GOP lawmakers criticize Biden for not sending F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine

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WILMINGTON, Del. (AP) — Republican lawmakers on Sunday criticized the Biden administration for not sending F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine, as tensions simmer about whether China could send weapons to help Russia in the year-long war.

But White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan said they're providing Ukraine with the military aid needed to retake territory seized by Russia and that China has yet to supply military equipment. The domestic politics of support for Ukraine are also complicated by some Republican lawmakers who say the administration should pull back and focus more on domestic needs.

Texas Rep. Michael McCaul, chairman of the House Foreign Relations Committee, told ABC's “This Week” that planes and long-range artillery could help end the war on a faster timeline.

“This whole thing is taking too long,” McCaul said. “And it really didn't have to happen this way.”................
https://cbs12.com/news/nation-world...e-rrusia-invasion-military-aid-michael-mccaul

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Ukraine needs F16s ASAP. Biden is dragging out this war. He is getting people killed. The Ukrainians need air superiority now. Ukraine need tanks and F16s now so they can bring this thing to a resolution faster.
 
ExpressLane said:
WILMINGTON, Del. (AP) — Republican lawmakers on Sunday criticized the Biden administration for not sending F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine, as tensions simmer about whether China could send weapons to help Russia in the year-long war.

But White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan said they're providing Ukraine with the military aid needed to retake territory seized by Russia and that China has yet to supply military equipment. The domestic politics of support for Ukraine are also complicated by some Republican lawmakers who say the administration should pull back and focus more on domestic needs.

Texas Rep. Michael McCaul, chairman of the House Foreign Relations Committee, told ABC's “This Week” that planes and long-range artillery could help end the war on a faster timeline.

“This whole thing is taking too long,” McCaul said. “And it really didn't have to happen this way.”................
https://cbs12.com/news/nation-world...e-rrusia-invasion-military-aid-michael-mccaul

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Ukraine needs F16s ASAP. Biden is dragging out this war. He is getting people killed. The Ukrainians need air superiority now. Ukraine need tanks and F16s now so they can bring this thing to a resolution faster.
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He should have got NATO to announce a No Fly Zone when Russia was massed at the border, Before Putin invaded, IMO.
 
Bigdog said:
He should have got NATO to announce a No Fly Zone when Russia was massed at the border, Before Putin invaded, IMO.
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If Bungling Biden would let the Netherlands give their F16s to Ukraine it could enforce its own no fly zone. Netherlands is replacing their F16s with F35.
 
One gets the sense that some Republicans would prefer giving F16s to Russia.


“Remember that Zelenskyy is a thug. Remember that the Ukrainian government is incredibly corrupt and it is incredibly evil and has been pushing woke ideologies.”
Former Rep. Madison Cawthorn, March 2022.

“No Republican should vote for any money for Ukraine. $0 for Ukraine.”
Steve Bannon, March 2022.

“Under Republicans, not another penny will go to Ukraine.”
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, November 2022.

“Zelenskyy is not a hero. He is an instrument of total destruction.”
Tucker Carlson, February 2023.
 
Bigdog said:
I think it is clear that the security council denied it or it would have been done.
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I can't imagine any airforce capable of applying a ' No Fly Zone ' to the Russians over Ukraine. And WW3 would be waiting for anybody that attempted it.

This doesn't rank among your best ideas.


Everybody should realize that this war is not about anybody ' winning '- the goal has become the avoidance of WW3.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
One gets the sense that some Republicans would prefer giving F16s to Russia.


“Remember that Zelenskyy is a thug. Remember that the Ukrainian government is incredibly corrupt and it is incredibly evil and has been pushing woke ideologies.”
Former Rep. Madison Cawthorn, March 2022.

“No Republican should vote for any money for Ukraine. $0 for Ukraine.”
Steve Bannon, March 2022.

“Under Republicans, not another penny will go to Ukraine.”
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, November 2022.

“Zelenskyy is not a hero. He is an instrument of total destruction.”
Tucker Carlson, February 2023.
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I believe we should audit how our money to Ukraine is being spent. Just giving Ukraine money without oversight is ripe for fraud.
 
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Bigdog said:
Google says, about 60.

Your idea does sound like a good immediate solution. The tanks NATO is sending will certainly need protection from air strikes.
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60 F16 would make a huge step towards Ukraine winning this war.


Yes air superiority for tanks is extremely important.
 
moon said:
I can't imagine any airforce capable of applying a ' No Fly Zone ' to the Russians over Ukraine. And WW3 would be waiting for anybody that attempted it.

This doesn't rank among your best ideas.


Everybody should realize that this war is not about anybody ' winning '- the goal has become the avoidance of WW3.
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A good missile system and some F16s will give Ukraine the ability to enforce their own no fly zone.
 
Rightys are simple. If Biden does it, it is wrong. We are not getting intelligent criticisms, just right-wing stubborn hate. If he provided the planes, the rightys would explain how it was wrong, perhaps's the wrongest thing that ever happened.
 
moon said:
I can't imagine any airforce capable of applying a ' No Fly Zone ' to the Russians over Ukraine. And WW3 would be waiting for anybody that attempted it.

This doesn't rank among your best ideas.


Everybody should realize that this war is not about anybody ' winning '- the goal has become the avoidance of WW3.
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Russia's air force is a paper tiger. They have been unable to establish air superiority over Ukraine for over a year now.
 
ExpressLane said:
Russia's air force is a paper tiger. They have been unable to establish air superiority over Ukraine for over a year now.
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Yeah- ' Balboa is a bum '
They're very much aware that the Zelenskies have their own S300 system. However, much of that has been expended by firing at drones/missiles. We'll probably see a lot more air activity before long.
My two shekels.
 
moon said:
Yeah- ' Balboa is a bum '
They're very much aware that the Zelenskies have their own S300 system. However, much of that has been expended by firing at drones/missiles. We'll probably see a lot more air activity before long.
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Ukraine is getting the Patriot missile system a much more capable missile system than the S300. The US could have taken out the S300s in a day or two. Russia has been unable to do that.
 
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ExpressLane said:
Russia's air force is a paper tiger. They have been unable to establish air superiority over Ukraine for over a year now.
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We had a complete airforce advantage in our wars with Vietnam and Afghanistan. Airpower seems to be overrated. The factor underrated is that people fight with all they have to protect their homes and families. If you take them over, they will go underground and make your victory miserable, expensive and not worth the fight. It was called " The territorial Imperitive' years ago. Studies showed that smaller animals, which had no chance against a bigger ones, got stronger the closer the fight got to their homes. You may win, but it will not be worth it.
 
Nordberg said:
We had a complete airforce advantage in our wars with Vietnam and Afghanistan. Airpower seems to be overrated. The factor underrated is that people fight with all they have to protect their homes and families. If you take them over, they will go underground and make your victory miserable, expensive and not worth the fight. It was called " The territorial Imperitive' years ago. Studies showed that smaller animals, which had no chance against a bigger ones, got stronger the closer the fight got to their homes. You may win, but it will not be worth it.
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Are you a General :thinking: Russia will never hold Ukraine because the people are armed and do not want to be ruled by Russia. But Ukraine wants to eject Russia from its land. To do that quickly requires tanks and air power to protect its tanks.
 
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