Herman Cain Joins 2012 GOP Race

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Herman Cain Joins 2012 GOP Race

Tea Party favorite Herman Cain announced his long-shot presidential candidacy to a raucous crowd in Atlanta Saturday, yelling, "I'm running for president of the United States and I'm not running for second."

At a rally attended by thousands, the businessman, author and talk radio show host showed he knows how to wow a conservative gathering. The crowd chanted, "Herman, Herman, Herman," as Cain unleashed the same soaring rhetoric and relentless attacks on President Obama that has created buzz in recent weeks.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/21/businessman-herman-cain-set-join-2012-gop-race/

the race just got more interesting

:corn:
 
..."former Godfather Pizza executive Herman Cain joined his fellow Republican presidential contenders in slamming the president for his approach to the region.


In an interview with Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday, Mr. Cain –widely considered to be a long-shot contender for the Republican Presidential nomination – appeared to be somewhat confused by the idea of the Palestinian “right of return” to Israeli territory.

The “right of return” is among the many seemingly unbridgeable divides in the Arab-Israeli conflict, and a concept to which Israel is firmly opposed.


Just this week, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that the return of Palestinian refugees to Israel is “not going to happen. Everybody knows it’s not going to happen.”


When asked about his stance on the matter, Cain appeared confused.


CAIN: Right of return? Right of return?


WALLACE: The Palestinian right of return.


CAIN: That's something that should be negotiated.


When asked again about whether he believes in the Palestinian right of return, Cain seemed unclear about the Israeli position on the matter, as well as his own.


CAIN: Yes, but under - but not under - Palestinian conditions. Yes. They should have a right to come back if that is a decision that Israel wants to make…. I don't think they have a big problem with people returning.



Despite his confusion on matters of foreign policy, Candidate Cain is adamant that he is in it to win it. Announcing his candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination on Saturday in Atlanta, Cain proclaimed, “I am not running for second.”


Nope, Herman. You’re running for loser. Keep up the good work.








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http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/05/herman-cain-blunders-on-palestinian-right-of-return.html
 
..."former Godfather Pizza executive Herman Cain joined his fellow Republican presidential contenders in slamming the president for his approach to the region.


In an interview with Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday, Mr. Cain –widely considered to be a long-shot contender for the Republican Presidential nomination – appeared to be somewhat confused by the idea of the Palestinian “right of return” to Israeli territory.

The “right of return” is among the many seemingly unbridgeable divides in the Arab-Israeli conflict, and a concept to which Israel is firmly opposed.


Just this week, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that the return of Palestinian refugees to Israel is “not going to happen. Everybody knows it’s not going to happen.”


When asked about his stance on the matter, Cain appeared confused.


CAIN: Right of return? Right of return?


WALLACE: The Palestinian right of return.


CAIN: That's something that should be negotiated.


When asked again about whether he believes in the Palestinian right of return, Cain seemed unclear about the Israeli position on the matter, as well as his own.


CAIN: Yes, but under - but not under - Palestinian conditions. Yes. They should have a right to come back if that is a decision that Israel wants to make…. I don't think they have a big problem with people returning.



Despite his confusion on matters of foreign policy, Candidate Cain is adamant that he is in it to win it. Announcing his candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination on Saturday in Atlanta, Cain proclaimed, “I am not running for second.”


Nope, Herman. You’re running for loser. Keep up the good work.








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http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/05/herman-cain-blunders-on-palestinian-right-of-return.html

lmao....nobody paid attention to your stupid herman cain thread and so you had to double post this post here, in the hopes someone pays attention to your far left wing hack nonsense sites.....i don't read 95% of your stupid links (no matter how big you make the font in the hopes you aren't ignored like you routinely are) and i suspect that goes for that majority of the board

try debating with your own words and thoughts for a chance....you don't need to rely on others to tell how you must think, learn to think for yourself, you don't need 80 or 90% of your posts to be other people's thoughts....

you're welcome
 
"Cain appeared confused over 'right of return'" ...LOL, at least he didn't say something boneheaded, like "let's go back to the pre-67 borders!"

The point Cain made which pinheads won't post about, was that this is Israel's deal to negotiate, not ours! You libtardians should understand this, you breathlessly preached it for 8 years under Bush, we don't 'nation-build' ...we need to stay out of the affairs of other countries and let them deal with things in their own way. Now suddenly, with Obama unable to stop himself from meddling in the affairs of others, you pinheads think it's brilliant. Amazing!
 
"Cain appeared confused over 'right of return'" ...LOL, at least he didn't say something boneheaded, like "let's go back to the pre-67 borders!"

The point Cain made which pinheads won't post about, was that this is Israel's deal to negotiate, not ours! You libtardians should understand this, you breathlessly preached it for 8 years under Bush, we don't 'nation-build' ...we need to stay out of the affairs of other countries and let them deal with things in their own way. Now suddenly, with Obama unable to stop himself from meddling in the affairs of others, you pinheads think it's brilliant. Amazing!



CAIN: Yes, but under - but not under - Palestinian conditions. Yes. They should have a right to come back if that is a decision that Israel wants to make…. I don't think they have a big problem with people returning.




You might want to check Israel's position on ROR.




No doubt you support Herman's opposition to all abortion, even in cases of rape and incest, too. Right?
 
I am a fan of Herman Cain. But there is a tidbit that may screw him royally.

From: http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/05/herman-cain-aquila-lawsuit-2012

"Founded in 1917 as Green Light and Power, Aquila traditionally made its money operating electric and gas plants and selling the energy they produced. In the years after Cain joined the board, Aquila's earnings climbed, from $254 million in 1995 to $351 million in 1998. Then, in early 1999, the company's leadership decided running power plants wasn't lucrative enough; energy trading and speculation had grown popular, and as the class suit lays out, Aquila wanted a piece of the action.

It was a dangerous move—as a company spokesman later put it, "the risk was huge." In the end, it proved disastrous. Aquila's decision to join Enron, Reliant Energy, and the other heavy-hitters in the energy trading markets would ultimately wipe out 94 percent of Aquila's stock value between 1999 and 2004. The company also faced criticism for using some of the same trading tricks that Enron did as a way to puff up its stock price, the lawsuit says. That included using "roundtrip" trades, a scheme in which Aquila would sell a trading partner some energy and then that partner would sell the same amount back to Aquila, a deal that canceled itself out. In the end, nothing actually changed hands. But it boosted Aquila's trading volume and revenue, sending a positive signal to the markets. The company also engaged in megawatt laundering, or "ricochet" trading, the lawsuit alleges. In such transactions, Aquila and other companies would buy energy from California at a lower capped price, move that energy out of the state, then re-sell it back to California at a higher price for a tidy profit.

But this financial trickery couldn't save a listing ship. In 2002, Aquila teetered on the brink of collapse. And for Aquila's employees, the result of the company's foray into energy trading was devastating: The company's employee retirement fund, overseen by the board of directors, lost more than $200 million in 2002. The reason: At the same time Aquila's executives and directors were investing more and more in highly risky energy speculation, they were selling their employees on the conservative nature of Aquila and pushing them to invest their retirement savings in company stock.

For years, the lawsuit says, executives urged employees in company speeches to reinvest in Aquila, lauded those who did so as "Aquila partners," and even offered a 15 percent discount to buy company stock. Executives and board members also made it more difficult to sell off company stock by implementing lock-up periods, during which employees couldn't cash in their holdings. At the end of 2000, 85 percent of Aquila employees owned common stock in the company. What's more, 60 percent of the employees' retirement fund consisted of Aquila stock—even though financial experts say that total should never be more than 10 to 20 percent."




More at the link.
 
Okay, first of all, I doubt Cain sitting on a board meant that they did exactly everything Cain told them to do, and this was all the result of his blunders in decision making. That's the narrative, that's what the lefties want you to think when you hear this story, are you stupid enough to think that way? If that's so, you're not going to find anyone to vote for this election, except Obama, who can do no wrong. Every person on the right who declares themselves a candidate for the presidency, is going to be inundated with this kind of garbage. Some obscure "failure" they had at some point in time, which is supposed to make you think they are inferior to the supreme one in the Oval Office. The question is, are you stupid enough to fall for it?
 
Okay, first of all, I doubt Cain sitting on a board meant that they did exactly everything Cain told them to do, and this was all the result of his blunders in decision making. That's the narrative, that's what the lefties want you to think when you hear this story, are you stupid enough to think that way? If that's so, you're not going to find anyone to vote for this election, except Obama, who can do no wrong. Every person on the right who declares themselves a candidate for the presidency, is going to be inundated with this kind of garbage. Some obscure "failure" they had at some point in time, which is supposed to make you think they are inferior to the supreme one in the Oval Office. The question is, are you stupid enough to fall for it?

Sitting on the board does not mean every did what he wanted. But it does put him in a position of responsibility.
 
Sitting on the board does not mean every did what he wanted. But it does put him in a position of responsibility.


Yes, I guess, when you are ONE member on a board, you DO have some limited responsibility. But how much, and how fair is it to hold him accountable? Do you know all the details? Maybe he was the only board member to oppose this stuff? Do you know he wasn't? Or are you simply speculating mindlessly, that since he sat on the board, he is somehow totally responsible for all the board did?

And let me clue you in on something else, successful people, in general, have some failures in their past. It is just the nature of the beast, because to be successful at ANYTHING, you have to be willing to take some risk. Anyone who takes risks, is going to fail at some point, it is the law of averages at play, nothing more. Now, repeated and consistent failure... like what we observe with Socialism... that's a different matter. But to somehow expect to find some brilliant person who has been a total and complete success at everything their whole life, and has never failed at anything they tried.... well, that get's you a President Obama, in my opinion.
 
Yes, I guess, when you are ONE member on a board, you DO have some limited responsibility. But how much, and how fair is it to hold him accountable? Do you know all the details? Maybe he was the only board member to oppose this stuff? Do you know he wasn't? Or are you simply speculating mindlessly, that since he sat on the board, he is somehow totally responsible for all the board did?

And let me clue you in on something else, successful people, in general, have some failures in their past. It is just the nature of the beast, because to be successful at ANYTHING, you have to be willing to take some risk. Anyone who takes risks, is going to fail at some point, it is the law of averages at play, nothing more. Now, repeated and consistent failure... like what we observe with Socialism... that's a different matter. But to somehow expect to find some brilliant person who has been a total and complete success at everything their whole life, and has never failed at anything they tried.... well, that get's you a President Obama, in my opinion.

Cain served on the board of directors throughout Aquila's ill-fated trading misadventure and the subsequent collapse of the company's retirement fund. In fact, he chaired the board's compensation committee, which, according to the lawsuit, had direct oversight of the push to get employees to invest more and more in Aquila stock. As chair of the compensation committee, Cain also saw fit to dole out $30 million in bonuses, not including stock options, to the top five execs at Aquila in 2002, with the company's stock plummeting.
 
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