Germany will fire up coal plants again in effort to save natural gas

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Germany will restart coal-fired power plants in order to conserve natural gas, the country’s economy minister announced Sunday, amid concerns about a looming supply shortage after Russia cut gas deliveries to Europe last week.

The move was part of a series of measures, including new incentives for companies to burn less natural gas, announced by Germany as Europe takes steps to deal with reduced energy supplies from Russia.

Since European countries imposed sanctions to punish Moscow after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February, Russia has responded by cutting off gas supplies to several European countries. Last week, Russian energy giant Gazprom also reduced flows through the Nord Stream pipeline, an important undersea link that carries gas directly to Germany.

Gazprom blamed maintenance issues for the reductions, but European leaders have called the move a political tactic by President Vladimir Putin of Russia.

“The situation is serious,” Robert Habeck, the economy minister who is also Germany’s vice chancellor, said in a statement Sunday, laying out the steps that would be taken to ensure that more gas is available to divert into storage so the country has enough to get through the winter. They include bringing back online coal-fired power plants that had been drawn down to reduce carbon emissions, although the statement did not specify how many plants would be affected.

“That’s bitter, but it’s simply necessary in this situation to lower gas usage,” said Habeck, a member of the environmentalist Greens party. “The gas storage tanks must be full by winter. That is our top priority.”

Germany has relied heavily on energy imports from Russia for decades. Last year, Russian imports accounted for 55% of the country’s natural gas supply. But after Moscow’s Feb. 24 invasion of Ukraine, Berlin began purchasing gas from Norway, the United States and the United Arab Emirates, reducing its purchases from Russia by about 20%.

The government has nevertheless insisted that Russian gas will be needed to ensure storage tanks are at least 90% full by November — in keeping with a law passed earlier this year to ensure a sufficient supply of natural gas, which is used largely for heating and manufacturing. One-third of Germany’s homes are heated with natural gas, while it is used for only about 15% of all electricity generation.

A law allowing a return to the use of coal in power generation is expected to pass next month. By the end of the summer, a model should be in place that would allow companies to auction gas, as part of efforts to encourage Germany’s industrial sector to reduce its reliance on the fuel.

Last week, Germany’s powerful industrial lobby, the Federation of German Industry, said companies were already switching to coal, as part of efforts to make more natural gas available for storage. Many have also been seeking alternative, more sustainable sources of energy, it said, while emphasizing that such transitions take time.
https://www.seattletimes.com/busine...ts-again-in-effort-to-save-natural-gas/?amp=1
 
so lets see. "Bad Putin" -so Germany and EU and NATO impose sanctions on Russia.
Russia cuts nat gas to Europe
Germany restarts coal plants ( an existential threat to life on earth for Greenies)

Talk about self imposed wound by Europe.

Here in the USA we just got runaway inflation, (more then Germany) from the "Putin price hike"

WTF ? doesnt anyone think anything out?
 
A conflict between fledgling democracy and authoritarianism is being played out on the Ukranian steppes.

For the next 12 to 24 months, it is more important to starve the notorious war criminal Vlad Putin of cash than it is to worry about firing up a few coal plants as an interim measure.
 
A conflict between fledgling democracy and authoritarianism is being played out on the Ukranian steppes.

For the next 12 to 24 months, it is more important to starve the notorious war criminal Vlad Putin of cash than it is to worry about firing up a few coal plants as an interim measure.
but Russia has more income then ever. The Ruble is higher then before the war.

And what about the existential threat of AGW climate change?
surely that's more important then "bad Putin"? we are literally "transitioning" our economy over that claim

Sanctions are notoriously fucked up - Europe hurts itself and sanctions hurt the Russian people-
not the Russian war effort
Crazy shit
 
How does “Russia have more income than ever?”

“Putin’s war been an economic disaster for Russia? The immediate financial cost has certainly been enormous”

“It comes to something like $1.4 trillion of impact on Russia. It’s about $8,000 per head of the Russian population. That figure takes into account the halving of the Russian stock market’s value, the freezing of assets controlled by the central bank and Russian oligarchs, and Western sanctions’ overall effect on economic activity”

“This adds up to less investment, less growth, lower living standards, probably a brain drain, higher inflation and an overall undermining of Russia’s productive capacity. Almost every industry you take, they’re having shortages, they’re having difficulties to export their products to the markets they used to export to — Europe is the most important trading partner for Russia — and they’re also having difficulty getting the parts for their production.”

“The institute is forecasting a 15% plunge in Russia’s gross domestic product this year. Unemployment is expected to skyrocket, especially since more than 700 multinational companies are pulling out of Russia and will be shedding employees as they go.”

https://www.marketplace.org/2022/05/02/how-much-has-putins-war-damaged-russias-economy/
 
How does “Russia have more income than ever?”

“Putin’s war been an economic disaster for Russia? The immediate financial cost has certainly been enormous”

“It comes to something like $1.4 trillion of impact on Russia. It’s about $8,000 per head of the Russian population. That figure takes into account the halving of the Russian stock market’s value, the freezing of assets controlled by the central bank and Russian oligarchs, and Western sanctions’ overall effect on economic activity”

“This adds up to less investment, less growth, lower living standards, probably a brain drain, higher inflation and an overall undermining of Russia’s productive capacity. Almost every industry you take, they’re having shortages, they’re having difficulties to export their products to the markets they used to export to — Europe is the most important trading partner for Russia — and they’re also having difficulty getting the parts for their production.”

“The institute is forecasting a 15% plunge in Russia’s gross domestic product this year. Unemployment is expected to skyrocket, especially since more than 700 multinational companies are pulling out of Russia and will be shedding employees as they go.”

https://www.marketplace.org/2022/05/02/how-much-has-putins-war-damaged-russias-economy/

Will Europe do worse?

Will America?
 
so lets see. "Bad Putin" -so Germany and EU and NATO impose sanctions on Russia.
Russia cuts nat gas to Europe
Germany restarts coal plants ( an existential threat to life on earth for Greenies)

Talk about self imposed wound by Europe.

Here in the USA we just got runaway inflation, (more then Germany) from the "Putin price hike"

WTF ? doesnt anyone think anything out?

You are right, I think we should just turn Ukraine over to Russia, along with all the other countries they wish to conquer. After all, we do need a rebirth of the USSR.
 
Germany aims to cut 20% of gas use immediately, mostly by shutting down industry, exactly where many of us for years have been claiming that Germany would end up with their idiotic energy policy.
 
Another link you never read, since you dont have a subscription
you FUCKING IDIOT -kill yourself and immensely raise the board IQ quality- please!

You get a couple free articles a month - run Crapcleaner (takes off cookies) and you can get more
 
Germany aims to cut 20% of gas use immediately, mostly by shutting down industry, exactly where many of us for years have been claiming that Germany would end up with their idiotic energy policy.
i think the German plan is to shift to renewables
=more expensive, less reliable, which does impact industry
 
i think the German plan is to shift to renewables
=more expensive, less reliable, which does impact industry

To get through this year they are going to start a system so that industry that shuts down or reduces production get paid, if that does not work they will order closures. ....they are driving industry out. I was also reading that industry is looking to get out of Australia because of their failed energy policy, and the losing of hope.

*SEE SIG*
 
but Russia has more income then ever. The Ruble is higher then before the war.

And what about the existential threat of AGW climate change?
surely that's more important then "bad Putin"? we are literally "transitioning" our economy over that claim

Sanctions are notoriously fucked up - Europe hurts itself and sanctions hurt the Russian people-
not the Russian war effort
Crazy shit

India and China are buying plenty of Russian oil....
 
Germany will restart coal-fired power plants in order to conserve natural gas, the country’s economy minister announced Sunday, amid concerns about a looming supply shortage after Russia cut gas deliveries to Europe last week.

The move was part of a series of measures, including new incentives for companies to burn less natural gas, announced by Germany as Europe takes steps to deal with reduced energy supplies from Russia.

Since European countries imposed sanctions to punish Moscow after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February, Russia has responded by cutting off gas supplies to several European countries. Last week, Russian energy giant Gazprom also reduced flows through the Nord Stream pipeline, an important undersea link that carries gas directly to Germany.

Gazprom blamed maintenance issues for the reductions, but European leaders have called the move a political tactic by President Vladimir Putin of Russia.

“The situation is serious,” Robert Habeck, the economy minister who is also Germany’s vice chancellor, said in a statement Sunday, laying out the steps that would be taken to ensure that more gas is available to divert into storage so the country has enough to get through the winter. They include bringing back online coal-fired power plants that had been drawn down to reduce carbon emissions, although the statement did not specify how many plants would be affected.

“That’s bitter, but it’s simply necessary in this situation to lower gas usage,” said Habeck, a member of the environmentalist Greens party. “The gas storage tanks must be full by winter. That is our top priority.”

Germany has relied heavily on energy imports from Russia for decades. Last year, Russian imports accounted for 55% of the country’s natural gas supply. But after Moscow’s Feb. 24 invasion of Ukraine, Berlin began purchasing gas from Norway, the United States and the United Arab Emirates, reducing its purchases from Russia by about 20%.

The government has nevertheless insisted that Russian gas will be needed to ensure storage tanks are at least 90% full by November — in keeping with a law passed earlier this year to ensure a sufficient supply of natural gas, which is used largely for heating and manufacturing. One-third of Germany’s homes are heated with natural gas, while it is used for only about 15% of all electricity generation.

A law allowing a return to the use of coal in power generation is expected to pass next month. By the end of the summer, a model should be in place that would allow companies to auction gas, as part of efforts to encourage Germany’s industrial sector to reduce its reliance on the fuel.

Last week, Germany’s powerful industrial lobby, the Federation of German Industry, said companies were already switching to coal, as part of efforts to make more natural gas available for storage. Many have also been seeking alternative, more sustainable sources of energy, it said, while emphasizing that such transitions take time.
https://www.seattletimes.com/busine...ts-again-in-effort-to-save-natural-gas/?amp=1

Did you know there are coal-fired electrical plants right here in the US. One of them next to Oklahoma, where fracking for natural gas will eventually make the state fall back to the center of The Earth. There is about to be a big hole where OK was.

And speaking of big holes, I hope fat donny is there when it happnens.
 
so lets see. "Bad Putin" -so Germany and EU and NATO impose sanctions on Russia.
Russia cuts nat gas to Europe
Germany restarts coal plants ( an existential threat to life on earth for Greenies)

Talk about self imposed wound by Europe.

Here in the USA we just got runaway inflation, (more then Germany) from the "Putin price hike"

WTF ? doesnt anyone think anything out?

We have coal power plants right here where we have natural gas coming out our ass. Your argument fails.
 
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