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The DOJ is investigating Donald Trump in connection with his efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

By Alberto Gonzalez

"The Jan. 6 congressional hearings credibly present a damning narrative that then-President Donald Trump was the driving force behind a massive conspiracy to obstruct justice, interfere with the official Jan. 6 congressional proceedings and defraud the citizens of the United States of a fair election outcome.

While there appears to be little in the hearings that would undercut a successful criminal prosecution of the former president, neither do the hearings guarantee a successful prosecution.

Some have criticized the pace of the Department of Justice’s investigation, while others insist the public record already clearly supports an indictment and likely conviction of the former president. As to timing, it appears the investigation is proceeding in a deliberate fashion, careful and methodical. Out of fairness to prospective targets, the work of any federal investigation is confidential. Grand jury proceedings require confidentiality. The investigation will take as long as it takes. The attorney general will make a charging decision, whether it takes six weeks or six months, only after collecting and analyzing all the evidence, including the work of the Jan. 6 committee.

A primary reason to punish criminal acts is to discourage future behavior. Here the nature of possible offenses is serious and requires accountability. This is especially relevant here given growing signs that former President Trump again intends to run for office. Even if a future prosecution is unsuccessful, the investigation and trial would nevertheless likely provide a strong future deterrent.

There are other serious issues confronting our country today, from abortion and gun rights to the growing threat from China and the war in Ukraine. Our government leaders must focus on these internal and external challenges. A trial of former President Trump will dominate the news and captivate the attention of the public and likely our government leaders for months. President Gerald Ford pardoned former President Richard Nixon for acts relating to the Watergate break-in, in part because Ford believed it was time for the nation to move on and heal. He thought it best to exercise the power of the sovereign to forgive transgressions by Nixon. President Biden has the power to do the same if he chooses, but granting a pardon is neither within the power of the attorney general nor within his discretion. The job of the attorney general is to prosecute wrongdoing no matter how popular or unpopular.

Merrick Garland enjoys a reputation of integrity and courage. I expect he will be fair in his charging decision with respect to former President Trump as he would with any other potential defendant. However, I suspect that here he will proceed with extra caution. If the government prosecutes a former president, the government should be especially confident of success.

Attorney General Garland will make his charging decision at a time of his choosing. He will not make this decision in a vacuum, nor rely solely on his own experiences. He will consult and listen to the views and recommendations of his senior team. He will weigh all of the evidence gathered by both the Jan. 6 committee and investigators at the Justice Department.

Whatever the decision, at some point Garland should explain how his decision advances the rule of law, and defend it to the American people, Congress and Justice Department personnel. He will have to explain his decision for history.

Alberto Gonzales was the 80th Attorney General of the United States and counsel to the president in the George W. Bush administration. He is now the Dean and Doyle Rogers Distinguished Professor of Law at Belmont University College of Law.

What to expect from the DOJ’s investigation of Donald Trump
 
The DOJ is investigating Donald Trump in connection with his efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

By Alberto Gonzalez

"The Jan. 6 congressional hearings credibly present a damning narrative that then-President Donald Trump was the driving force behind a massive conspiracy to obstruct justice, interfere with the official Jan. 6 congressional proceedings and defraud the citizens of the United States of a fair election outcome.

While there appears to be little in the hearings that would undercut a successful criminal prosecution of the former president, neither do the hearings guarantee a successful prosecution.

Some have criticized the pace of the Department of Justice’s investigation, while others insist the public record already clearly supports an indictment and likely conviction of the former president. As to timing, it appears the investigation is proceeding in a deliberate fashion, careful and methodical. Out of fairness to prospective targets, the work of any federal investigation is confidential. Grand jury proceedings require confidentiality. The investigation will take as long as it takes. The attorney general will make a charging decision, whether it takes six weeks or six months, only after collecting and analyzing all the evidence, including the work of the Jan. 6 committee.

A primary reason to punish criminal acts is to discourage future behavior. Here the nature of possible offenses is serious and requires accountability. This is especially relevant here given growing signs that former President Trump again intends to run for office. Even if a future prosecution is unsuccessful, the investigation and trial would nevertheless likely provide a strong future deterrent.

There are other serious issues confronting our country today, from abortion and gun rights to the growing threat from China and the war in Ukraine. Our government leaders must focus on these internal and external challenges. A trial of former President Trump will dominate the news and captivate the attention of the public and likely our government leaders for months. President Gerald Ford pardoned former President Richard Nixon for acts relating to the Watergate break-in, in part because Ford believed it was time for the nation to move on and heal. He thought it best to exercise the power of the sovereign to forgive transgressions by Nixon. President Biden has the power to do the same if he chooses, but granting a pardon is neither within the power of the attorney general nor within his discretion. The job of the attorney general is to prosecute wrongdoing no matter how popular or unpopular.

Merrick Garland enjoys a reputation of integrity and courage. I expect he will be fair in his charging decision with respect to former President Trump as he would with any other potential defendant. However, I suspect that here he will proceed with extra caution. If the government prosecutes a former president, the government should be especially confident of success.

Attorney General Garland will make his charging decision at a time of his choosing. He will not make this decision in a vacuum, nor rely solely on his own experiences. He will consult and listen to the views and recommendations of his senior team. He will weigh all of the evidence gathered by both the Jan. 6 committee and investigators at the Justice Department.

Whatever the decision, at some point Garland should explain how his decision advances the rule of law, and defend it to the American people, Congress and Justice Department personnel. He will have to explain his decision for history.

Alberto Gonzales was the 80th Attorney General of the United States and counsel to the president in the George W. Bush administration. He is now the Dean and Doyle Rogers Distinguished Professor of Law at Belmont University College of Law.

What to expect from the DOJ’s investigation of Donald Trump

Finally.
 
Hello Cypress,

I would be surprised if he is indicted and convicted.

The political system went to extraordinary efforts to protect Nixon and Reagan from prison.

It does seem unlikely, but Trump was never constrained by traditional guide rails. He is unusual.

Even if he is convicted, he could be pardoned. Although I doubt a Democrat president would do that.

Ford guaranteed himself a single term by pardoning Nixon.
 
You use crude insults, because, you've got nothing worthwhile to offer.
You're just tired of hearing the truth. Perhaps you should embrace the truth and not fight it. I promise that you will feel better about yourself, and life in general, if you do.
 
social justice isn't real, dipshit. There's only Justice. ;)

Where does 'social justice' come into it? Either what Trump did after losing the 2020 election can be proved to be criminal, or it can't.

If it can't, anyone else could do the same, although no one has in the past. That doesn't bode well for the future of America.

Trump doesn't give a damn, of course, as long as he isn't held to account.
 
Where does 'social justice' come into it? Either what Trump did after losing the 2020 election can be proved to be criminal, or it can't.

If it can't, anyone else could do the same, although no one has in the past. That doesn't bode well for the future of America.

Trump doesn't give a damn, of course, as long as he isn't held to account.
In your eyes, the fuel behind Trump's alleged attack on Jan 6 is racism and bigotry. Your idea of racists and bigots run counter to your bullshit "Social Justice".

"Social Justice" is the very core of it.
 
The DOJ is investigating Donald Trump in connection with his efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

By Alberto Gonzalez

"The Jan. 6 congressional hearings credibly present a damning narrative that then-President Donald Trump was the driving force behind a massive conspiracy to obstruct justice, interfere with the official Jan. 6 congressional proceedings and defraud the citizens of the United States of a fair election outcome.

While there appears to be little in the hearings that would undercut a successful criminal prosecution of the former president, neither do the hearings guarantee a successful prosecution.

Some have criticized the pace of the Department of Justice’s investigation, while others insist the public record already clearly supports an indictment and likely conviction of the former president. As to timing, it appears the investigation is proceeding in a deliberate fashion, careful and methodical. Out of fairness to prospective targets, the work of any federal investigation is confidential. Grand jury proceedings require confidentiality. The investigation will take as long as it takes. The attorney general will make a charging decision, whether it takes six weeks or six months, only after collecting and analyzing all the evidence, including the work of the Jan. 6 committee.

A primary reason to punish criminal acts is to discourage future behavior. Here the nature of possible offenses is serious and requires accountability. This is especially relevant here given growing signs that former President Trump again intends to run for office. Even if a future prosecution is unsuccessful, the investigation and trial would nevertheless likely provide a strong future deterrent.

There are other serious issues confronting our country today, from abortion and gun rights to the growing threat from China and the war in Ukraine. Our government leaders must focus on these internal and external challenges. A trial of former President Trump will dominate the news and captivate the attention of the public and likely our government leaders for months. President Gerald Ford pardoned former President Richard Nixon for acts relating to the Watergate break-in, in part because Ford believed it was time for the nation to move on and heal. He thought it best to exercise the power of the sovereign to forgive transgressions by Nixon. President Biden has the power to do the same if he chooses, but granting a pardon is neither within the power of the attorney general nor within his discretion. The job of the attorney general is to prosecute wrongdoing no matter how popular or unpopular.

Merrick Garland enjoys a reputation of integrity and courage. I expect he will be fair in his charging decision with respect to former President Trump as he would with any other potential defendant. However, I suspect that here he will proceed with extra caution. If the government prosecutes a former president, the government should be especially confident of success.

Attorney General Garland will make his charging decision at a time of his choosing. He will not make this decision in a vacuum, nor rely solely on his own experiences. He will consult and listen to the views and recommendations of his senior team. He will weigh all of the evidence gathered by both the Jan. 6 committee and investigators at the Justice Department.

Whatever the decision, at some point Garland should explain how his decision advances the rule of law, and defend it to the American people, Congress and Justice Department personnel. He will have to explain his decision for history.

Alberto Gonzales was the 80th Attorney General of the United States and counsel to the president in the George W. Bush administration. He is now the Dean and Doyle Rogers Distinguished Professor of Law at Belmont University College of Law.

What to expect from the DOJ’s investigation of Donald Trump

you want fries with that nothingburger?


:magagrin:
 
Hello Tranquillus in Exile,

Where does 'social justice' come into it? Either what Trump did after losing the 2020 election can be proved to be criminal, or it can't.

If it can't, anyone else could do the same, although no one has in the past. That doesn't bode well for the future of America.

Trump doesn't give a damn, of course, as long as he isn't held to account.

It's pretty clear that Trump tried in many ways to overturn the 2020 election, culminating in inciting an insurrection.

Whether the DOJ can prove that to 12 jurors is another question.

The defense in a criminal trial (Oh please let it be Rudy - oh wait, he got disbarred) can challenge all the evidence, and the onus of proof is on the prosecution.

But still - isn't it clear enough what Trump did?
 
The DOJ is investigating Donald Trump in connection with his efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

By Alberto Gonzalez

"The Jan. 6 congressional hearings credibly present a damning narrative that then-President Donald Trump was the driving force behind a massive conspiracy to obstruct justice, interfere with the official Jan. 6 congressional proceedings and defraud the citizens of the United States of a fair election outcome.

While there appears to be little in the hearings that would undercut a successful criminal prosecution of the former president, neither do the hearings guarantee a successful prosecution.

Some have criticized the pace of the Department of Justice’s investigation, while others insist the public record already clearly supports an indictment and likely conviction of the former president. As to timing, it appears the investigation is proceeding in a deliberate fashion, careful and methodical. Out of fairness to prospective targets, the work of any federal investigation is confidential. Grand jury proceedings require confidentiality. The investigation will take as long as it takes. The attorney general will make a charging decision, whether it takes six weeks or six months, only after collecting and analyzing all the evidence, including the work of the Jan. 6 committee.

A primary reason to punish criminal acts is to discourage future behavior. Here the nature of possible offenses is serious and requires accountability. This is especially relevant here given growing signs that former President Trump again intends to run for office. Even if a future prosecution is unsuccessful, the investigation and trial would nevertheless likely provide a strong future deterrent.

There are other serious issues confronting our country today, from abortion and gun rights to the growing threat from China and the war in Ukraine. Our government leaders must focus on these internal and external challenges. A trial of former President Trump will dominate the news and captivate the attention of the public and likely our government leaders for months. President Gerald Ford pardoned former President Richard Nixon for acts relating to the Watergate break-in, in part because Ford believed it was time for the nation to move on and heal. He thought it best to exercise the power of the sovereign to forgive transgressions by Nixon. President Biden has the power to do the same if he chooses, but granting a pardon is neither within the power of the attorney general nor within his discretion. The job of the attorney general is to prosecute wrongdoing no matter how popular or unpopular.

Merrick Garland enjoys a reputation of integrity and courage. I expect he will be fair in his charging decision with respect to former President Trump as he would with any other potential defendant. However, I suspect that here he will proceed with extra caution. If the government prosecutes a former president, the government should be especially confident of success.

Attorney General Garland will make his charging decision at a time of his choosing. He will not make this decision in a vacuum, nor rely solely on his own experiences. He will consult and listen to the views and recommendations of his senior team. He will weigh all of the evidence gathered by both the Jan. 6 committee and investigators at the Justice Department.

Whatever the decision, at some point Garland should explain how his decision advances the rule of law, and defend it to the American people, Congress and Justice Department personnel. He will have to explain his decision for history.

Alberto Gonzales was the 80th Attorney General of the United States and counsel to the president in the George W. Bush administration. He is now the Dean and Doyle Rogers Distinguished Professor of Law at Belmont University College of Law.

What to expect from the DOJ’s investigation of Donald Trump



That prosecution advances the rule of law will be easy to explain and defend. The rule of law is defended by observing it rather than ignoring criminal activity because prosecution would be difficult or uncomfortable. If not defended in those circumstances the rule of law is weakened and becomes easier to ignore the next time. So it would be Garland's and the DOJ's sworn duty to prosecute.
 
Hello Martin,

That prosecution advances the rule of law will be easy to explain and defend. The rule of law is defended by observing it rather than ignoring criminal activity because prosecution would be difficult or uncomfortable. If not defended in those circumstances the rule of law is weakened and becomes easier to ignore the next time. So it would be Garland's and the DOJ's sworn duty to prosecute.

They must think of more than the current situation. Precedents will be set. The future if the nation is a stake. They have a sworn duty to protect and defend the Constitution.

Donald Trump has tested the oversight of the president. He is a crooked man. He has sought to try to get away with whatever he possibly could. Many times he ordered people to do things that they flat refused to do because it would be illegal or against their sworn duty to protect the Constitution. Trump was not constrained by the law. The law meant no more to Trump than a nuisance which sometimes got in his way.

Let us hope for the good of America that the law catches up with Donald Trump, for then it will take on new meaning and respect.

Trump in prison = building confidence in the law, in the Constitution, in our institutions, and in America!

Badly needed about now.
 
Hello Martin,



They must think of more than the current situation. Precedents will be set. The future if the nation is a stake. They have a sworn duty to protect and defend the Constitution.

Donald Trump has tested the oversight of the president. He is a crooked man. He has sought to try to get away with whatever he possibly could. Many times he ordered people to do things that they flat refused to do because it would be illegal or against their sworn duty to protect the Constitution. Trump was not constrained by the law. The law meant no more to Trump than a nuisance which sometimes got in his way.

Let us hope for the good of America that the law catches up with Donald Trump, for then it will take on new meaning and respect.

Trump in prison = building confidence in the law, in the Constitution, in our institutions, and in America!

Badly needed about now.

The hard truth is they need to look at the case with blinders on as to "other situations". It must judged on its own terms. If they do, other situations are more likely to take care of themselves in ways that they should.
 
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