Evangelicals fume as GOP surrenders in gay marriage wars

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When I started on this forum this was one of the most prominent and high-profile debate topics; liberals holding that same-sex marriage should be legal, conservatives largely claiming that it was immoral or would portend the doom of traditional marriages.

The GOP waves white flag in the same-sex marriage wars

The Republican Party has moved on from one of the most seminal culture war debates, even as evangelicals fume.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/16/republicans-gay-marriage-wars-505041
 
Back in those days the American people had a say in who could or couldn't get married. The courts took away our voices, and since then the drums began beating for government recognition of polygamy and incest.

What argument is there against them now? Immoral won't work. You said so yourself.

Good work 👍
 
When I started on this forum this was one of the most prominent and high-profile debate topics; liberals holding that same-sex marriage should be legal, conservatives largely claiming that it was immoral or would portend the doom of traditional marriages.

Looks like someone in the RNC made the calculation that there are more LGBTQ ppl and allies than there are anti-SSM/rights ppl in the evangelical contingent. They also saw the writing on the wall as far as their base's demographics go.
 
When I started on this forum this was one of the most prominent and high-profile debate topics; liberals holding that same-sex marriage should be legal, conservatives largely claiming that it was immoral or would portend the doom of traditional marriages.

Republicans only cared about gay marriage because it was an easy wedge issue to get the closeminded
On the Down Low redneck vote.
 
Back in those days the American people had a say in who could or couldn't get married. The courts took away our voices, and since then the drums began beating for government recognition of polygamy and incest.

What argument is there against them now? Immoral won't work. You said so yourself.

Good work ��

If I believe something is genuinely wrong I do not throw in the towel and surrender.

It sounds like GOP leadership always just considered gay marriage a phony culture war issue to motivate the rubes, much like wars on Christmas, critical race theory, and the imminent threat of sharia law
 
If I believe something is genuinely wrong I do not throw in the towel and surrender.

It sounds like GOP leadership always just considered gay marriage a phony culture war issue to motivate the rubes, much like wars on Christmas, critical race theory, and the imminent threat of sharia law

So you will throw in the towel on polygamy and incest?
 
If I believe something is genuinely wrong I do not throw in the towel and surrender.

It sounds like GOP leadership always just considered gay marriage a phony culture war issue to motivate the rubes, much like wars on Christmas, critical race theory, and the imminent threat of sharia law

Exactly.
 
So you will throw in the towel on polygamy and incest?

You're trying to equate three different things that are not at all alike. Polygamy and incestuous marriage are still illegal in all 50 states, and have zero to do with SSM. BTW, you forgot to throw in bestiality. :laugh:
 
Looks like someone in the RNC made the calculation that there are more LGBTQ ppl and allies than there are anti-SSM/rights ppl in the evangelical contingent. They also saw the writing on the wall as far as their base's demographics go.
I think all the polling indicates no one cares about it anymore outside of the bible thumpers.

These phony GOP culture war wedge issues always have a limited shelf life. We haven't heard about the dire threat of sharia law in a while, and after The next election cycle, we will probably be waving goodbye to critical race theory
 
You are shooting blanks. The incest argument didn't work for you from 2000 to 2020, there is no reason to believe it will work for you in 2021

How is saying I am shooting blacks a cogent response to your support of incest and polygamy?
 
Trying to resurrect arguments you lost two decades ago is not going to advance your dream of banning gay people from marriage

Coming from someone with roots in the Russian empire.

Russia has the lowest rate of LGBTQ support & LGBTQ rights in the European continent.
 
Trying to resurrect arguments you lost two decades ago is not going to advance your dream of banning gay people from marriage

But saying I am shooting black people will prevent polygamy and incest?

Or do you favor those as well?
 
Gay marriage has been legal for a long time now, shockingly my heterosexual marriage has not crumbled. People are still not allowed to marry dogs and cats. Western civilization as we know it has not collapsed. God has not struck us down.

All of the conservative predictions of doom and gloom have disappeared.

Funny, it’s the same with Obamacare, doctors are still practicing medicine, there are no death panels, it’s almost as if the conservatives are full of shit.
 
When I started on this forum this was one of the most prominent and high-profile debate topics; liberals holding that same-sex marriage should be legal, conservatives largely claiming that it was immoral or would portend the doom of traditional marriages.

Should every vote count yes or no? Answer that question!!!!!
 
Gay marriage has been legal for a long time now, shockingly my heterosexual marriage has not crumbled. People are still not allowed to marry dogs and cats. Western civilization as we know it has not collapsed. God has not struck us down.

All of the conservative predictions of doom and gloom have disappeared.

Funny, it’s the same with Obamacare, doctors are still practicing medicine, there are no death panels, it’s almost as if the conservatives are full of shit.

Obamacare was supposed to crash the economy
 
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