Freedom of the Press: GOP Style...

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So much for "Freedom of the Press"...



The Alaska-based reporter who was briefly handcuffed and detained by security detail for Alaska Senate candidate Joe Miller offered additional details about his ordeal in an interview with The Huffington Post on Monday.

Tony Hopfinger, who edits the website Alaska Dispatch, said that the roughly 25 minutes that he was detained in a empty corridor with only one private security guard watching him, was intimidating, maddening and cause for concern about the treatment of the press by political candidates.

"Getting handcuffed by somebody you don't know at a public school, no one had said it was a private event or cast it that way, I mean intimidated, yeah [I was]. But I guess I was more pissed off. Miller, I felt, was going to answer my question on the reprimand part," said Hopfinger.

"I think, just like in other parts of the country, the media is finding itself having a hard time doing its job in this political cycle because, whenever we ask questions, there are certain candidates out there who decry 'lamestream media' or whatever. Mr. Miller has had plenty of time to answer questions. He has been given plenty of opportunities. He somehow believes he shouldn't be questioned about his background and yet he wants a job in six years, to a post where there are only 100 in the entire country, and we are not supposed to ask questions about anything of his past. There is a little bit of shoot the messenger. It is happening up here, and other parts of the country. There are certain candidates who just want to turn this around and act like it's the media causing the problem. That has always been there, that element. It is just more ramped up this political cycle."

On Sunday, Miller's private security guards handcuffed and detained Hopfinger after he tried to ask the candidate about his time at the Fairbanks Northstar Borough. Miller was accused of using borough equipment in the unsuccessful 2008 attempt to oust state Republican Party Chairman Randy Ruedrich.

Hopfinger said that he followed Miller through the school hallway, hoping to get an on-the-record explanation about the issue. At some point, he said, he found himself alone among reporters and "surrounded by a bunch of security guard types and Miller supporters." Miller never told him to stop asking questions, he said. But his backers did.

"I figure I'm at a public school and they are telling me I'm trespassing," he said. "And it was just a matter of seconds, I'm challenging this trespass issue and the next thing you know they got me detained and I'm in handcuffs and they put me in another corridor of the building. So for 25 minutes no one even knew where the hell I was... They said we were going to call the police and I said, 'Fine, call the police.'"

Hopfinger said that both he and his paper have not yet ruled out considering legal remedies. But his preference is to let Miller's actions "speak for themselves."

The whole story here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/18/reporter-detained-by-joe-_n_766565.html
 
Zappa, do you know where arresting a member of the press for asking a question in a public arena is in the Constitution?
 
first, this isn't just the GOP. Both political candidates are starting to use this overbearance of security.

second, if it was PRIVATE security, I'd be pushing the issue hardcore for kidnapping charges or at least unlawful restraint.
 
So much for "Freedom of the Press"...



The Alaska-based reporter who was briefly handcuffed and detained by security detail for Alaska Senate candidate Joe Miller offered additional details about his ordeal in an interview with The Huffington Post on Monday.

Tony Hopfinger, who edits the website Alaska Dispatch, said that the roughly 25 minutes that he was detained in a empty corridor with only one private security guard watching him, was intimidating, maddening and cause for concern about the treatment of the press by political candidates.

"Getting handcuffed by somebody you don't know at a public school, no one had said it was a private event or cast it that way, I mean intimidated, yeah [I was]. But I guess I was more pissed off. Miller, I felt, was going to answer my question on the reprimand part," said Hopfinger.

"I think, just like in other parts of the country, the media is finding itself having a hard time doing its job in this political cycle because, whenever we ask questions, there are certain candidates out there who decry 'lamestream media' or whatever. Mr. Miller has had plenty of time to answer questions. He has been given plenty of opportunities. He somehow believes he shouldn't be questioned about his background and yet he wants a job in six years, to a post where there are only 100 in the entire country, and we are not supposed to ask questions about anything of his past. There is a little bit of shoot the messenger. It is happening up here, and other parts of the country. There are certain candidates who just want to turn this around and act like it's the media causing the problem. That has always been there, that element. It is just more ramped up this political cycle."

On Sunday, Miller's private security guards handcuffed and detained Hopfinger after he tried to ask the candidate about his time at the Fairbanks Northstar Borough. Miller was accused of using borough equipment in the unsuccessful 2008 attempt to oust state Republican Party Chairman Randy Ruedrich.

Hopfinger said that he followed Miller through the school hallway, hoping to get an on-the-record explanation about the issue. At some point, he said, he found himself alone among reporters and "surrounded by a bunch of security guard types and Miller supporters." Miller never told him to stop asking questions, he said. But his backers did.

"I figure I'm at a public school and they are telling me I'm trespassing," he said. "And it was just a matter of seconds, I'm challenging this trespass issue and the next thing you know they got me detained and I'm in handcuffs and they put me in another corridor of the building. So for 25 minutes no one even knew where the hell I was... They said we were going to call the police and I said, 'Fine, call the police.'"

Hopfinger said that both he and his paper have not yet ruled out considering legal remedies. But his preference is to let Miller's actions "speak for themselves."

The whole story here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/18/reporter-detained-by-joe-_n_766565.html

Miller's campaign put out a statement after the incident saying that Hopfinger "physically assaulted another individual and made threatening gestures and movements towards the candidate" - charges denied by Hopfinger. The Alaska Republican's office also has said they didn't know that Hopfinger was a "blogger" (he's not, the Dispatch is a for-profit start-up news website that employees four reporters, two of whom have won Pulitzer Prizes for their reporting).

So obviously this is a he said/he said event. Not surprising the liberal huffpost sides with the liberal blogger.

http://alaskadispatch.com/about-us

Alaska Dispatch, an online newsmagazine, was founded by Alaska journalists (and husband and wife) Tony Hopfinger and Amanda Coyne in their spare bedroom in 2008.
 
So obviously this is a he said/he said event. Not surprising the liberal huffpost sides with the liberal blogger.

http://alaskadispatch.com/about-us


Totally. I mean, personally, if I ever assault anyone I always use a video camera to get footage of me assaulting another person. You know, for posterity. And whenever I am assaulted by someone else and that person is filming it, I take their video camera and erase the footage of me being assaulted because I'm nice like that.
 
So obviously this is a he said/he said event. Not surprising the liberal huffpost sides with the liberal blogger.

http://alaskadispatch.com/about-us

Now why would you only post the first two sentences of a paragraph and leave out so much more info?

Because your just another partisan hack who can't post the whole truth?

From the dispatch site: In mid-2009, Alice Rogoff, a longtime supporter of journalism and former chief financial officer of U.S. News and World Report, became the majority owner of Alaska Dispatch. She is committed to funding the website until it becomes profitable. An aggressive timeline calls for that to happen in less than three years. To that end, Alaska Dispatch has expanded beyond Hopfinger and Coyne, employing a three-person sales team and 10 seasoned journalists, two of whom have been on teams that have won Pulitzer Prizes.
 
Now why would you only post the first two sentences of a paragraph and leave out so much more info?

Because your just another partisan hack who can't post the whole truth?

From the dispatch site: In mid-2009, Alice Rogoff, a longtime supporter of journalism and former chief financial officer of U.S. News and World Report, became the majority owner of Alaska Dispatch. She is committed to funding the website until it becomes profitable. An aggressive timeline calls for that to happen in less than three years. To that end, Alaska Dispatch has expanded beyond Hopfinger and Coyne, employing a three-person sales team and 10 seasoned journalists, two of whom have been on teams that have won Pulitzer Prizes.

LMAO.... tell us Zappa.... did you post the entire article in your OP? Or did you post a portion of it and then provide a link for everyone else to go to should they want more?
 
Totally. I mean, personally, if I ever assault anyone I always use a video camera to get footage of me assaulting another person. You know, for posterity. And whenever I am assaulted by someone else and that person is filming it, I take their video camera and erase the footage of me being assaulted because I'm nice like that.

I assume this means there is a video somewhere? If so, do post it as I have not seen it.
 
I assume this means there is a video somewhere? If so, do post it as I have not seen it.


No, this means that the gentleman was rolling video when the incident occurred, he was detained by Miller's goons and his video camera was confiscated and when he got the video camera back the footage was not on it.
 
No, this means that the gentleman was rolling video when the incident occurred, he was detained by Miller's goons and his video camera was confiscated and when he got the video camera back the footage was not on it.

hmmm.... so again... he SAYS he was shooting video, yet there is no video, so we are to believe that he shot the entire incident and the nefarious Miller erased it because he SAID SO. EVIL DOOOERZ!
 
hmmm.... so again... he SAYS he was shooting video, yet there is no video, so we are to believe that he shot the entire incident and the nefarious Miller erased it because he SAID SO. EVIL DOOOERZ!


Yes, you are to believe that.

The funny thing is that instead of denying that they erased the video or saying that no video existed, the goons claimed that the video was erased when the camera was dropped. Smarter goons, please.

And again, keep in mind that these goons arrested a guy and placed him in handcuffs. They aren't the fucking police. You can't just go around arresting people and slapping cuffs on them. Under the circumstance, to get all haughty about the suggestion that they erased a video of the incident is pretty fucking stupid.
 
Private security is not authorized to detain ANYONE. If you are not deputized and you put someone in handcuffs against their will, you have committed a crime. THe fact that the police were not called is VERY telling.
 
Anchorage police who responded to the call said they would leave it to the district attorney’s office to decide whether to prosecute. They spent more than an hour taking statements, then left.

Hopfinger, who was holding a small video camera, said he was attempting to draw out a statement from Miller on why he was disciplined by the Fairbanks North Star Borough when Miller worked there as a part-time attorney. After Miller walked away, Hopfinger said, he was surrounded by Miller supporters and security guards and felt threatened, so he pushed one of them away.

Fulton said the man shoved by Hopfinger was not hurt.

Hopfinger said that after he shoved the man away, the guards grabbed him, cuffed his hands behind his back with steel handcuffs and sat him in a chair in the school hallway, Hopfinger said.

One of the guards grabbed Hopfinger’s video camera. Later, Hopfinger said that when he got the camera back, the segment covering the span of the arrest was missing. An Anchorage police officer offered to take the camera into custody and have it examined in the crime lab to investigate whether evidence had been destroyed, but Hopfinger declined. He said he needed the camera and the remaining video for his work.
The guard who grabbed the camera said Hopfinger had dropped it in the scuffle and denied erasing anything. The guard wouldn’t give his name.

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Anchorage police who responded to the call said they would leave it to the district attorney’s office to decide whether to prosecute. They spent more than an hour taking statements, then left.

Hopfinger, who was holding a small video camera, said he was attempting to draw out a statement from Miller on why he was disciplined by the Fairbanks North Star Borough when Miller worked there as a part-time attorney. After Miller walked away, Hopfinger said, he was surrounded by Miller supporters and security guards and felt threatened, so he pushed one of them away.

Fulton said the man shoved by Hopfinger was not hurt.

Hopfinger said that after he shoved the man away, the guards grabbed him, cuffed his hands behind his back with steel handcuffs and sat him in a chair in the school hallway, Hopfinger said.

One of the guards grabbed Hopfinger’s video camera. Later, Hopfinger said that when he got the camera back, the segment covering the span of the arrest was missing. An Anchorage police officer offered to take the camera into custody and have it examined in the crime lab to investigate whether evidence had been destroyed, but Hopfinger declined. He said he needed the camera and the remaining video for his work.
The guard who grabbed the camera said Hopfinger had dropped it in the scuffle and denied erasing anything. The guard wouldn’t give his name.

Here

WOW...your grasp of the obvious is simply unparalleled!

How about posting some MORE facts that have already been posted?

Maybe then you can post last months lotto numbers...

Do try to keep up...
 
Private security is not authorized to detain ANYONE. If you are not deputized and you put someone in handcuffs against their will, you have committed a crime. THe fact that the police were not called is VERY telling.

Hmm... is that national? Or local?

The reason I ask is I used to work backstage security at Alpine Valley. Anyone that jumped the stage or attempted to do so was put in those plastic restraints and put in a room until the cops arrived.

that said, I agree that it is odd the cops were not called, unless it was that they verified the mans identity and released him as a result rather than calling the cops. That said... I accept that they might have over stepped their bounds as well. The video on huffpost just shows the guy holding him (he is hidden by the machine) and then escorting him away while cuffed.

Doesn't show what happened prior.
 
  • Blogger asked to back away from candiate.
  • Blogger gets agressive shoves a guy.
  • Security cuffs and detains him.
  • Call police
  • Blogger claims his camera had video erased.
  • Police offer to have crime lab examine camera.
  • Blogger declines offer to prove if camera had been tampered with.
 
Tony Hopfinger, who edits the website Alaska Dispatch, said that the roughly 25 minutes that he was detained in a empty corridor with only one private security guard watching him, was intimidating, maddening and cause for concern about the treatment of the press by political candidates.

:lies:
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I count 4 people in the hallway.


:D

Another web blogger who thinks he is Edward R. Morrow.
 
Tony Hopfinger, who edits the website Alaska Dispatch, said that the roughly 25 minutes that he was detained in a empty corridor with only one private security guard watching him, was intimidating, maddening and cause for concern about the treatment of the press by political candidates.

:lies:
View attachment 528


I count 4 people in the hallway.


:D

Another web blogger who thinks he is Edward R. Morrow.

4 people including a police officer taking his statement.
 
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