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reaching net-zero emissions means not just having snazzy electric cars and shiny solar power plants, but also eliminating the carbon footprints of the steel and cement used to make them.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-scrub-emissions-from-carbon-heavy-industries
special presidential envoy for climate, to scrub notoriously dirty industries, according to a list seen by Bloomberg Green. Shipping behemoth A.P. Moller - Maersk A/S, commodity giant Trafigura Group Pte. Ltd. and leading global cement maker Holcim Ltd. are among those in the First Movers Coalition set to launch in the coming weeks at the COP26 climate summit in Glasgow, Scotland.

The U.S. State Department and the World Economic Forum are teaming up to persuade global titans to commit to buying low-carbon products by 2030 or sooner in a bid to accelerate the push to meet climate goals and help develop greener supply chains. The full list of coalition members will be announced at COP26.

The commitments will target four sectors initially: aviation, shipping, steel and trucking. Technologies to cut pollution from them exists, such as sustainable jet fuel, ships running on methanol, steel made from green hydrogen and electric trucks.
 
But those solutions often are a lot more expensive than fossil fuel-reliant routes, and the product supply isn’t always available at scale.

new technologies follow a learning curve. As engineers build more solar panels or lithium-ion batteries, they learn how to make them better and cheaper. While government policies have helped some high-profile solutions like EVs ride that curve quickly, many of the most-polluting businesses haven’t received that kind of support.

Emerging technologies are forecast to account for 50% of the reductions in emissions in 2050, when the world should hit net zero to keep warming below 1.5 degrees Celsius relative to pre-industrial times. Increasing demand for greener alternatives will lower their price tag and help decarbonize the supply chains of the four segments cited by the coalition.
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And large companies can make those commitments today without breaking the bank.
For example, using green steel would add only about $180, or about 1%, to a car’s sticker price, according to the Energy Transitions Commission. Using a zero-carbon ship to carry a $60 pair of jeans would cost an extra 30 cents.

“There is a chicken-and-egg problem for products from hard-to-abate sectors. Supply or demand, what comes first?” said David Hostert, head of research for EMEA at BloombergNEF. “Purchase commitments give the demand signal that can go a fair way to help these industries scale.”

In Europe, many of these emissions-heavy industries face higher carbon bills after permit prices on the European Union’s emissions trading system doubled this year. That surge already acts as a stick forcing companies to decarbonize, Hostert said. Purchase commitments could be the carrot.


Later in 2022, FMC will expand its remit to cover another four polluting sectors: aluminum, cement, chemicals and direct air capture. Industry-led efforts will be critical for handling the actual work of developing clean alternatives to carbon-intensive materials like steel or cement,
 
Sweden is currently leading the world in the commercialisation of large-scale green steel production, with its H2 Green Steel plant, established in 2020, set to start producing steel from green hydrogen in 2024
https://cosmosmagazine.com/technolo...re-we-going-to-be-able-to-make-it-at-whyalla/

Gupta launched a three-month review of the Whyalla plant in June 2020, aiming to identify cost-savings measures to replace the blast furnace currently powered by the highly polluting coking, or metallurgical, coal (a type of coal used to make the essential raw material for making steel – a hard, porous substance made up of 90% carbon) with a $1 billion-plus modern steel-making facility by 2024.

The centrepiece of his plan is to switch to making hydrogen using electricity generated by local wind and solar power, and to use that hydrogen instead of coking coal to produce steel.

bundant, cheap and clean burning, hydrogen is being hailed as the fuel of the future and has become the priority low-emissions technology for Australia. Producing clean hydrogen under $2 per kilogram (‘H2 under 2’) is a priority stretch goal under the government’s first Low Emissions Technology Statement.

If produced using low- or zero-emissions sources, hydrogen can decarbonise the energy and industrial sectors, which combined are responsible for nearly 75% of global greenhouse gas emissions. The energy used to produce iron and steel alone makes up just over 7%.

According to a 2018 CSIRO report, hydrogen’s potential uses include making green steel by using it as a reducing agent rather than coal, powering electric cars and trucks, powering container ships (using liquid ammonia made from hydrogen), powering electricity-generating turbines, and even for cooking and heating homes.

Dr Jessica Allen, an energy researcher at the University of Newcastle, says that when she was completing her PhD in using solar thermal technology for large-scale production of hydrogen in 2010, she was told hydrogen was “over”.

“While technology in the area was being advanced, I saw there was no real political will or funding to get things done in that field,” she says.

oday, the sentiment is much different: all Australian states recognise hydrogen as a clean energy source, and all have committed to transforming their economies in a way to reflect that reality.

But not all hydrogen is clean or green – it all depends on how it’s produced.

Allen says we need to think of hydrogen according to three colour categories: “grey”, as extracted from fossil fuels such as coal or natural gas, which produces CO2 that’s emitted into the atmosphere; “blue”, much the same as grey, but with the CO2 emissions captured; and “green” – the clean alternative, where hydrogen is produced using electricity through a process called electrolysis, which splits water into hydrogen and oxygen.

If the electricity used to do this comes from renewable sources (solar and wind power), the process doesn’t produce any CO2.
What is green
 
With much fanfare, Gupta launched a three-month review of the Whyalla plant in June 2020, aiming to identify cost-savings measures to replace the blast furnace currently powered by the highly polluting coking, or metallurgical, coal (a type of coal used to make the essential raw material for making steel – a hard, porous substance made up of 90% carbon) with a $1 billion-plus modern steel-making facility by 2024.

The centrepiece of his plan is to switch to making hydrogen using electricity generated by local wind and solar power, and to use that hydrogen instead of coking coal to produce steel.

If produced using low- or zero-emissions sources, hydrogen can decarbonise the energy and industrial sectors, which combined are responsible for nearly 75% of global greenhouse gas emissions. The energy used to produce iron and steel alone makes up just over 7%.

According to a 2018 CSIRO report, hydrogen’s potential uses include making green steel by using it as a reducing agent rather than coal, powering electric cars and trucks, powering container ships (using liquid ammonia made from hydrogen), powering electricity-generating turbines, and even for cooking and heating homes.


ll Australian states recognise hydrogen as a clean energy source, and all have committed to transforming their economies in a way to reflect that reality.

But not all hydrogen is clean or green – it all depends on how it’s produced.

Allen says we need to think of hydrogen according to three colour categories: “grey”, as extracted from fossil fuels such as coal or natural gas, which produces CO2 that’s emitted into the atmosphere; “blue”, much the same as grey, but with the CO2 emissions captured; and “green” – the clean alternative, where hydrogen is produced using electricity through a process called electrolysis, which splits water into hydrogen and oxygen.

If the electricity used to do this comes from renewable sources (solar and wind power), the process doesn’t produce any CO2.
It’s not widely appreciated, but steel – the sinew of the modern world – doesn’t just require lots of coal-powered electricity for its manufacture. Steel itself is normally made using coal. If we want to green the world, finding a way to make steel without coal – “green steel” – is essential.

Regular ‘old’ steel is made mostly from iron ores (essentially oxygen and iron atoms bonded together as iron oxides), something which Australia has in abundance. According to the US Geological Survey, Australia has the world’s largest reserves of iron ore at 48 billion tonnes (followed by Brazil at 29 billion tonnes). To put that in perspective,48 billion tonnes would fill the Melbourne Cricket Ground to the top of the stands – about 4000 times.

The production of pig iron in a blast furnace, the first step in making steel, uses coke – the product that emerges after metallurgical coal has been ground up and heated to about 980°C, a process that separates out other matter such as oil, tar, nitrogen and grey hydrogen.
850 dsc3286 21Steel processing. Credit: SSAB

The blast furnace gives us pig iron, and it also yields about two tonnes of CO2 per tonne of steel.

The pig iron still needs to go through another process called basic oxygen steelmaking to become steel and this adds more greenhouse gas emissions.

It’s also possible to melt scrap steel and make new steel in an electric arc furnace (EAF). The EAF produces liquid steel, which can then be cast and fashioned into different products depending on industry needs (such as rails, construction beams etc).
This is a much more sustainable process (being part of the circular economy) and produces about quarter the CO2 emissions (0.5 tonnes of CO2 per tonne of steel) depending on how green the electricity is. Problem is, there isn’t enough scrap steel available to meet demand, and quality issues arise as steel is recycled again and again.
So can Whyalla transform into a green steel production?

For Whyalla to become completely green, it would need to replace its current blast furnace production with a direct reduction plant (running on green hydrogen) and an electric arc furnace (running on renewable energy), says Professor Tom Honeyands, the director of Newcastle University’s ARC research hub for advanced technologies for Australian iron ore.

“They have a source of iron-ore pellets available which would suit this process route,” Honeyands says, adding that they would employ a similar process to the one developed in Sweden called Hybrit, co-owned by Swedish companies SSAB, a steelmaker; state-owned utility Vattenfall; and miner LKAB.

“However, the scale of hydrogen production would be an issue.”
you have iron ore pellets, you can make direct reduced iron (DRI) instead. Direct reduction means stripping the oxygen out of the iron ore using hydrogen and carbon monoxide gas to get metallic iron, which can then be melted in an electric arc furnace along with scrap.

Honeyands says the most common DRI process in the world is the Midrex process, named for the US technology company that developed it. Right now, the grey hydrogen and carbon monoxide gas used in the process come from natural gas, and the process still generates about one tonne of CO2 per tonne of steel.

But in future, the Midrex process could be tweaked to run on more and more green hydrogen as it becomes available. Combined with green electricity, it will provide a path to make green steel with essentially zero CO2 emissions, just like the Hybrit technology.
https://cosmosmagazine.com/technolo...re-we-going-to-be-able-to-make-it-at-whyalla/

In the long-term, green steel made with hydrogen is likely to compete on cost with traditional steel. In the shorter term, governments and companies may be willing to pay a premium as part of their climate commitments, says Michael Lord, expert advisor to Australian think tank Beyond Zero Emissions.

“From a purely commercial point of view, it will be more expensive to produce steel this way in the short term,” Lord says.
 
WTF is this? real in terms of costs or not? Buehler ? anyone?

It's more unaffordable bullshit form the Greentards. First, they can't even come close to proving it has any actual value on the environment. On the other hand, the increased cost of well, everything made with steel or somehow related to steel is just more inflation that people have to deal with. 1% more inflation is just that much less people have, particularly the poor and marginal in the economy. It is as if the radical Left wants to ass rape the poor in the name of environmentalism.
 
It's more unaffordable bullshit form the Greentards. First, they can't even come close to proving it has any actual value on the environment. On the other hand, the increased cost of well, everything made with steel or somehow related to steel is just more inflation that people have to deal with. 1% more inflation is just that much less people have, particularly the poor and marginal in the economy. It is as if the radical Left wants to ass rape the poor in the name of environmentalism.
so this is all Davos posturing of buying commitments?
There a bit in there about Australia and Sweden actually trying to launch....
 
so this is all Davos posturing of buying commitments?
There a bit in there about Australia and Sweden actually trying to launch....

Pretty much. I'd expect countries like China to simply say they're doing it while lying their asses off and making "whatever" steel. They aren't the only one, but those countries will sell you steel that doesn't meet spec in a nanosecond while claiming it does.
 
Take the number of years the Save The Planet types say it should take to do something and multiply by five to get a realistic target date.
 
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