Gov't investigates health insurance company mailer

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Gov't investigates health insurance company mailer


Sep 21, 1:01 PM (ET)

By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR

WASHINGTON (AP) - The government is investigating a major insurance company for allegedly trying to scare seniors with a mailer warning they could lose important benefits under health care legislation in Congress.

The Health and Human Services Department launched its investigation of Humana after getting a complaint from Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., a senior lawmaker usually viewed as a reliable ally of the insurance industry.

"It is wholly unacceptable for insurance companies to mislead seniors regarding any subject - particularly on a subject as important to them, and to the nation, as health care reform," Baucus said Monday, disclosing the HHS investigation.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090921/D9ARR2LG0.html
 
Argh.

Where's Yurt to say the Democrats are just as guilty of fear mongering as the forces working against healthcare reform?
 
Argh.

Where's Yurt to say the Democrats are just as guilty of fear mongering as the forces working against healthcare reform?

Argh is right. Has anybody thrown the name Wendell Potter out for the righties to choke on? On Bill Moyers' show, he made the statement, repeated on Countdown and Rachel Maddow's show that the insurance industry was flat-out lying to the American public about universal health care systems, especially those in Canada and the U.K., andf that Michael Moore had both exactly right in his documentary film, "Sicko."

Since Potter was the VP for corporate relations at Signa, one of the world's largest insurance companies, and therefore knows whereof he speaks, you'd think that particular piece of news would have been a slam-dunk and changed a few minds.

Then again, the right-wing cretin's ability to miss the fact right in front of his uncomprehending face in favor of the falsehood for which there isn't a shred of empirical evidence, bespeaks a level of congenital idiocy I can't even begin to imagine, let alone empathize. How does one reach a mind so like concrete (ie, all mixed up and permanently set), and set it free with the truth? Will a Rockwell-Kango electric demolition hammer do the trick, or are we going to have to rent a 110 lb. pneumatic jackhammer w/ diesel compressor on a trailer and do either of you have a car or truck with a trailer hitch?
 
Argh is right. Has anybody thrown the name Wendell Potter out for the righties to choke on? On Bill Moyers' show, he made the statement, repeated on Countdown and Rachel Maddow's show that the insurance industry was flat-out lying to the American public about universal health care systems, especially those in Canada and the U.K., andf that Michael Moore had both exactly right in his documentary film, "Sicko."

Since Potter was the VP for corporate relations at Signa, one of the world's largest insurance companies, and therefore knows whereof he speaks, you'd think that particular piece of news would have been a slam-dunk and changed a few minds.

Then again, the right-wing cretin's ability to miss the fact right in front of his uncomprehending face in favor of the falsehood for which there isn't a shred of empirical evidence, bespeaks a level of congenital idiocy I can't even begin to imagine, let alone empathize. How does one reach a mind so like concrete (ie, all mixed up and permanently set), and set it free with the truth? Will a Rockwell-Kango electric demolition hammer do the trick, or are we going to have to rent a 110 lb. pneumatic jackhammer w/ diesel compressor on a trailer and do either of you have a car or truck with a trailer hitch?

I thought it was bad on AOL but rightwing nuts on here are even worse in some cases.
 
I am puzzled....as I understand HR3200, they intend to fund it by means of reducing payments to hospitals and doctors under Medicare by $500billion......does anyone here believe that this will NOT reduce the benefits that seniors are receiving?.....

how then is the letter that Humana sent out a misrepresentation?......

don't get me wrong....I think there should be an "investigation".....there should be an investigation into how the government will succeed in reducing payments by $500 billion without reducing benefits....we need to know if it is Humana that is misleading seniors or Baucus who is misleading seniors.......
 
I am puzzled....as I understand HR3200, they intend to fund it by means of reducing payments to hospitals and doctors under Medicare by $500billion......does anyone here believe that this will NOT reduce the benefits that seniors are receiving?.....

how then is the letter that Humana sent out a misrepresentation?......

don't get me wrong....I think there should be an "investigation".....there should be an investigation into how the government will succeed in reducing payments by $500 billion without reducing benefits....we need to know if it is Humana that is misleading seniors or Baucus who is misleading seniors.......

Agreed. Indeed it seems that HHS is being used as the muscle in this case. Links at site:

http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2009/09/the_feds_attack.html

The Feds' Attack on Freedom of Speech
David Henderson

Not the Fed, as in Bernanke, but the Feds, as in the federal government.

Here are excerpts from an AP news story that just came in:

The government is investigating a major insurance company for allegedly trying to scare seniors with a mailer warning they could lose important benefits under health care legislation in Congress.​
And the most chilling two paragraphs:

I
n a warning letter to Humana, HHS said the government is concerned that the mailer "is misleading and confusing" partly because the company's lobbying campaign could be mistaken for an official communication about Medicare benefits.

HHS ordered the company to immediately halt any such mailings, and remove any related materials from its Web site. In the letter, the government also said it may take other action against Humana, which is based in Louisville, Ky.​

One of the ways that governments try to "win" debates is to make debate by the other side illegal. This is what HHS is doing, at the behest of Senator Baucus. Asked on yesterday's Face the Nation on CBS whether a "sort of meanness" had settled "over our political dialogue," Obama said, "Right."

I'm not sure that the questionner, Bob Schieffer, knows the difference between meanness and anger. I have seen some of the former, but much of the latter, at the various town hall meetings. But here's where Obama has a chance to practice what he preaches. He has the power to countermand HHS's order. And HHS's action would certainly qualify as mean. You can't get much meaner than to threaten someone with guns. And that is what a warning letter from HHS is. Think about what would happen if Humana ignored the HHS letter and kept speaking out critically on health care. The next step would be to bring Humana to court. If Humana refused, the next step would be, literally, for the Feds to come in with guns.

For years, various commentators have said that Friedrich Hayek, in The Road to Serfdom, and Milton Friedman, in Capitalism and Freedom, exaggerated the dangers to freedom of speech from government control. But also for years, drug companies have feared criticizing the FDA because the FDA has so much discretionary control over their economic livelihoods. Now HHS has upped the ante. Will the defenders of freedom of speech step up to defend Humana's rights, as opposed to Humana's statements. How many people will there be who disagree with what Humana said, but who defend (I don't even need "to the death"--I'll settle for a letter and postage stamp) their right to say it?

BTW, here's the Humana mailer. The Huffington Post blogger, Dawn Teo, seems to disagree with its content. Now to the big test: will she defend Humana's freedom of speech? I'll bet she doesn't but this is a bet I would truly love to lose.

Bleg: I can't find an actual copy of the HHS letter on the web and so I'm taking the press's word for it. Can anyone provide a link to the actual letter?

Update: Let's Give them a Fair Trial and then Hang Them

Thanks to commenter MBP below, we now have a link to the letter from HHS to Humana. It's only three paragraphs. Here are the last two:

CMS is concerned that, among other things, this information is misleading and confusing to beneficiaries, represents information to beneficiaries as official communications about the Medicare Advantage program, and is potentially contrary to federal regulations and guidance for the MA and Part D programs and other federal law, including HIPAA. As we continue our research into this issue, we are instructing you to end immediately all such mailings to beneficiaries and to remove any related materials directed to Medicare enrollees from your website.

Please be advised that we take this matter very seriously and, based upon the findings of our investigation, will pursue compliance and enforcement actions.​

Besides the excellent point made by RL, the second commenter below, notice two other interesting things:

1. It's "potentially contrary to federal regulations" and therefore "we are instructing you to end immediately, etc." So just the potential that it's violating the law is enough, apparently, for Teresa DeCaro to make her threat.

2. Also, "based upon the findings of our investigation, will pursue compliance and enforcement actions." Notice a little step missing? What if they investigate and find nothing wrong? She's, of course, presuming the outcome of the investigation.
 
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