Colorado Addressing The States Time Bombs

Annie

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Pensions:

http://finance.yahoo.com/focus-reti...m-at-pension-costs?mod=fidelity-readytoretire

No surprise, IL is not doing it well:

...One striking exception is Colorado, which has imposed cuts on its current workers, not just future hires, and even on people who have already retired. The retirees have sued to block the reduction.

Other states with shrinking funds and deep fiscal distress may be pushed in this direction and tempted to follow Colorado's example in the coming years. Though most state officials believe they are legally bound to shield current workers from pension cuts, a Colorado victory could embolden them to be more aggressive.

Colorado pruned a 3.5 percent annual pension increase to 2 percent, concluding that was the fastest way to revive its pension fund, which was projected to run out of money by 2029. The cut may sound small, but it produces big results because it goes into effect immediately. State plans vary widely, but many have other costly features, like subsidized early-retirement benefits, which could likewise be trimmed for existing workers.

Despite its pension reform, Illinois is still in deep trouble. That vaunted $300 million in immediate savings? The state produced it by giving itself credit now for the much smaller checks it will send retirees many years in the future -- people who must first be hired and then, for full benefits, work until age 67.

By recognizing those far-off savings right away, Illinois is letting itself put less money into its pension fund now, starting with $300 million this year.

That saves the state money, but it also weakens the pension fund, actually a family of funds, raising the risk of a collapse long before the real savings start to materialize...
 
so your ok with cutting pensions people already earned? nice

This is why when I roll in a year or two I'm taking lump sum and not an annuity open to fucking politicians demanding cuts.
 
so your ok with cutting pensions people already earned? nice

This is why when I roll in a year or two I'm taking lump sum and not an annuity open to fucking politicians demanding cuts.

Ok with it? That part will be determined by the courts. However, if the state goes bankrupt, the discussion will hardly matter.
 
Ok with it? That part will be determined by the courts. However, if the state goes bankrupt, the discussion will hardly matter.

The same thing may happen in Cali, most people do not understand that pension earned is supposed to be as good as gold. Lump sum for me.
 
The same thing may happen in Cali, most people do not understand that pension earned is supposed to be as good as gold. Lump sum for me.

I understand being upset if you planned on those big pensions. On the other hand, seems some thinking about public costs should have been figured into those pensions, long before this economic downturn along with baby boomer retirements.

It's unsustainable.
 
so your ok with cutting pensions people already earned? nice

This is why when I roll in a year or two I'm taking lump sum and not an annuity open to fucking politicians demanding cuts.

If you are referring to CO, they did NOT cut the pensions.... they cut the ANNUAL increase from 3.5% to 2%.... so the pensions are actually going UP... just not up as fast as they were.
 
If you are referring to CO, they did NOT cut the pensions.... they cut the ANNUAL increase from 3.5% to 2%.... so the pensions are actually going UP... just not up as fast as they were.

didn't the article say they were cutting retirees, or is that cutting the increase?
 
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