermanator PAC account, that's inactive account,” he said. “We opened up a new one called Friends of Herman Cain, which we will file July 15, according to the FEC.”

But Cain declined to say how much money his new PAC has raised.

“I could, but I won't, Chris, because I don't want my competition to know,” he said. “But I do, I can tell you -- we are not broke. We are not broke. The PAC account ended December. That's why it shows $13. Friends of Herman is doing just fine. But we need more.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/162533-cain-my-campaign-coffers-are-not-empty
 
Cain will stay around longer than that pussy raghead trumpet. It will be gloriously funny with this gaff machine.
 
Topspin said:
Cain will stay around longer than that pussy raghead trumpet. It will be gloriously funny with this gaff machine.
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Don't be too sure, Trumptard said today he wouldn't rule out coming back into the race, because the current crop (like Cain) are all losers.
 
WinterBorn said:
It is not failure that bothers me. It is the way the company did business in an unethical manner that bothers me.
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How do you know it was "unethical?" Is that also based on a one-sided story of what happened? The point is, you are reading an article from a journalist who is attempting to paint a particular picture, a specific viewpoint on what went down. This doesn't mean he/she is wrong, but it certainly doesn't mean what they write is empirical fact. It's odd to me, if Cain were such an unethical cad, why did corporations continue to hire him and promote him? Doesn't that seem a little strange to you.... I mean, unless you are under the koolaid-induced delusion that ALL corporate leaders are unethical cads!

WinterBorn said:
Its funny that you are willing to convict liberals and democrats on rumor alone, but let someone bring up valid questions about someone you back and you are all about "you don't know all the details".
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No, you have me mistaken for someone else. I very seldom ever put any stock in rumors or speculation, I need to see the facts... all of the facts. As for questions, I have no problem with anyone putting up a valid question about Herman Cain.... you got one??? Because, this isn't really "a question" but more of a half-assed smear, perpetrated by the liberal left, because they fear Cain's charisma and ability to inspire an audience. You are such a fucking moron, you can't even see what they are doing anymore, when someone is pointing it out to you and rubbing your nose in it. This is typical left-wing political hackery at its best! Throw out some obscure irrelevant event from the past, and formulate a bunch of absolutely baseless assumptions, and condemn the man in the court of public opinion before he ever gets started. That's what you are willfully participating in, proving to the rest of the world, what a gullible and naive electorate we really have.
 
Cain, who has never held elective office, may have also given the impression that his foreign policy skills are not very strong. ​
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He looked like he was scrambling for an answer at first when Chris Wallace, the moderator, asked him his position on the “right of return,” a contentious demand by Palestinians that the millions of descendants of Arab refugees that fled during the 1948 Arab-Israeli War be allowed to return to Israel.​



“That’s something that should be negotiated,” he said.​



And — as he’s done before — he refused to lay out his own detailed plan for the war in Afghanistan, saying he doesn’t have the information at his disposal that the president has. He said he would need to see it before formulating a “responsible plan.”​








Of course, he crawfished...I mean "clarified" his statement on the Palestinian Right of Return, later....​



How about his plan to put the US back on the gold standard?​



Or his "forgetfulness" about his role in the Aquila fiasco?​



What about his belief that rape and incest victims must be forced to give birth?​


 
Stupid knows no color.

"I love it when the skeptics want to criticize me because of lack of foreign policy experience. I know that you don't throw your friends under the bus. You don't need to have years in the State Department to figure that out.​
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The right of return, the right of return?”​
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Late last night, the Cain campaign was out with a statement, that expressed a position and looked to minimize the damage of the blunder.

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/55484.html#ixzz1NEEBv7y4​
 
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