England Beat the All Blacks

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New Zealand, who had won their last nine games against England and not dropped a European tour game for 10 years, were 12/1 on favourites at the start. But they were outplayed in every department by a callow England team beaten by Australia and South Africa in the last two weeks, who chalked up their highest score and record margin against a team being touted as the best ever to have played the game.

England deservedly led 12-0 at half-time via the boot of Owen Farrell and, though the All Blacks closed to within a point with quickfire tries to Julian Savea and Keiran Read, the hosts roared back with tries by Brad Barritt, an inspired Manu Tuilagi and Chris Ashton.

New Zealand, perhaps suffering the effects of an illness bug that hit the camp this week, got another late Savea try but England, with only 206 caps in their starting XV to the 789 of their feted rivals, dominated to the whistle to end coach Stuart Lancaster's first year in charge on an unexpected high.
It was a result nobody saw coming after the contrasting fortunes of the two teams in their previous outings over the last three weeks. But from the moment the Haka was drowned out by a rousing rendition of "Sweet Chariot" New Zealand knew they were not going to have things all their own way and the England players certainly played their part in taking it to them.

Strong in the scrum, massively aggressive at the breakdown and tackle and determined in their running lines, they never allowed the All Blacks a moment to breathe.

The world champions barely threatened England's line in the first half and even Dan Carter, who has known only unending personal and team success against the men in white in nine previous victories, was off key as he missed two penalties he would normally have gobbled up and screwed one clearance horribly.

This week's listing of Farrell alongside Carter on the shortlist as world player of the year was greeted with incredulity in the rugby world but it was the youngster who cannot even command the fly-half starting berth at his own club who looked the most accomplished number 10 on duty on Saturday.
Farrell slotted all three of his penalty attempts, including one just shy of halfway after 40 minutes, and clipped over a drop goal as England reached halftime in a relative dream world.

New Zealand had never been close to being tested in their three previous tour wins over Scotland, Italy and Wales and coach Steve Hansen would have earned his money in the changing rooms as his players came to terms with the unaccustomed situation having not reached half-time pointless since losing to South Africa in Wellington in 1998.

Another Farrell penalty straight after the restart made it 15-0 but the visitors hit back quickly and devastatingly with two tries in three minutes.
Powerful left wing Savea showed great strength to touch down his 11th try in nine matches before more high-speed passing opened a huge hole for number eight Read. Carter also rediscovered his touch by converting both from wide on the left.

England did not buckle, though, and scored the sort of try the Twickenham fans have been crying out for so long as Barritt burst clear and exchanged passes with fellow centre Tuilagi before squeezing in. Two minutes later Tuilagi blasted through three tackles and brilliantly delayed his pass to Ashton who showed all the frustration of 11 games without a try to dive spectacularly over the line.

New Zealand did not know what had hit them, missed tackle after tackle and when Tuilagi intercepted again to score another try England's lead of 32-14 was their highest score ever against the All Blacks. Lancaster could even afford the luxury of bringing on Freddie Burns for his debut at fly-half, and he slotted two penalties to leave the shell-shocked All Blacks staring at potentially their worst defeat, surpassing the 28-7 loss to Australia 13 years ago.

Savea added his second try to limit the damage but it was little consolation as England who easily surpassed their record win in the fixture, a 13-0 success in 1936. The All Blacks go into Monday's draw for the 2015 World Cup still favourites to retain their title back at Twickenham in three years' time but England, down amongst the second tier of seeds, will look ahead with a totally different mindset.


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Well,....congratulations to merry ole England.....seriously.....

A now I have to ask, is the team named 'All Blacks' race based ?
 
Well,....congratulations to merry ole England.....seriously.....

A now I have to ask, is the team named 'All Blacks' race based ?

I wondered how long it would be before somebody made a stupid comment like that. They are called the All Blacks because...wait for it...they wear an all black strip!! The New Zealand football side is called the All Whites. Have you heard of the Haka?

 
I wondered how long it would be before somebody made a stupid comment like that. They are called the All Blacks because...wait for it...they wear an all black strip!! The New Zealand football side is called the All Whites. Have you heard of the Haka?

Nope, I'm totally unfamiliar with the European football and its teams or uniforms or players.....sorry if the question came across as stupid to you.....
Whats the name of your team from England ?.....
 
Nope, I'm totally unfamiliar with the European football and its teams or uniforms or players.....sorry if the question came across as stupid to you.....
Whats the name of your team from England ?.....

It's not football, it is Rugby and New Zealand is not in Europe. The England Rugby team doesn't have a special name like the NZ team or the South Africans who are called the Springboks. Rugby Union is becoming a worldwide game these days, with teams from all over the world including Argentina, Tonga, Fiji, Romania, Italy, France, South Africa, Ireland, Wales, Scotland and England.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_union
 
It's not football, it is Rugby and New Zealand is not in Europe. The England Rugby team doesn't have a special name like the NZ team or the South Africans who are called the Springboks. Rugby Union is becoming a worldwide game these days, with teams from all over the world including Argentina, Tonga, Fiji, Romania, Italy, France, South Africa, Ireland, Wales, Scotland and England.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_union

Well, YOU called it football....as in "The New Zealand football side is called the All Whites."

I wasn't gonna contradict you, you're the expert and I didn't say New Zealand was in Europe.

You're from England and can't understand what you read in English ?

And my pc says "European football is a colloquial term referring to any international football club competition that is organised by UEFA.
 
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New Zealand, who had won their last nine games against England and not dropped a European tour game for 10 years, were 12/1 on favourites at the start. But they were outplayed in every department by a callow England team beaten by Australia and South Africa in the last two weeks, who chalked up their highest score and record margin against a team being touted as the best ever to have played the game.

England deservedly led 12-0 at half-time via the boot of Owen Farrell and, though the All Blacks closed to within a point with quickfire tries to Julian Savea and Keiran Read, the hosts roared back with tries by Brad Barritt, an inspired Manu Tuilagi and Chris Ashton.

New Zealand, perhaps suffering the effects of an illness bug that hit the camp this week, got another late Savea try but England, with only 206 caps in their starting XV to the 789 of their feted rivals, dominated to the whistle to end coach Stuart Lancaster's first year in charge on an unexpected high.
It was a result nobody saw coming after the contrasting fortunes of the two teams in their previous outings over the last three weeks. But from the moment the Haka was drowned out by a rousing rendition of "Sweet Chariot" New Zealand knew they were not going to have things all their own way and the England players certainly played their part in taking it to them.

Strong in the scrum, massively aggressive at the breakdown and tackle and determined in their running lines, they never allowed the All Blacks a moment to breathe.

The world champions barely threatened England's line in the first half and even Dan Carter, who has known only unending personal and team success against the men in white in nine previous victories, was off key as he missed two penalties he would normally have gobbled up and screwed one clearance horribly.

This week's listing of Farrell alongside Carter on the shortlist as world player of the year was greeted with incredulity in the rugby world but it was the youngster who cannot even command the fly-half starting berth at his own club who looked the most accomplished number 10 on duty on Saturday.
Farrell slotted all three of his penalty attempts, including one just shy of halfway after 40 minutes, and clipped over a drop goal as England reached halftime in a relative dream world.

New Zealand had never been close to being tested in their three previous tour wins over Scotland, Italy and Wales and coach Steve Hansen would have earned his money in the changing rooms as his players came to terms with the unaccustomed situation having not reached half-time pointless since losing to South Africa in Wellington in 1998.

Another Farrell penalty straight after the restart made it 15-0 but the visitors hit back quickly and devastatingly with two tries in three minutes.
Powerful left wing Savea showed great strength to touch down his 11th try in nine matches before more high-speed passing opened a huge hole for number eight Read. Carter also rediscovered his touch by converting both from wide on the left.

England did not buckle, though, and scored the sort of try the Twickenham fans have been crying out for so long as Barritt burst clear and exchanged passes with fellow centre Tuilagi before squeezing in. Two minutes later Tuilagi blasted through three tackles and brilliantly delayed his pass to Ashton who showed all the frustration of 11 games without a try to dive spectacularly over the line.

New Zealand did not know what had hit them, missed tackle after tackle and when Tuilagi intercepted again to score another try England's lead of 32-14 was their highest score ever against the All Blacks. Lancaster could even afford the luxury of bringing on Freddie Burns for his debut at fly-half, and he slotted two penalties to leave the shell-shocked All Blacks staring at potentially their worst defeat, surpassing the 28-7 loss to Australia 13 years ago.

Savea added his second try to limit the damage but it was little consolation as England who easily surpassed their record win in the fixture, a 13-0 success in 1936. The All Blacks go into Monday's draw for the 2015 World Cup still favourites to retain their title back at Twickenham in three years' time but England, down amongst the second tier of seeds, will look ahead with a totally different mindset.


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I wondered how long it would be before somebody made a stupid comment like that. They are called the All Blacks because...wait for it...they wear an all black strip!! The New Zealand football side is called the All Whites. Have you heard of the Haka?

Why is that a stupid comment? At least they asked instead of going off on you. And I am sure most of us assume a post in the Current Events forum would not be strictly sports related, because most sports related threads go in the forum that is specifically for them.

The overwhelming majority of the people in this forum live in the US. The sport you are discussing is not very popular in the US. Try not being a prick and you might find some people willing to discuss things with you.
 
New Zealand, who had won their last nine games against England and not dropped a European tour game for 10 years, were 12/1 on favourites at the start. But they were outplayed in every department by a callow England team beaten by Australia and South Africa in the last two weeks, who chalked up their highest score and record margin against a team being touted as the best ever to have played the game.

England deservedly led 12-0 at half-time via the boot of Owen Farrell and, though the All Blacks closed to within a point with quickfire tries to Julian Savea and Keiran Read, the hosts roared back with tries by Brad Barritt, an inspired Manu Tuilagi and Chris Ashton.

New Zealand, perhaps suffering the effects of an illness bug that hit the camp this week, got another late Savea try but England, with only 206 caps in their starting XV to the 789 of their feted rivals, dominated to the whistle to end coach Stuart Lancaster's first year in charge on an unexpected high.
It was a result nobody saw coming after the contrasting fortunes of the two teams in their previous outings over the last three weeks. But from the moment the Haka was drowned out by a rousing rendition of "Sweet Chariot" New Zealand knew they were not going to have things all their own way and the England players certainly played their part in taking it to them.

Strong in the scrum, massively aggressive at the breakdown and tackle and determined in their running lines, they never allowed the All Blacks a moment to breathe.

The world champions barely threatened England's line in the first half and even Dan Carter, who has known only unending personal and team success against the men in white in nine previous victories, was off key as he missed two penalties he would normally have gobbled up and screwed one clearance horribly.

This week's listing of Farrell alongside Carter on the shortlist as world player of the year was greeted with incredulity in the rugby world but it was the youngster who cannot even command the fly-half starting berth at his own club who looked the most accomplished number 10 on duty on Saturday.
Farrell slotted all three of his penalty attempts, including one just shy of halfway after 40 minutes, and clipped over a drop goal as England reached halftime in a relative dream world.

New Zealand had never been close to being tested in their three previous tour wins over Scotland, Italy and Wales and coach Steve Hansen would have earned his money in the changing rooms as his players came to terms with the unaccustomed situation having not reached half-time pointless since losing to South Africa in Wellington in 1998.

Another Farrell penalty straight after the restart made it 15-0 but the visitors hit back quickly and devastatingly with two tries in three minutes.
Powerful left wing Savea showed great strength to touch down his 11th try in nine matches before more high-speed passing opened a huge hole for number eight Read. Carter also rediscovered his touch by converting both from wide on the left.

England did not buckle, though, and scored the sort of try the Twickenham fans have been crying out for so long as Barritt burst clear and exchanged passes with fellow centre Tuilagi before squeezing in. Two minutes later Tuilagi blasted through three tackles and brilliantly delayed his pass to Ashton who showed all the frustration of 11 games without a try to dive spectacularly over the line.

New Zealand did not know what had hit them, missed tackle after tackle and when Tuilagi intercepted again to score another try England's lead of 32-14 was their highest score ever against the All Blacks. Lancaster could even afford the luxury of bringing on Freddie Burns for his debut at fly-half, and he slotted two penalties to leave the shell-shocked All Blacks staring at potentially their worst defeat, surpassing the 28-7 loss to Australia 13 years ago.

Savea added his second try to limit the damage but it was little consolation as England who easily surpassed their record win in the fixture, a 13-0 success in 1936. The All Blacks go into Monday's draw for the 2015 World Cup still favourites to retain their title back at Twickenham in three years' time but England, down amongst the second tier of seeds, will look ahead with a totally different mindset.


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How could England get rid of a David Beckam, who was one of the best soccer players from Britain since the great Kevin Keegan, with all his curley hair. I am from the era of Franz Bechenbower, Setmaier, Diego Maradona and Zico. The finest Golee/Keeper that I have ever seen was Sweden's Ronnie Helstrom, you may not have heard of him, but he was tremendous, because he was on a bad defensive team that always made the World Cup.
 
How could England get rid of a David Beckam, who was one of the best soccer players from Britain since the great Kevin Keegan, with all his curley hair. I am from the era of Franz Bechenbower, Setmaier, Diego Maradona and Zico. The finest Golee/Keeper that I have ever seen was Sweden's Ronnie Helstrom, you may not have heard of him, but he was tremendous, because he was on a bad defensive team that always made the World Cup.
Sheet are you talking about Australian Rules Football or Rugby? Sorry about that, I do love soccer though, never played the game in school but I learned it and I actually was an assistant coach years ago.
 
Sheet are you talking about Australian Rules Football or Rugby? Sorry about that, I do love soccer though, never played the game in school but I learned it and I actually was an assistant coach years ago.

I am talking about Rugby, the All Blacks are the giants of that world and they are not beaten very often.
 
How could England get rid of a David Beckam, who was one of the best soccer players from Britain since the great Kevin Keegan, with all his curley hair. I am from the era of Franz Bechenbower, Setmaier, Diego Maradona and Zico. The finest Golee/Keeper that I have ever seen was Sweden's Ronnie Helstrom, you may not have heard of him, but he was tremendous, because he was on a bad defensive team that always made the World Cup.

I didn't realise you were into football (soccer) and yes, I have heard of Ronnie Helstrom, he was the Swedish goalkeeper in the 1970 World Cup in Mexico.
 
Why is that a stupid comment? At least they asked instead of going off on you. And I am sure most of us assume a post in the Current Events forum would not be strictly sports related, because most sports related threads go in the forum that is specifically for them.

The overwhelming majority of the people in this forum live in the US. The sport you are discussing is not very popular in the US. Try not being a prick and you might find some people willing to discuss things with you.

I reserve the right to be a prick on occasion. I know it's not very popular and I also know that if I'd posted it in the sports section it would have been totally ignored. I can't understand why it isn't more widely known as it has many of the elements of American Football including high scores although they don't dress themselves as if going into a war zone.

To Bravo: Sorry for being so abrupt.
 
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Rugby is huge in New England.
All the decent schools have teams.
There are dozens of teams in the Boston area, a nice amature league too!
 
I didn't realise you were into football (soccer) and yes, I have heard of Ronnie Helstrom, he was the Swedish goalkeeper in the 1970 World Cup in Mexico.
The three sports that I watch the most are Tennis, Golf, and Soccer, especially the World cup. The English soccer teams used long balls to fast wingers into the corners. The Germans played "Total Soccer", where the team moves up and back as a unit. The Latin teams were more a group of individual playing styles, all great ball handlers. The ideal situations would be to get a German or Dutch coach (Jojan Crueff) to run a team, say from Argentina or Brazil. The key to playing soccer is moving without the ball to open spaces, if a defender does not go with you, then you get the ball. You do not move in straight lines, always like checkers. I personally like the idea of shaddowing the other teams great player with fresh defensive players, one comes out, a new fresh defensive player goes in, out and in again, wear the star player out, you concur? I closely follow our local PGA Tour Golfer, Rickie Fowler, ever since he attended Murrieta Valley High School.
 
How could England get rid of a David Beckam, who was one of the best soccer players from Britain since the great Kevin Keegan, with all his curley hair. I am from the era of Franz Bechenbower, Setmaier, Diego Maradona and Zico. The finest Golee/Keeper that I have ever seen was Sweden's Ronnie Helstrom, you may not have heard of him, but he was tremendous, because he was on a bad defensive team that always made the World Cup.
Beckham was mediocre at best, yes a good dead ball kick, but less than usefull in play.
Keegan was determined but not amazing.

The last true great in the English game was Stanley Matthews.

Greatest ever?
Americans say pele.
Brits say Georgie best.
Some say maradonna.

For me, it has to be zidane!
 
Beckham was mediocre at best, yes a good dead ball kick, but less than usefull in play.
Keegan was determined but not amazing.

The last true great in the English game was Stanley Matthews.

Greatest ever?
Americans say pele.
Brits say Georgie best.
Some say maradonna.

For me, it has to be zidane!
I'm sorry I forget George Best, who was a wonderful player. I thought that Johan Crueff, Diego Maradona and Franz Beckanbauer were the best, and I would add George Best to that list. Whenever I saw David Beckham play, I was amazed at how he could curve the ball both ways, but I always got the impression that the Brits did not like him, maybe they don't like the Spice Girls, who I have saw in concert once.
 
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