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Rudy Giuliani Wrong in Saying ‘No Domestic Attacks Under Bush’

January 08, 2010 8:55 AM
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President Obama yesterday took personal responsibility for failures in the Christmas day terror plot, but Rudy Giuliani still isn’t convinced.
I spoke to the former mayor of New York City this morning on GMA, who assailed the Obama administration’s decisions on national security.
“What he [Obama] should be doing is following the right things that Bush did -- one of the right things he did was treat this as a war on terror. We had no domestic attacks under Bush. We’ve had one under Obama,” Giuliani said. “Number two, he should correct the things that Bush didn’t do right. Sending people to Yemen was wrong, not getting this whole intelligence thing corrected.”
Giuliani seems to have forgotten about the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks and shoe bomber Richard Reid.
The former Republican presidential candidate specifically took issue with the fact that the suspect, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, is being tried in a civil court instead of a military tribunal.
“I wouldn’t have as big of a problem with this if the Obama administration had said military courts are unconstitutional, they’re unfair. We are going to have military courts, we are going to have civilian courts and it seems to me we’re going to be trying the most dangerous terrorists in the wrong place, the ones who attacked us here in the United States,” he told me.
Officials said Abdulmutallab gave up a lot of information in the more than 30 hours after his arrest, but Giuliani isn’t convinced that U.S. authorities have gotten all the information they need from him. He argues that military courts are there for cases just like his -- even though only three terror suspects were convicted in military courts in the eight years George W. Bush was president.
“This isn’t about whether you convict him or not, this is about whether you get information or not. If you put someone in a civilian court, within a short time a lawyer is appointed and the person shuts up. If you have a person in the military system you can question him endlessly for as long as you have to, make sure you’ve gotten the full scope of information, and here’s the most important point, you get it timely,” Giuliani said.
The former mayor also assailed Obama’s decision to shut down the detainee center at Guantanamo Bay, calling the idea “totally absurd.”
Is he satisfied with the Obama administration so far?
Not quite yet.
“I want to see what he does,” Giuliani said.
Watch our full conversation here:
 
Giuliani's an imbecile. But this illustrates something else that we have seen from some on the right since the election: they are absolutely chomping at the bit for terrorist attacks, so they can break out their "told ya so's."

Cheney has led the charge, but talk radio is right behind him (as are a few posters here)...
 
Giuliani's an imbecile. But this illustrates something else that we have seen from some on the right since the election: they are absolutely chomping at the bit for terrorist attacks, so they can break out their "told ya so's."

Cheney has led the charge, but talk radio is right behind him (as are a few posters here)...

right.....like the left never used terrorists attacks as a political football....

thats why when people make mistakes like rudi, the left is so fucking happy that a terrorist attack happened because they can point and say....SEE....bush didn't keep us safe, thank goodness we had 9/11, reid and the anthrax attacks so we can show how incompetent bush was and how this terrorist attack under obama means NOTHING....

:yawn:

we need a yawn smilie
 
right.....like the left never used terrorists attacks as a political football....

thats why when people make mistakes like rudi, the left is so fucking happy that a terrorist attack happened because they can point and say....SEE....bush didn't keep us safe, thank goodness we had 9/11, reid and the anthrax attacks so we can show how incompetent bush was and how this terrorist attack under obama means NOTHING....

:yawn:

we need a yawn smilie

You know, I've gotta say - I'm happy to see that you're not putting up a fight, and admitting readily that many on the right are positively giddy about the prospect of Americans dying, so they can stick it to Obama.

Good on you.

:good4u:
 
You know, I've gotta say - I'm happy to see that you're not putting up a fight, and admitting readily that many on the right are positively giddy about the prospect of Americans dying, so they can stick it to Obama.

Good on you.

:good4u:

using that dumb logic....

glad to see your omission in not denying the left is in fact happy about the terror attacks, means i'm right

idiot
 
It seems to me Giuliani and everyone is misusing the term "domestic terrorist". Tim McVeigh was a domestic terrorist. James W. Von Brunn, the Holocaust Museum shooter was domestic terrorist. Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab is a foreign, international terrorist. 9/11/01 was instigated by international terrorists. The FBI labeled the 2001 anthrax mailing as domestic, but I personally do not think they had enough info to definitively come to that conclusion since their primary suspect committed "suicide". International terrorist attacks taking place within the U.S. is NOT domestic terrorism.

Let's get our terminology correct before we start spouting criticisms and tossing around the "you guys do it worse" dronebot rhetoric.

Besides, in all cases it was the "failures" (some understandable, some not so much) of the intelligence community, not the president.
 
It seems to me Giuliani and everyone is misusing the term "domestic terrorist". Tim McVeigh was a domestic terrorist. James W. Von Brunn, the Holocaust Museum shooter was domestic terrorist. Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab is a foreign, international terrorist. 9/11/01 was instigated by international terrorists. The FBI labeled the 2001 anthrax mailing as domestic, but I personally do not think they had enough info to definitively come to that conclusion since their primary suspect committed "suicide". International terrorist attacks taking place within the U.S. is NOT domestic terrorism.

Let's get our terminology correct before we start spouting criticisms and tossing around the "you guys do it worse" dronebot rhetoric.

Besides, in all cases it was the "failures" (some understandable, some not so much) of the intelligence community, not the president.


Be it domestic or foreign, the wanton act of randomly killing civilians in order to further a political agenda is an act of "terrorism".

Giuliani is a fucking joke....9/11 temporarily saved his ass (until close scrutiny shows "America's Mayor"), because just prior to that horror he was being lambasted by the New York PBA for not living up to his promises.

Now his neocon revisionism has caused some of the GOP to distance themselves from his latest public pants piss. Gotta love it!:)
 
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