God's Work

God has no place in politics or the work of government officials. If they think they are dong Gods work that is fine, but to use Gods name to promote or push a political plan or agenda is shameful, in my opinion.

Big G or little g, it does not matter.
 
Jarod said:
God has no place in politics or the work of government officials. If they think they are dong Gods work that is fine, but to use Gods name to promote or push a political plan or agenda is shameful, in my opinion.

Big G or little g, it does not matter.
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I was making fun of SF w/ the g stuff, but I disagree w/ your viewpoint on this. Not necessarily w/ what you said above, but he's not making it part of the policy, or merging church & state in any way. He's praising workers, and invoking God in a speech - where that reference will be basically confined.

There is absolutely nothing wrong w/ that, on any level.
 
Thing1 said:
I was making fun of SF w/ the g stuff, but I disagree w/ your viewpoint on this. Not necessarily w/ what you said above, but he's not making it part of the policy, or merging church & state in any way. He's praising workers, and invoking God in a speech - where that reference will be basically confined.

There is absolutely nothing wrong w/ that, on any level.
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I see your joke.

I personally think they should simply avoid invoking the name and spirit of God when speaking as president. The reason is that to many people it appears to spread the legitimacy of Gods will over the agenda. When you invoke the name of God to bless your goals as president, you are invoking a air of legitimacy that is not proper for political purposes, that has been used to bring about great evil.

You might be doing Gods work, but to claim you are puts the policy under the shroud of an illegitimate blanket of authority.
 
Jarod said:
I see your joke.

I personally think they should simply avoid invoking the name and spirit of God when speaking as president. The reason is that to many people it appears to spread the legitimacy of Gods will over the agenda. When you invoke the name of God to bless your goals as president, you are invoking a air of legitimacy that is not proper for political purposes, that has been used to bring about great evil.

You might be doing Gods work, but to claim you are puts the policy under the shroud of an illegitimate blanket of authority.
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I respect what you're saying, but just disagree. Presidents mention god all of the time - I can't remember a convention speech that didn't end with "and may god bless the United States of America." I don't see any harm in it.

It doesn't cross the threshold established by separation of church & state.
 
aeprga said:
Hey SF, if you have a problem with it (or not) you should say so instead of that "Discuss . . . " nonsense.
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Hey douche bag, I had more of a problem with his speech (probably due to lack of teleprompter) being relatively incoherent. I don't care if people invoke God or not in what they do. I just find it funny that a liberal president would do so knowing what a conundrum it would place upon his followers.
 
Superfreak said:
Hey douche bag, I had more of a problem with his speech (probably due to lack of teleprompter) being relatively incoherent. I don't care if people invoke God or not in what they do. I just find it funny that a liberal president would do so knowing what a conundrum it would place upon his followers.
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It's no problem for us. We seem him as the SON of God, so there is no conflict.
 
Superfreak said:
Hey douche bag, I had more of a problem with his speech (probably due to lack of teleprompter) being relatively incoherent. I don't care if people invoke God or not in what they do. I just find it funny that a liberal president would do so knowing what a conundrum it would place upon his followers.
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You mean the citizens of the United States who voted for him? What a stupid remark "followers".

I don't have any problem with it.
 
Superfreak said:
Hey douche bag, I had more of a problem with his speech (probably due to lack of teleprompter) being relatively incoherent. I don't care if people invoke God or not in what they do. I just find it funny that a liberal president would do so knowing what a conundrum it would place upon his followers.
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I think you misunderstood his remark. He wasn't invoking "God." He was referring to himself.

Dumbass.
 
Darla said:
You mean the citizens of the United States who voted for him? What a stupid remark "followers".

I don't have any problem with it.
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no, I mean his followers.

Of course you don't have a problem with it. But if Bush had said it, you would have gone bat shit crazy mocking him.
 
Thing1 said:
I respect what you're saying, but just disagree. Presidents mention god all of the time - I can't remember a convention speech that didn't end with "and may god bless the United States of America." I don't see any harm in it.

It doesn't cross the threshold established by separation of church & state.
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I think this is the best response so far. I know SF presents this as a conundrum to liberals and I do think it would be to some. JFK was before my time of remembrance but I am a studier of speeches and politics and think he truly would have a hard time carrying many of the more liberal areas of the US nowadays speaking as he spoke then ... and I must add: just like I think Reagan would have a hard time carrying the more conservative areas nowadays.

I respect that Mr. Obama is a Christian as that is what he calls himself. Who am I to judge otherwise. I would expect a man who calls himself a Christian to use such a phrase now and then. No biggee ... at least to me.
 
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