Did the Democrats deliberately throw the election to Trump?

[Hume]

I say yes. Willing to debate it.

 

[ZenMode]

Absolutely-fucking-not

 

[Hume]

Absolutely-fucking-not

Well, they had Biden. Publicly humiliated him and used the worthless person Harris.

Now, the DNC is refusing to discuss why it lost.

 

[Hume]

Add to that the utter lack of courage of the Democratic Party to stand up to Trump's fascism.

 

[Crepitus]

I say yes. Willing to debate it.

no, they succumbed to pressure about Joe Biden.

 

[Crepitus]

Add to that the utter lack of courage of the Democratic Party to stand up to Trump's fascism.

That's why they are getting shitty rating right now.

 

[Hume]

no, they succumbed to pressure about Joe Biden.

They were the pressure.

 

[Hume]

That's why they are getting shitty rating right now.

My point. They never opposed Trump.
The oligarchy rules.

 

[Crepitus]

My point. They never opposed Trump.
The oligarchy rules.

That's why I'm pissed at them.

 

[Crepitus]

They were the pressure.

No, that started outside. Too many fell for it though.

 

[Hume]

No, that started outside. Too many fell for it though.

No, started from the inside. Well documented.

 

[ZenMode]

Well, they had Biden. Publicly humiliated him and used the worthless person Harris.

Now, the DNC is refusing to discuss why it lost.

The "why" was discussed, ad nauseum, by the right and left, immediately follow the election.

The left absolutely hates and, more importantly, fears Trump. They tried to drag Biden across the finish because he was a proven winner against Trump and because Biden apparently refused to step aside.

There's just no way Dems intentionally lost to Trump.

 

[Hume]

The "why" was discussed, ad nauseum, by the right and left, immediately follow the election.

No. DNC Chair said he will not let the discussion, in print, go public.

 

[Hume]

The left absolutely hates and, more importantly, fears Trump.

I am on the left and do not fear Trump.

 

[ZenMode]

Add to that the utter lack of courage of the Democratic Party to stand up to Trump's fascism.

Why would they? Trump is plummeting in the polling. It's going to be an absolute slaughter in mid-terms. All the momentum will likely be on the Dems side in 2028.

 

[Hume]

The "why" was discussed, ad nauseum, by the right and left, immediately follow the election.

The left absolutely hates and, more importantly, fears Trump. They tried to drag Biden across the finish because he was a proven winner against Trump and because Biden apparently refused to step aside.

There's just no way Dems intentionally lost to Trump.

Biden was right to not step aside. It was a 'coup' attempt by the DNC conservatives.

 

[Hume]

Why would they? Trump is plummeting in the polling. It's going to be an absolute slaughter in mid-terms. All the momentum will likely be on the Dems side in 2028.

Why I hate the Democrats--always about something in the future...which never happens.

 

[ZenMode]

No. DNC Chair said he will not let the discussion, in print, go public.

So? My guess is the things being said would alienate some portion of the Dem base. Probably lots of identity politics talk, lots of "maybe we should stop pushing for males in girl's sports' comments ... Stuff like that.

 

[ZenMode]

Biden was right to not step aside. It was a 'coup' attempt by the DNC conservatives.

Biden hadn't held a cabinet meeting since 2021. He had no business running again at his age and mental condition.

 

[Hume]

So? My guess is the things being said would alienate some portion of the Dem base. Probably lots of identity politics talk, lots of "maybe we should stop pushing for males in girl's sports' comments ... Stuff like that.

Every failed party wants to lie.