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Trump Jr.’s testimony shines spotlight on ex-CFO’s authority
The role of former Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg was once again scrutinized as Donald Trump Jr. became the first of the former president’s children to take the witness stand.

Dive Brief:

- Trump Organization ex-CFO Allen Weisselberg would have had authority over the approval of business decisions, Donald Trump Jr. said in testimony Wednesday during New York’s $250 million civil fraud trial against former President Donald Trump.

- Weisselberg’s approval would have been needed on “some things and on other things I had autonomy,” Donald Trump Jr., the son of the former President and an EVP in the Trump Organization, testified Wednesday.

- Trump Jr. testified he “wouldn’t have conducted a refinancing without the involvement of our CFO,” but would have had leeway to conduct a licensing agreement overseas, the former president’s son said when asked by Assistant Attorney General Colleen Faherty what actions Weisselberg would have had authority over. After his father became president, Trump Jr testified that he, his brother and Weisselberg had authority for business decisions at the top of the Trump Organization. They would not have reported to the former president for business decisions.

Dive Insight:

Trump Jr., an EVP of the Trump Organization, was the first of the three eldest Trump children to take the stand. ..

Assistant AG Faherty also questioned Trump Jr. as to the reason behind Weisselberg’s departure from the Trump Organization as well as his removal as a trustee. Trump Jr. was not able to recall the specifics of why Weisselberg left other than that his departure followed some “legal issues he got into,” he said.

The spotlight has swung onto the Trump children this week as New York Attorney General Letitia James’ civil trial against the former president continues. The suit alleges that Trump, along with three of his adult children and senior executives including Weisselberg, also a named defendant in the case, falsely inflated his net worth by billions of dollars to secure bank loans for the Trump Organization on more favorable terms than would otherwise have been available.

Trump Jr.’s testimony came after assertions Tuesday by David Orowitz, formerly the SVP of acquisitions and development at the Trump Organization, that Ivanka Trump was involved in loan negotiations for several key Trump properties in Chicago, Miami and Washington, D.C. Ivanka Trump was involved with Trump’s Old Post Office property in Washington, D.C., Orowitz said Wednesday in a continuation of his testimony. Weisselberg, as the organization’s CFO, was also involved in these negotiations.

“Ivanka wanted me to change the language in the GAAP section. She asked that I review with you,” Orowitz wrote in a 2011 email to Weisselberg, referring to generally accepted accounting principles relating to the OPO property. Any change to GAAP measures would have required Weisselberg’s approval as CFO, Orowitz affirmed when asked.

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“Leave my children alone,” former President Trump said to Judge Engoron in a Wednesday post on Truth Social, where he called the judge “a disgrace to the legal profession.”

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FLOL. Will anyone be shocked to see each and every Trump child take the stand and point the finger at Alan?

It has been said for a while that Alvin Bragg is considered another set of criminal charges against Trump org and certain individuals and will put Alan in the crosshairs again. I hope he goes right at Alan again, using the Trump kids testimony to hang him high and ask the judge for repeat offender sentencing that will see him jailed for the rest of his life.

Alan sold himself to the devil, accepting going to jail and accepting all blame and in return Trump awarded him a raise and bonuses to ensure Alan profited from this crime but tying it to his continued employment remaining in good stead. Meaning, 'keep taking all the heat for us and you can have this money'.


The Magat Trump derps see Trumps former lawyer go to jail for crimes done to benefit Trump and his org, and his CFO go to jail for crimes done to benefit Trump and his org, and they see nothing wrong with that. That none of that suggests any Trump guilt. But Biden writing or receiving a 'check' is proof positive of guilt. Trump's checks to Cohen, which were hush money, nope. Trumps check to Alan, nope.

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i've been wanting to create a Venn diagram showing all the over lapping circles of people who have gone to Jail doing things in service to Donald Trump and Companies Trump has controlled being found to have been guilty offraud, but it really is a huge task that will take a lot of time.

You have, but not limited to:

Circle 1 - Trump Org in the middle with both COhen and Weisselberg going to jail.

Circle 2 - Trump 2016 campaign, with Manfort and other going to jail.

Circle 3 - Trump Executive Branch (once he became POTUS) with some 90+ plus indictments

Circle 4 - Trump Org companies such as his University and Charity, etc.

Circle 5 - ?


The entire periphery encircling this man is a web of indicted criminals and jail time for those working in service to him, and the finding of consistent fraud in all his businesses before they get shut down.

Nothing defines Trump more than that. It is the most consistent FACT in his life.
 
Got to love Junior’s defense, he’s not an accountant, just a real estate salesman, he put all his faith in the finance experts who told him to sign the papers, it was their responsibility. I suspect that will be the other Trumps’ defense, they’re not responsible just because they signed documents authorizing the handling of millions of dollars. That wouldn’t even fly on Judge Judy

Of all of Trump’s trials, this could hurt, he has already been found guilty of fraud, and a substantial penalty plus possible consequences could not only set him back financially but destroy the reputation he always boasts as a brilliant billionaire businessman. And it is a State Civil case, even his own Presidential pardon won’t get him out of it
 
QP! said:
i've been wanting to create a Venn diagram showing all the over lapping circles of people who have gone to Jail doing things in service to Donald Trump and Companies Trump has controlled being found to have been guilty offraud, but it really is a huge task that will take a lot of time.

You have, but not limited to:

Circle 1 - Trump Org in the middle with both COhen and Weisselberg going to jail.

Circle 2 - Trump 2016 campaign, with Manfort and other going to jail.

Circle 3 - Trump Executive Branch (once he became POTUS) with some 90+ plus indictments

Circle 4 - Trump Org companies such as his University and Charity, etc.

Circle 5 - ?


The entire periphery encircling this man is a web of indicted criminals and jail time for those working in service to him, and the finding of consistent fraud in all his businesses before they get shut down.

Nothing defines Trump more than that. It is the most consistent FACT in his life.
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As I said before, Trump is a faithful disciple of Roy Cohn, do whatever you want and don’t stop until you are actually forced to stop regardless of legalities, ethics or morality
 
archives said:
As I said before, Trump is a faithful disciple of Roy Cohn, do whatever you want and don’t stop until you are actually forced to stop regardless of legalities, ethics or morality
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Never put it writing and say things like “handle it”, don’t give details.
 
archives said:
As I said before, Trump is a faithful disciple of Roy Cohn, do whatever you want and don’t stop until you are actually forced to stop regardless of legalities, ethics or morality
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Yeah agreed.

But what is shocking is how many people are willing to take that ride with Trump, when he is the one that gains the vast majority of the benefit while he ensures they all take the risk.

That is why Trump speaks in code, so he has deniability on the actions they take for him. So he can escape any charges when they cannot.
 
Jarod said:
How is it going to help if they say Weisselberg committed the fraud?
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they are trying to create the 'we relied on professional advice and thus had no intent to commit crimes' defense.

Honest reliance on lawyers and accountants does allow one to avoid any crime but it then transfers the blame to 'professionals' who cannot hide behind any such defense as they are 'required to know' the law.


So they are throwing Allen Weisselberg, under the bus again, and i hope ALvin Bragg gets in and drives that bus all over him again.

I want to see Trump cry about how terrible it is that poor Alan is being prosecuted again, while ignoring they are the ones pointing the fingers at him and saying 'he is the guilty one'.
 
BidenPresident said:
Eric Trump is still declining to acknowledge that he was familiar with the annual financial statements. He has acknowledged having understood that financial statements were floating about, but he is drawing a distinction between the annnual statements in question and statements more generally. Regardless, he insists, he wasn’t paying much attention.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/11/02/nyregion/trump-fraud-trial
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Great way to run the company. The judge will find him as believable as he did his dad when he took the stand on he gag order issue.
 
Are they so dumb as to think it matters who committed the fraud within the company?
 
BidenPresident said:
Eric Trump is still declining to acknowledge that he was familiar with the annual financial statements. He has acknowledged having understood that financial statements were floating about, but he is drawing a distinction between the annnual statements in question and statements more generally. Regardless, he insists, he wasn’t paying much attention.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/11/02/nyregion/trump-fraud-trial
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Phantasmal said:
Great way to run the company. The judge will find him as believable as he did his dad when he took the stand on he gag order issue.
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Jarod said:
Are they so dumb as to think it matters who committed the fraud within the company?
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Yup and Don Jr is spinning the same line. He just followed what Allen Weisselberg and the accountants said and did and he did not know anything himself.

As the executive (Don and ERic) signing off on the documents you are attesting you have reviewed, understand them and verify them.

So this 'throw Alan under the bus' does nothing to save them or the company from guilt, even if it allows them to tell their wives, 'it was not my fault'.
 
QP! said:
Yup and Don Jr is spinning the same line. He just followed what Allen Weisselberg and the accountants said and did and he did not know anything himself.

As the executive (Don and ERic) signing off on the documents you are attesting you have reviewed, understand them and verify them.

So this 'throw Alan under the bus' does nothing to save them or the company from guilt, even if it allows them to tell their wives, 'it was not my fault'.
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As Bart Simpson famously said, "I didn't do it."
 
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