Comey Says Trump Told Him 'I Need Loyalty' at a Private Dinner

signalmankenneth

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So that's why Comey was fired, for not pledging loyalty to Trump?!!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...i-need-loyalty-at-a-private-dinner/ar-BBCfqBZ

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That was in January, doubtful the reason. And notice how Trump apparently couched the words, it was not a direct request at Thingy would have you believe.

That said, such words are improper IMO.
 
That was in January, doubtful the reason. And notice how Trump apparently couched the words, it was not a direct request at Thingy would have you believe.

That said, such words are improper IMO.

I've said a few times that I don't think it crosses over into obstruction of justice. I think Trump comes out of tomorrow with more hits to his reputation, but nothing incriminating enough to take action against him (like impeachment).

Still, incredibly inappropriate, and the kind of thing that Trump & his supporters decried Hillary for.
 
The Hate White Christians Party making mountains out of molehills ... again :palm:
 
I've said a few times that I don't think it crosses over into obstruction of justice. I think Trump comes out of tomorrow with more hits to his reputation, but nothing incriminating enough to take action against him (like impeachment).

Still, incredibly inappropriate, and the kind of thing that Trump & his supporters decried Hillary for.

You're right, nothing will amount to an impeachable offense, however, the director's loyalty is essentially to the Constitution, not to the President. Even though the President is his superior, his oath is to uphold the Constitution, not an oath of loyalty to the President.
 
The OP quote lacks context---it was probably lifted from one of the usual media suspects.

Quote in full context:

Comey said he responded, “You will always get honesty from me.”

Trump paused for a moment, he said, then continued, “That’s what I want, honest loyalty."

If this is indicative of tomorrow's Comey bombshells---it's going to be a dud.
 
The OP quote lacks context---it was probably lifted from one of the usual media suspects.

Quote in full context:

Comey said he responded, “You will always get honesty from me.”

Trump paused for a moment, he said, then continued, “That’s what I want, honest loyalty."

If this is indicative of tomorrow's Comey bombshells---it's going to be a dud.

No, the word loyalty is still there.

What makes you think the FBI director owes loyalty to the President? What does the oath say that Comey took when he became the Director?
 
While he was insisting on loyalty, Comey said that Trump asked him to let go of the investigation into Flynn's tied to Russia.

That's not a good thing.

nah, that's what some mindless lib'rul reporter claimed Comey said.....there's a difference.......
 
I've said a few times that I don't think it crosses over into obstruction of justice. I think Trump comes out of tomorrow with more hits to his reputation, but nothing incriminating enough to take action against him (like impeachment).

Still, incredibly inappropriate, and the kind of thing that Trump & his supporters decried Hillary for.


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The OP quote lacks context---it was probably lifted from one of the usual media suspects.

Quote in full context:

Comey said he responded, “You will always get honesty from me.”

Trump paused for a moment, he said, then continued, “That’s what I want, honest loyalty."

If this is indicative of tomorrow's Comey bombshells---it's going to be a dud.

Where did you get that?

According to Comey, he said "I need loyalty, I expect loyalty."

Fake news on your part?
 
Do you really think Trump would blurt out 'I expect loyalty' without any surrounding context lol?

In fuller context:

"The President began by asking me whether I wanted to stay on as FBI Director, which I found strange because he had already told me twice in earlier conversations that he hoped I would stay, and I had assured him that I intended to. He said that lots of people wanted my job and, given the abuse I had taken during the previous year, he would understand if I wanted to walk away.

My instincts told me that the one-on-one setting, and the pretense that this was our first discussion about my position, meant the dinner was, at least in part, an effort to have me ask for my job and create some sort of patronage relationship. That concerned me greatly, given the FBI's traditionally independent status in the executive branch. I replied that I loved my work and intended to stay and serve out my ten-year term as Director. And then, because the set-up made me uneasy, I added that I was not "reliable" in the way politicians use that word, but he could always count on me to tell him the truth. I added that I was not on anybody's side politically and could not be counted on in the traditional political sense, a stance I said was in his best interest as the President.

A few moments later, the President said, "I need loyalty, I expect loyalty." I didn't move, speak, or change my facial expression in any way during the awkward silence that followed. We simply looked at each other in silence. The conversation then moved on, but he returned to the subject near the end of our dinner. At one point, I explained why it was so important that the FBI and the Department of Justice be independent of the White House. I said it was a paradox: Throughout history, some Presidents have decided that because "problems" come from Justice, they should try to hold the Department close. But blurring those boundaries ultimately makes the problems worse by undermining public trust in the institutions and their work.

Near the end of our dinner, the President returned to the subject of my job, saying he was very glad I wanted to stay, adding that he had heard great things about me from Jim Mattis, Jeff Sessions, and many others. He then said, "I need loyalty." I replied, "You will always get honesty from me." He paused and then said, "That's what I want, honest loyalty." I paused, and then said, "You will get that from me." As I wrote in the memo I created immediately after the dinner, it is possible we understood the phrase "honest loyalty" differently, but I decided it wouldn't be productive to push it further. The term -- honest loyalty -- had helped end a very awkward conversation and my explanations had made clear what he should expect."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/07/politics/james-comey-memos-testimony/index.html
 
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