Drill baby drill... Ill bet they retire that line...

Jarod

Jarod

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Have you seen the mess that is just 17 miles from the Louisiana Coast?


You wont hear Palin saying Drill baby drill again any time soon!
 
Yes you will tool. Are you going to using gasoline as of today. Or you just trying to be a lame ass uninformed on energy liberal as usual.
 
Topspin said:
Yes you will tool. Are you going to using gasoline as of today. Or you just trying to be a lame ass uninformed on energy liberal as usual.
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exactly....that spill doesn't change the need to ween us off foreign dependency...

better if we could ween ourselves off oil....but that is unlikely for another hundred years
 
Jarod said:
Have you seen the mess that is just 17 miles from the Louisiana Coast?


You wont hear Palin saying Drill baby drill again any time soon!
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You had to start a new thread on this? Friggin idiot.

Only the knee jerk reactionaries are spouting off about no more off shore drilling.

Had BP installed the auto shut off valve (which should be made mandatory after this) then this incident would not have been as devastating.
 
Gotta agree with the OP. Maybe we need to drill, but I seriously doubt you'll hear a phrase like this in the next campaign.
 
We will clean it up. Maybe we need to require automatic BOP. Still means thousands of high paying jobs and billions of dollars reduced trade deficit.
 
Topspin said:
Yes you will tool. Are you going to using gasoline as of today. Or you just trying to be a lame ass uninformed on energy liberal as usual.
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No I wont, she will not change her position, but she wont be chearleading, "Drill baby Drill" for quite a while. Idiot
 
Jarod said:
No I wont, she will not change her position, but she wont be chearleading, "Drill baby Drill" for quite a while. Idiot
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You won't use gas anymore? I'll give you props for that. Change starts with just one person. What are you going to do walk or bike everywhere or do you have good public transportation near you?
 
Superfreak said:
You had to start a new thread on this? Friggin idiot.

Only the knee jerk reactionaries are spouting off about no more off shore drilling.

Had BP installed the auto shut off valve (which should be made mandatory after this) then this incident would not have been as devastating.
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I keep hearing you guys talk about this auto shut off valve. Where are you getting your information that is would have prevented the spill? It just seems like far too simple an answer to say that this valve would have saved the day notwithstanding that there were two explosion on the rig and it sunk into the sea.
 
NigelTufnel said:
I keep hearing you guys talk about this auto shut off valve. Where are you getting your information that is would have prevented the spill? It just seems like far too simple an answer to say that this valve would have saved the day notwithstanding that there were two explosion on the rig and it sunk into the sea.
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on a deep sea oil rig, before the drilling actually takes place, a very large concrete base is poured and mounted on the sea floor. There is an auto shut off valve built in to this concrete base that is supposed to close in the event of a disconnect with the rig.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
on a deep sea oil rig, before the drilling actually takes place, a very large concrete base is poured and mounted on the sea floor. There is an auto shut off valve built in to this concrete base that is supposed to close in the event of a disconnect with the rig.
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My understanding is that the thing that this rig lacked was an acoustic remote controlled shut off switch, but that it had the other safety equipment, including a "dead man switch" and "blowout preventer" that failed.

I'm just trying to get a sense of what this rig lacked (as opposed to had and failed) that people seem to think would have prevented this disaster.


Edit: Most of my information is coming from this article:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704423504575212031417936798.html
 
This is frightening:

The worst-case scenario for the broken and leaking well gushing oil into the Gulf of Mexico would be the loss of the wellhead currently restricting the flow to 5,000 barrels -- or 210,000 gallons per day.

If the wellhead is lost, oil could leave the well at a much greater rate, perhaps up to 150,000 barrels -- or more than 6 million gallons per day -- based on government data showing daily production at another deepwater Gulf well.

By comparison, the Exxon Valdez spill was 11 million gallons total. The Gulf spill could end up dumping the equivalent of 4 Exxon Valdez spills per week.
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Hopefully, this worst-case scenario won't come to pass.


http://blog.al.com/live/2010/04/gulf_mexico_oil_spill_worst_case.html
 
Topspin said:
Brazill and Norwat require the accoustic switch. We don't.
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Yeah, I read that. My question is whether the folks that are talking about this shut off valve that allegedly could have prevented this disaster are talking about the acoustic switch or something else entirely.
 
NigelTufnel said:
Yeah, I read that. My question is whether the folks that are talking about this shut off valve that allegedly could have prevented this disaster are talking about the acoustic switch or something else entirely.
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thats a question we're waiting to have answered either by BP or Halliburton.
 
cawacko said:
You won't use gas anymore? I'll give you props for that. Change starts with just one person. What are you going to do walk or bike everywhere or do you have good public transportation near you?
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He will also have to boycott plastics! And make sure that public transportation isn't using an oil-based fuel source. Good luck Jarhead!
 
SmarterThanYou said:
thats a question we're waiting to have answered either by BP or Halliburton.
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I'm not sure what you mean. SF, Oncelor and others (I think) have been talking about this shut off valve issue and seemingly contend that whatever it is they are talking about could have prevented this disaster. I'm trying to figure out what they are talking about.
 
NigelTufnel said:
I'm not sure what you mean. SF, Oncelor and others (I think) have been talking about this shut off valve issue and seemingly contend that whatever it is they are talking about could have prevented this disaster. I'm trying to figure out what they are talking about.
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From what I have seen, there is no way it would have prevented it, but it could have lessened the impact by a pretty large degree (I am not versed on this, though - I have only seen it discussed, and it makes sense)....
 
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