First Admendment Question Regarding Newspaper Sale

cawacko

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I'm a believer in people can vote with their wallets in terms of the products they buy, locations they shop/visit, what they read or listen too etc. etc.

I'm ready this councilman's comments here and seeing as an elected official is there no problem with what he's saying vs. city council members threating media companies financially for endorsing the wrong political viewpoint. The city of LA is free to invest its money where it chooses. Does this start to cross the line though?


L.A. councilmen want city to weigh in on possible Times sale


Three Los Angeles City Council members -- including a candidate for mayor -- asked their colleagues Tuesday to consider pulling city pension money from the investment firms that own the Los Angeles Times if they sell the publication to buyers who do not support “professional and objective journalism.”

Since emerging from bankruptcy last year, Tribune Co. -- which owns eight newspapers including The Times and 23 television stations -- has been guided by a board of directors that include its largest creditors. It has been widely reported that the directors are interested in selling the newspapers, preferably all together.

Councilman Bill Rosendahl, who called for the council to act, said he was motivated by recent news reports that billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch are among those interested in buying the newspapers. The Kochs in recent national elections have provided major financial support to libertarian candidates and causes.

“Frankly what I hear about the Koch brothers, if it’s true, it’s the end of journalism,’’ said Rosendahl, a former broadcaster. “I don’t want to see Los Angeles, the second-largest city and the biggest region in the nation, not to have a quality newspaper.”

Rosendahl's motion calls on the council to support a buyer who has demonstrated “the highest terms of professional and objective journalism.” It also calls for a report on how the city can use its pension funds and other investments as leverage to achieve that goal.

“We cannot support the sale of the Times to entities who Times readers would view as a political transaction first and foremost, turning L.A.’s metropolitan daily into an ideological mouthpiece whose commitment to empirical journalism would be unproven at best,” Rosendahl wrote in the motion. “A newspaper isn’t just a business it’s also a civic trust.”

Besides Rosendahl, the motion was signed by Councilman Dennis Zine, who is running for city controller , and Councilman and mayoral hopeful Eric Garcetti. The mayoral election, which pits Garcetti against City Controller Wendy Greuel, will be held May 21.

The motion, which was not discussed by the council Tuesday, will get its first hearing in coming weeks before the council’s Budget and Finance Committee. If the measure wins approval there, it would move before the full council for consideration.

Tribune spokesman Gary Weitman declined to comment, saying it is company policy not to address speculation about any of its media properties.


http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-council-times-sale-20130430,0,7766627.story
 
I can't even understand what the hell I wrote above. Basically these LA city councilmen don't want the Koch brothers buying the LA Times and are threatening the current LA Times owners that if they sell to the Koch Brothers the city of LA will pull pension money from them.

From a first amendment perspective are the councilmen over the line or are they within reason?
 
I can't even understand what the hell I wrote above. Basically these LA city councilmen don't want the Koch brothers buying the LA Times and are threatening the current LA Times owners that if they sell to the Koch Brothers the city of LA will pull pension money from them.

From a first amendment perspective are the councilmen over the line or are they within reason?

Uhhh no, you can't pull someone's pensions because they sell to someone e you don't like.
 
Uhhh no, you can't pull someone's pensions because they sell to someone e you don't like.

actually, they can pull the pensions from the management of those companies for any reason. They have the right to voice their opinion with their cities money. That said, they open themselves up to liability from their workers should they make a move based on political reasons that ends up hurting the return of the employees money.

Is it blatantly stupid? yes... but they have the right to do so.

Just as we have the right to decide to buy the product of an actor/musician etc... that does things politically/socially that we disapprove of.
 
ROFL

They are worried that they won't have the LA Times in their pocket to push out their propaganda to the sheep.
 
What they are threatening is to pull investment from the company that owns the paper. That is perfectly legal. It may be stupid too. Everything the Koch brothers touch turns to gold. It would probably benefit individual pensioners to hold on to the company.
 
actually, they can pull the pensions from the management of those companies for any reason. They have the right to voice their opinion with their cities money. That said, they open themselves up to liability from their workers should they make a move based on political reasons that ends up hurting the return of the employees money.

Is it blatantly stupid? yes... but they have the right to do so.

Just as we have the right to decide to buy the product of an actor/musician etc... that does things politically/socially that we disapprove of.

Ah ok. I stand corrected.
 
I'm a believer in people can vote with their wallets in terms of the products they buy, locations they shop/visit, what they read or listen too etc. etc.

I'm ready this councilman's comments here and seeing as an elected official is there no problem with what he's saying vs. city council members threating media companies financially for endorsing the wrong political viewpoint. The city of LA is free to invest its money where it chooses. Does this start to cross the line though?


L.A. councilmen want city to weigh in on possible Times sale


Three Los Angeles City Council members -- including a candidate for mayor -- asked their colleagues Tuesday to consider pulling city pension money from the investment firms that own the Los Angeles Times if they sell the publication to buyers who do not support “professional and objective journalism.”

Since emerging from bankruptcy last year, Tribune Co. -- which owns eight newspapers including The Times and 23 television stations -- has been guided by a board of directors that include its largest creditors. It has been widely reported that the directors are interested in selling the newspapers, preferably all together.

Councilman Bill Rosendahl, who called for the council to act, said he was motivated by recent news reports that billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch are among those interested in buying the newspapers. The Kochs in recent national elections have provided major financial support to libertarian candidates and causes.

“Frankly what I hear about the Koch brothers, if it’s true, it’s the end of journalism,’’ said Rosendahl, a former broadcaster. “I don’t want to see Los Angeles, the second-largest city and the biggest region in the nation, not to have a quality newspaper.”

Rosendahl's motion calls on the council to support a buyer who has demonstrated “the highest terms of professional and objective journalism.” It also calls for a report on how the city can use its pension funds and other investments as leverage to achieve that goal.

“We cannot support the sale of the Times to entities who Times readers would view as a political transaction first and foremost, turning L.A.’s metropolitan daily into an ideological mouthpiece whose commitment to empirical journalism would be unproven at best,” Rosendahl wrote in the motion. “A newspaper isn’t just a business it’s also a civic trust.”

Besides Rosendahl, the motion was signed by Councilman Dennis Zine, who is running for city controller , and Councilman and mayoral hopeful Eric Garcetti. The mayoral election, which pits Garcetti against City Controller Wendy Greuel, will be held May 21.

The motion, which was not discussed by the council Tuesday, will get its first hearing in coming weeks before the council’s Budget and Finance Committee. If the measure wins approval there, it would move before the full council for consideration.

Tribune spokesman Gary Weitman declined to comment, saying it is company policy not to address speculation about any of its media properties.


http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-council-times-sale-20130430,0,7766627.story

i think that 'news' organizations should report the news without political bias or at the least keep their politics in the editorial section and not the rest of the news
 
I can't even understand what the hell I wrote above. Basically these LA city councilmen don't want the Koch brothers buying the LA Times and are threatening the current LA Times owners that if they sell to the Koch Brothers the city of LA will pull pension money from them.

From a first amendment perspective are the councilmen over the line or are they within reason?

no, it is their money and they can vote with it as to where they choose to invest it. this has not only been done by various public and private institutions, but said institutions have been encouraged to do this
 
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