Does Trump know anything about the wiretap...

Outside of what he probably heard from Levin & read on Breitbart?

If so, why is he showing such restraint now, after a pretty clearly emotional twitter outburst?

Stand up & be counted.
 
Why is the media barely touching the story with a ten foot pole? It's like they want to bury it as much as possible. They haven't really focused too much on it. We know the FISA requests happened.

Maybe he is showing restraint because there will be a congressional hearing in a couple of weeks?
 
Why is the media barely touching the story with a ten foot pole? It's like they want to bury it as much as possible. They haven't really focused too much on it. We know the FISA requests happened.

Maybe he is showing restraint because there will be a congressional hearing in a couple of weeks?

Based on everything you know about Trump - and you've had awhile to observe him - do you think that's really the case?
 
And I have no idea what you're talking about w/ the media. The wiretap story is huge, and everywhere. It's all they talked about on cable last night.
 
He realized that if there was no wiretap he looks to be a delusional paranoid, (insane) who believes every conspiracy theory that pollutes the inter-webs...

And if the FISA court DID grant a wiretap there is enough evidence that he colluded with the Russians to hack the election in his favor to indict him...
The stupid fuck has self-inflicted another wound that has no possible good outcome for him...
Look forward to more of these...
He is insane...
 
He realized that if there was no wiretap he looks to be a delusional paranoid, (insane) who believes every conspiracy theory that pollutes the inter-webs...

And if the FISA court DID grant a wiretap there is enough evidence that he colluded with the Russians to hack the election in his favor to indict him...
The stupid fuck has self-inflicted another wound that has no possible good outcome for him...
Look forward to more of these...
He is insane...

lol​ FISA literally never denies anything. I think out of like 30000 cases they turned away 12.
 
ive​ only seen small snippets on cnn and fox

The media has been all over it while I've been watching. I mean, this is a pretty big one. If it turns out that Trump 100% accused Obama of a felony based on Mark Levin...oh, man.

I know, I know - I predict everything is huge. But I would hope you'd have some pause about Trump if it turns out that was all he was going on. And we'll find out soon enough on that.
 
Thing, you have said you don't know if it is true, so what do you think Trump knows?

I don't think Trump knows anything we don't know. If he did, he'd say something.

It's not like this is a first for him. We know his m.o., and we know it extremely well. I vote him "most likely to take to twitter after having an emotional reaction to something he hears and sees." He tweets before he thinks, and this time, it's a bigger deal than I think he bargained for.
 
Why is the media barely touching the story with a ten foot pole? It's like they want to bury it as much as possible. They haven't really focused too much on it. We know the FISA requests happened.

Maybe he is showing restraint because there will be a congressional hearing in a couple of weeks?


Yeah, they have. The weekend shows discussed it at length. There is just nothing to report.

We don't know the Fisa requests happened. It's still just an unconfirmed report from the bbc.
 
I don't think Trump knows anything we don't know. If he did, he'd say something.

It's not like this is a first for him. We know his m.o., and we know it extremely well. I vote him "most likely to take to twitter after having an emotional reaction to something he hears and sees." He tweets before he thinks, and this time, it's a bigger deal than I think he bargained for.

At this point, I don't think he knows anymore than what he gleaned from that talk show guy and brietbart, if he did, he would release something. The timing of it was too coincidental. Their thing comes out and a few hours later at 1am or so, he makes his tweet. I find it hard to believe he got IC intel on it. But maybe and a big maybe, those two actually have good intel, afterall, the media has been known to blow thing wide open. And iirc, Obama said a couple of times he didn't know until a CNN or such came out with it.
 
I believe that Trump is correct, that there was a wiretap and surveillance of his campaign offices in Trump Tower...
Where he is wrong is that he believes Obama personally ordered it...
Trump operates under the delusion that the President is the king of the USA... and that anything that happened under the Obama administration was personally done by Barack...

I believe the surveillance was requested and granted to either the FBI the department of Homeland security or some other intelligence office.
They are sitting on the hard evidence that Trumps entire team were colluding with the Russians extensively throughout the last months of the campaign.
They are sitting tight and waiting for a special prosecutor to turn this all over to.
Right now there is no one in authority, who has any credibility to act on it, to give this incriminating evidence to ...
Saturday morning Trump found out that he is fucked and he lashed out in the only way he knows how...
Personally...
LMFAO
 
And I have no idea what you're talking about w/ the media. The wiretap story is huge, and everywhere. It's all they talked about on cable last night.
well there you go...it's not like the media to blowup a Tweet into a never ending story,,no..of course not :rolleyes:

Have they talked about why Trump is being damaged by the Deep State?? of course not.
 
well there you go...it's not like the media to blowup a Tweet into a never ending story,,no..of course not :rolleyes:

Have they talked about why Trump is being damaged by the Deep State?? of course not.

I can only shake my head at the bolded. Anatta - how can you marginalize it like that?

He accused his predecessor of a felony, with 100% conviction.
 
I can only shake my head at the bolded. Anatta - how can you marginalize it like that?

He accused his predecessor of a felony, with 100% conviction.
because it's a tweet, and because it MISSES the MUCH BIGGER story that Obama changed the way low level classified info is now distributed among the intelligence agencies,instead of just the NSA.
The NYTimes covered it with "Obama seeks to preserve intel on Russian hacking" ( or some such-
but when you read it ,it shows low level info,is now disseminated to GENERATE REPORTS.

Those REPORTS are now being systematically leaked by IC to do a steady drip..drip..drip.. of unconfirmed
"reports" to their cronies in the MS news.

So why is this not being covered?
Because it's not in the MS new's interests, while on the other hand damaging Trump is their business

Obama Administration Rushed to Preserve Intelligence of Russian Election Hacking

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/01/us/politics/obama-trump-russia-election-hacking.html?_r=0
In the Obama administration’s last days, some White House officials scrambled to spread information about Russian efforts to undermine the presidential election — and about possible contacts between associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump and Russians — across the government. Former American officials say they had two aims: to ensure that such meddling isn’t duplicated in future American or European elections, and to leave a clear trail of intelligence for government investigators.
 
because it's a tweet,

It's the President of the United States, speaking publicly.

Enough of this 'words don't matter' and 'don't take Trump literally' BS. You guys are lowering the bar on POTUS to a point from which it will not recover.

Again: our President accused his predecessor of a felony. Probably because he saw a right-wing nutter say it on TV.

Enough.
 
It's the President of the United States, speaking publicly.

Enough of this 'words don't matter' and 'don't take Trump literally' BS. You guys are lowering the bar on POTUS to a point from which it will not recover.

now you are getting it.

The reality shift is in full gear.

It wont be stopped :)
 
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