Dispelling the deranged and despicable lies about Kirk regarding his comments about the second amendment

[Truth Detector]

The left is working overtime in their deranged efforts to justify the murder of Charlie Kirk. A father, a husband and lover of this nation and its constitution.

These claims are taken completely out of context in a dishonest attempt to portray Kirk as if he were like themselves. Here is the actual discussion.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzr5cDKza0

 

[gmark77]

Charlie was 100% correct. In a nation that has decided that the Second Amendment is the facilitator and ensurer of all other amendments, then, of course we are never going to get the gun murder rate to zero.

In Charlie's calculus the 2A is critical to the defense of the other amendments. Apparently so much so that we must all learn to accept the occasional bad outcome.

Personally I disagree. I don't think this is the deal we need to accept. Nor do I agree with Charlie that his children will just have to be OK with this deal either.

What other context than the clear meaning of his words is there?

 

[Truth Detector]

Charlie was 100% correct. In a nation that has decided that the Second Amendment is the facilitator and ensurer of all other amendments, then, of course we are never going to get the gun murder rate to zero.

In Charlie's calculus the 2A is critical to the defense of the other amendments. Apparently so much so that we must all learn to accept the occasional bad outcome.

Personally I disagree. I don't think this is the deal we need to accept. Nor do I agree with Charlie that his children will just have to be OK with this deal either.

What other context than the clear meaning of his words is there?

Good question for the brainless leftists taking his comments out of context.

 

[gmark77]

Good question for the brainless leftists taking his comments out of context.

Explain the context. Do you agree with Charlie?

 

[Truth Detector]

Explain the context. Do you agree with Charlie?

Absolutely. You might want to watch the clip and get back to me when you are better informed and less stupid and ignorant.

 

[gmark77]

Absolutely. You might want to watch the clip and get back to me when you are better informed and less stupid and ignorant.

I characterized Charlies position correctly. He recognized that in the US due to the 2A we cannot eliminate down to zero the number of gun deaths and homicides. It was a fair deal in his estimation.

He said what he said. If you disagree with him perhaps you should prove his position wrong. Do YOU think we can ever get gun violence down to zero with our current reading of the 2A? How?

 

[Truth Detector]

I characterized Charlies position correctly. He recognized that in the US due to the 2A we cannot eliminate down to zero the number of gun deaths and homicides. It was a fair deal in his estimation.

Then what is your issue?

He said what he said. If you disagree with him perhaps you should prove his position wrong. Do YOU think we can ever get gun violence down to zero with our current reading of the 2A? How?

I think you are very confused. I am not disagreeing with Kirk. Good lord dude, take a reading comprehension class or something.

 

[Truth Detector]

Apparently so much so that we must all learn to accept the occasional bad outcome.

Personally I disagree. I don't think this is the deal we need to accept. Nor do I agree with Charlie that his children will just have to be OK with this deal either.

What other context than the clear meaning of his words is there?

That statement was based on the FACT that if the goal is to have ZERO deaths by eliminating the second amendment, you're unserious and merely want to eliminate the second amendment.

You might need a slightly higher IQ to comprehend the subtle truth in that. We have freedoms. If we want to keep them, then we have to accept that there will be criminal behavior and speech we may not like, but our freedoms and liberty are far too important than to get caught up in a leftist lie that we can remove ALL threats to these liberties by eliminating the first and second amendments.

Charlie was murdered for his civil style of debate. It was a risk he willingly took to educate leftist dumbfucks.

 

[Crepitus]

The left is working overtime in their deranged efforts to justify the murder of Charlie Kirk. A father, a husband and lover of this nation and its constitution.

These claims are taken completely out of context in a dishonest attempt to portray Kirk as if he were like themselves. Here is the actual discussion.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzr5cDKza0

Like I said, Karma. "gun deaths are worth it" he said.

YOu and he were both perfectly willing to sacrifice others on that altar.

Now it happened and you are all coming completely unglued over it.

YOu should be glad, he died for what he believed in.

Admittedly he (and you) expected it to be someone else dying for what he believed in but that's what Karma is all about, amiright?

 

[Truth Detector]

Like I said, Karma. "gun deaths are worth it" he said.

There you go with the brainless unhinged stupid lies. I don't think you can post without lying and looking like an unhinged moron.

YOu and he were both perfectly willing to sacrifice others on that altar.

Another laughably and remarkably unhinged and moronic statement.

Now it happened and you are all coming completely unglued over it.

Wrong again you brainless halfwit; the left is flailing and trying to justify that murder. If you had a brain, which you obviously do not, you could comprehend the OBVIOUS.

YOu should be glad, he died for what he believed in.

I would be happier if you shot yourself. One less brainless unhinged, lying leftist lunatic in the world would be a good thing.

Admittedly he (and you) expected it to be someone else dying for what he believed in but that's what Karma is all about, amiright?

There you go with more unhinged lie filled strawmen. I don't think you can post without lying and looking like an unhinged moron.

 

[Crepitus]

There you go with the brainless unhinged stupid lies. I don't think you can post without lying and looking like an unhinged moron.



Another laughably and remarkably unhinged and moronic statement.



Wrong again you brainless halfwit; the left is flailing and trying to justify that murder. If you had a brain, which you obviously do not, you could comprehend the OBVIOUS.



I would be happier if you shot yourself. One less brainless unhinged, lying leftist lunatic in the world would be a good thing.



There you go with more unhinged lie filled strawmen. I don't think you can post without lying and looking like an unhinged moron.

Have you ever actually contributed to a discussion?

All you're doing is spewing profanity and "nuh uh".

You are a waste of bandwidth.

 

[gmark77]

Then what is your issue?

I have no issue. I disagree with Charlie. His death was not acceptable.

 

[Truth Detector]

Have you ever actually contributed to a discussion?

Asks the whiny, thread trolling douchebag adding nothing to this thread.

All you're doing is spewing profanity and "nuh uh".

You just described every leftist on this forum you whiny, lying leftist asshat.

When I call you a dumbass, that isn't an insult. It's an adjective.

You are a waste of bandwidth.

Projecting again. Not only are you a brainless dumbass, but you lack any self-awareness.

 

[Truth Detector]

I have no issue. I disagree with Charlie. His death was not acceptable.

And no one gives a shit if you disagree with being normal and loving America.

 

[AProudLefty]

And no one gives a shit if you disagree with being normal and loving America.

What is "being normal and loving America"?

 

[Truth Detector]

What is "being normal and loving America"?

I am not surprised you would have to ask that question.

 

[AProudLefty]

I am not surprised you would have to ask that question.

So you have no idea.

 

[Tobytone]

Charlie was 100% correct. In a nation that has decided that the Second Amendment is the facilitator and ensurer of all other amendments, then, of course we are never going to get the gun murder rate to zero.

In Charlie's calculus the 2A is critical to the defense of the other amendments. Apparently so much so that we must all learn to accept the occasional bad outcome.

Personally I disagree. I don't think this is the deal we need to accept. Nor do I agree with Charlie that his children will just have to be OK with this deal either.

What other context than the clear meaning of his words is there?

Well, you've been conditioned to think that the current murder rates will never change unless we abandon the 2nd Amendment, it's not surprising considering how much propaganda has been spread on the subject. What would the gun violence picture look if democrats actually accepted help and adopted policies that have completely reversed the gun violence picture in DC?

If we did the same in just four of the worst cities in the country, we'd go from the 4th highest murder rate in the world to the 4th from the bottom of the list. Allowing crime to steal law abiding citizen's liberty is a choice, period.

There's plenty of money and recourses to do what needs to be done if it becomes the priority it should be. Why do the democrats want so much crime? Maybe it's because they want us to get tired enough of the carnage to actually deliver them their crown jewel, abolishing the 2nd Amendment.

What's one thing that every tyrannical government since the beginning of the Marxist experiments had in common along with millions of deaths and untold suffering by the masses? They all took the guns away from the citizens first. Not one Socialist, Communist, Marxist, experiment allowed people to have guns, NOT ONE. I wonder why.

 

[Truth Detector]

So you have no idea.

Apparently, you don't, you brainless dumb fuck. You're the one asking.