Defeated Zelenskies describe their retreat from Russia.

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Volodymyr: 'Drones around the clock'
On 9 March, "Volodymyr" sent a Telegram post to the BBC saying he was still in Sudzha, where there was "panic and collapse of the front".

Ukrainian troops "are trying to leave - columns of troops and equipment. Some of them are burned by Russian drones on the road. It is impossible to leave during the day."

Movement of men, logistics and equipment had been reliant on one major route between Sudzha and Ukraine's Sumy region.

Volodymyr said it was possible to travel on that road relatively safely a month ago. By 9 March it was "all under the fire control of the enemy - drones around the clock. In one minute you can see two to three drones. That's a lot," he said.

"We have all the logistics here on one Sudzha-Sumy highway. And everyone knew that the [Russians] would try to cut it. But this again came as a surprise to our command."

At the time of writing, just before Russia retook Sudzha, Volodymyr said Ukrainian forces were being pressed from three sides.


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Retreat from Kursk: Ukrainian troops tell of catastrophe and panic

Five soldiers tell the BBC of their withdrawal in the face of overwhelming firepower and drones.
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"Catastrophe and panic "

Zelensky has fired another military commander. It's time that sane Ukrainians arrested Zelensky.

'Last week, President Volodymyr Zelensky said he believed the Kursk operation had "accomplished its task" by forcing Russia to pull troops from the east and relieve pressure on Pokrovsk.'

Untrue. The Russians significantly ignored it. Zelensky is a comedian. Oh......................wait !
 
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moon said:
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Volodymyr: 'Drones around the clock'
On 9 March, "Volodymyr" sent a Telegram post to the BBC saying he was still in Sudzha, where there was "panic and collapse of the front".

Ukrainian troops "are trying to leave - columns of troops and equipment. Some of them are burned by Russian drones on the road. It is impossible to leave during the day."

Movement of men, logistics and equipment had been reliant on one major route between Sudzha and Ukraine's Sumy region.

Volodymyr said it was possible to travel on that road relatively safely a month ago. By 9 March it was "all under the fire control of the enemy - drones around the clock. In one minute you can see two to three drones. That's a lot," he said.

"We have all the logistics here on one Sudzha-Sumy highway. And everyone knew that the [Russians] would try to cut it. But this again came as a surprise to our command."

At the time of writing, just before Russia retook Sudzha, Volodymyr said Ukrainian forces were being pressed from three sides.


www.bbc.co.uk

Retreat from Kursk: Ukrainian troops tell of catastrophe and panic

Five soldiers tell the BBC of their withdrawal in the face of overwhelming firepower and drones.
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Looks like it's only going to get worse for many Ukrainian soldiers still trapped in Kursk:
www.rt.com

Kiev rejects Putin’s offer of mercy for troops in Kursk

Ukraine’s forces in Kursk Region will continue fighting, FM Andrey Sibiga has said, despite the troops being largely encircled
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Scott said:
Looks like it's only going to get worse for many Ukrainian soldiers still trapped in Kursk:
www.rt.com

Kiev rejects Putin’s offer of mercy for troops in Kursk

Ukraine’s forces in Kursk Region will continue fighting, FM Andrey Sibiga has said, despite the troops being largely encircled
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Yes- we should check out this forum and highlight those that thought Zelensky's venture into Kursk was a good idea.
They will be ardent NATO supporters, regardless of the cost in other people's lives, cities and livlihoods.
 
Scott said:
Looks like it's only going to get worse for many Ukrainian soldiers still trapped in Kursk:
www.rt.com

Kiev rejects Putin’s offer of mercy for troops in Kursk

Ukraine’s forces in Kursk Region will continue fighting, FM Andrey Sibiga has said, despite the troops being largely encircled
www.rt.com www.rt.com
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There are reports that there have been a lot of not Ukrainians in Kursk......the Russians have always been clear that they will never be part of a prisoner exchange, and will be treated harshly.....I the other day saw that one got a 17 year prison sentence....prob hard labor.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
There are reports that there have been a lot of not Ukrainians in Kursk......the Russians have always been clear that they will never be part of a prisoner exchange, and will be treated harshly.....I the other day saw that one got a 17 year prison sentence....prob hard labor.
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I imagine this has something to do with it:
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Kiev trying to hide war crimes in Kursk region – Moscow

Constant shelling has complicated a probe into alleged atrocities against civilians by Ukrainian forces, a Russian diplomat has said
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Western media ignores Kiev’s war crimes in Kursk Region – Moscow

Western outlets are silent on the alleged atrocities of Ukraine in Russia’s Kursk Region, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov has said
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New evidence of Ukrainian war crimes emerges – media

More civilian bodies have reportedly been discovered in a liberated village in Russia’s Kursk Region, pointing to foul play
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moon said:
Give unto Russia that which is Russia's.
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The sad thing is that had the west not played such a large role in Euromaidan, it's quite possible none of the ensuing conflict would have happened. But yeah, in regards to Kursk, Zelensky ordering the incursion there was a bad idea from the start.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Washington finally figured out April 2024 that they have lost this war....
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Some perhaps, but the western mainstream media has neglected to tell most of its audience. I suspect this war will be over before the year is out though, with Russia essentially getting what it's been demanding all this time.
 
Work ? It's common knowledge that use of the Bosphorus for traffic engaged in conflict is denied by the Turks.
Any map of Ukraine's coast identifies Odesa as the gateway to Ukraine.
 
Scott said:
Some perhaps, but the western mainstream media has neglected to tell most of its audience. I suspect this war will be over before the year is out though, with Russia essentially getting what it's been demanding all this time.
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What have they been demanding?
And when you say “all this time” what time frame are you referring to?
It seems that their demands have been fluid.
 
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