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New scientific findings in the prestigious Lancet Infectious Diseases journal blow a hole in the argument that workers need to get vaccinated to protect those around them.

The findings prove the foolishness of forcing employees to get jabbed or lose their job.

And Joe Biden should retract his order to the Occupational Safety and Health Administration to compel employers to mandate vaccines.

The journal reported Thursday that COVID-19 vaccines have "minimal" impact on preventing transmission of the delta strain. Delta is the COVID strain currently causing over 99% of U.S. cases.

Most vaccines -- against polio, smallpox, measles and other diseases -- prevent infection and spread.

But not COVID-19 vaccines.

The groundbreaking findings in Lancet show that fully vaccinated people who came down with COVID infected others in their household at the same rate (about 25%) as unvaccinated people did (about 23%). The vaccinated had just as much viral load in their upper respiratory tract, making them just as contagious. "Our findings show that vaccination alone is not enough to prevent people from being infected with the delta variant and spreading it," study co-author Ajit Lalvani said.

The British researchers also found that vaccinated people were only somewhat less likely to contract the virus (25%) compared with the unvaccinated (38%). That conflicts with Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data showing the vaccinated are far less likely to contract COVID.

One thing is for sure: The science is uncertain on this. So, government should not be using a heavy hand to impose mandates.


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/11/03/new_vaccine_science_shows_mandates_are_unwise_146675.html
 
My fully vaccinated daughter in law just contracted COVID and gave it to her two kids. My fully vaccinated brother in law recently died from COVID. I'm fully vaccinated but I think the vaccine should be a personal choice not a mandate.
 
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Data was analysed from the ‘Our World in Data’ site of Johns Hopkins University on 247 million Covid-19 cases from the very start of the pandemic to October 31st 2021, for all 188 nations where they have data on both the percentage of people vaccinated and the cumulative confirmed cases per million .

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cases
 
Legion said:
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New scientific findings in the prestigious Lancet Infectious Diseases journal blow a hole in the argument that workers need to get vaccinated to protect those around them.

The findings prove the foolishness of forcing employees to get jabbed or lose their job.

And Joe Biden should retract his order to the Occupational Safety and Health Administration to compel employers to mandate vaccines.

The journal reported Thursday that COVID-19 vaccines have "minimal" impact on preventing transmission of the delta strain. Delta is the COVID strain currently causing over 99% of U.S. cases.

Most vaccines -- against polio, smallpox, measles and other diseases -- prevent infection and spread.

But not COVID-19 vaccines.

The groundbreaking findings in Lancet show that fully vaccinated people who came down with COVID infected others in their household at the same rate (about 25%) as unvaccinated people did (about 23%). The vaccinated had just as much viral load in their upper respiratory tract, making them just as contagious. "Our findings show that vaccination alone is not enough to prevent people from being infected with the delta variant and spreading it," study co-author Ajit Lalvani said.

The British researchers also found that vaccinated people were only somewhat less likely to contract the virus (25%) compared with the unvaccinated (38%). That conflicts with Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data showing the vaccinated are far less likely to contract COVID.

One thing is for sure: The science is uncertain on this. So, government should not be using a heavy hand to impose mandates.


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/11/03/new_vaccine_science_shows_mandates_are_unwise_146675.html
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your link does not work, but this is the Lancet study released October 29, 2021 that this bullshit article is referring to.....

What is the vaccine effect on reducing transmission in the context of the SARS-CoV-2 delta variant?
Annelies Wilder-Smith
Published:October 29, 2021 DOI:https://doi.org/10.1016/S1473-3099(21)00690-3

COVID-19 vaccines that have obtained WHO emergency use listing appear to have high efficacy against severe disease and death, but lower efficacy against non-severe infections, and emerging evidence suggests that protection against non-severe disease declines faster following vaccination than that against severe disease and death. What is less clear is whether vaccination not only directly protects individuals but reduces the risk of infection among the contacts of vaccinated people, particularly with respect to the now dominant delta variant. Before the emergence of the delta variant, it was reported that after at least one dose of the mRNA vaccine by Pfizer or the adenoviral vector vaccine by Astra Zeneca, the risk of symptomatic cases in household contacts of vaccinated cases was about 50% lower than that among household contacts of unvaccinated cases.1

The now globally dominant delta variant is more transmissible2 and associated with reduced vaccine effectiveness, particularly against mild breakthrough infections, whereas protection against severe disease is not greatly reduced.3 Data are lacking on whether the effect of vaccination on transmission is lower for the delta variant and new insights on this are provided by a study done in the UK when the delta variant was the predominant strain, reported in The Lancet Infectious Diseases.4

To address the primary study outcome to establish the secondary attack rates (SARs) in household contacts, the vaccination statuses for 232 contacts exposed to 162 epidemiologically linked delta-variant-infected index cases were analysed. The SARs in household contacts exposed to the delta variant was 25% in vaccinated and 38% in unvaccinated contacts. These results underpin the key message that vaccinated contacts are better protected than the unvaccinated. All breakthrough infections were mild, and no hospitalisations and deaths were observed. But these results also highlight that breakthrough infections continue to occur in the vaccinated, with an attack rate of 25%. Time since vaccination in fully vaccination contacts was longer for those infected than those uninfected, suggesting that waning of protection might have occurred over time, although teasing out general waning versus reduced vaccine effectiveness due to delta is challenging owing to so many confounding factors.
SAR among household contacts exposed to fully vaccinated index cases (25%; 95% CI 15–35) was similar to household contacts exposed to unvaccinated index cases (23%; 15–31). Obviously, infection might also have occurred beyond the household level with unknown exposure in the community. Indeed, genomic and virological analysis confirmed only three index-contact pairs. Owing to the small sample size, the authors were not able to establish the vaccine effectiveness against asymptomatic infections versus symptomatic infections. This limitation together with the unconfirmed source of transmission in many of these index-contact pairs, suggests that the low SAR reported here should be interpreted with caution. Nevertheless, the findings raise concern that the effect of vaccination on reducing transmission might be lower for the delta variant compared with the variants that circulated in the UK before the emergence of delta.

Infectiousness of breakthrough infections can be measured by viral densities. Higher SARS-CoV-2 viral density in the upper airways of people infected with the virus are thought to increase transmission to household members.5, 6 If vaccines reduce viral density in those who do become infected despite vaccination, it would probably lead to lower infectiousness and less onward transmission. Hence, the authors compared the viral kinetics in breakthrough delta variant infections in vaccinated people with delta variant infections in unvaccinated people. They report that peak viral loads showed a faster decline in vaccinated compared with unvaccinated people, although peak viral loads were similar for unvaccinated and vaccinated people.
Although preventing severe disease and deaths remains the primary public health goal in the acute phase of the pandemic, and is still being achieved by available COVID-19 vaccines despite the emergence of the delta variant, addressing SARS-CoV-2 transmission is a crucial additional consideration. Reducing transmission is necessary to reduce virus circulation, reach herd immunity and end this tragic pandemic. This study confirms that COVID-19 vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and also accelerates viral clearance in the context of the delta variant. However, this study unfortunately also highlights that the vaccine effect on reducing transmission is minimal in the context of delta variant circulation. These findings have immediate public health implications. Higher vaccination coverage rates need to be achieved because indirect protection from vaccinated to unvaccinated people remains suboptimal. The question of whether booster doses will improve the impact on transmission should be addressed as a top priority.7 Research efforts should be directed towards enhancing existing vaccines or developing new vaccines that also protect against asymptomatic infections and onward transmission. Until we have such vaccines, public health and social measures will still need to be tailored towards mitigating community and household transmission in order to keep the pandemic at bay.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00690-3/fulltext
 
ExpressLane said:
My fully vaccinated daughter in law just contracted COVID and gave it to her two kids. My fully vaccinated brother in law recently died from COVID. I'm fully vaccinated but I think the vaccine should be a personal choice not a mandate.
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Sorry for your loss, but you are correct. People should be able to choose and consult with their physician on this making an informed personal decision.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Sorry for your loss, but you are correct. People should be able to choose and consult with their physician on this making an informed personal decision.
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as long as they do not interact with people in public, sure. then if a company says get a vaccine or go home, they have a choice, get a vaccine or go home. same with the military, with kids, with anybody who works in close contact with people in public. fuck them if they do not like it.
 
ExpressLane said:
My fully vaccinated daughter in law just contracted COVID and gave it to her two kids. My fully vaccinated brother in law recently died from COVID. I'm fully vaccinated but I think the vaccine should be a personal choice not a mandate.
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so her kids never were around anybody but her? that is the only way you know if they got it from her, dumbass. your brother in law must have had some underlying health issues. there is no doubt the vaccine reduces the death rate by more than 10 times.
 
Vaccine worship arises from, and is zealously sponsored by, the same “experts” who masterminded the epic Covid overreaction: bureaucrats Fauci and Walensky, DEMOCRAT governors, and the leftist media, all of whom have profited personally, politically or financially from their perennial promotion of politically-motivated pandemic panic porn.

Like a weaselly salesman's pitch, the scam was obvious to me from the beginning.

Viruses are ubiquitous and respiratory infections are an unavoidable part of life. Always have been. They likely always will be.

Fortunately, such infections tend to be self-limiting.

Most healthy people are not at serious risk of dying from infections related to the Red Chinese disease and never were.

One must weigh the dubious data cited by the staunchly pro-lockdown/pro-injection government and the media carefully and consider the source.

Many months of mass psychosis later, many people are still fearful, wearing a mask (or two), even outdoors, and demanding universal “vaccination.” If their "vaccine" works, why are they so scared?
 
Nerdsperg said:
Your doctor will tell you to get the vaccine. The vaccine is a much wiser choice.
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Is that so?

The injections’ stated benefit (keeping most people out of hospitals and keeping them from dying) is easy to attain without any injections.

If you’re under 70 and reasonably healthy, the likelihood of serious Covid harm is microscopic.

Nearly 100% of healthy younger people either didn't get the Red Chinese disease, or were asymptomatic, or survived the infection, without treatment, before any vaccine was available.

Claiming that the juju juice shots keep healthy people from dying from Coronavirus is like saying your house didn’t burn down because you had a fire extinguisher in your basement.
 
Hoosier Mommy said:
as long as they do not interact with people in public, sure. then if a company says get a vaccine or go home, they have a choice, get a vaccine or go home. same with the military, with kids, with anybody who works in close contact with people in public. fuck them if they do not like it.
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The vaccines do not prevent infection or transmission.

They have a temporary and diminishing effect at best, and have to be reinforced by periodic boosters.

They're virtually worthless.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Sorry for your loss, but you are correct. People should be able to choose and consult with their physician on this making an informed personal decision.
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Choose all you want, stupid fuck. There are consequences to your choice. Including your employment.

You vaccine morons are a danger to society
 
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