College students need not apply

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Next fall, thousands of students on college campuses will attempt to register to vote and be turned away.

Sorry, they will hear, you have an out-of-state driver’s license.

Sorry, your college ID is not valid here.

Sorry, we found out that you paid out-of-state tuition, so even though you do have a state driver’s license, you still can’t vote.

Seven states have already passed strict laws requiring a government-issued ID (like a driver’s license or a passport) to vote, which many students don’t have, and 27 others are considering such measures.

Many of those laws have been interpreted as prohibiting out-of-state driver’s licenses from being used for voting.

It’s all part of a widespread Republican effort to restrict the voting rights of demographic groups that tend to vote Democratic.


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/27/opinion/keeping-college-students-from-the-polls.html?_r=1
 
Awww that's cute, don't let the little college students vote it their college adress. Because when they get home their values totally revert to those of their parents and they go back to being republicans.*

*Sarcasm
 
ummmm, absentee voting is not that difficult. In the Army I was actually able to do it ALL THE WAY from Germany.
 
The irony of course for college students being that they have no trouble getting their hands on false IDs but will not be able to handle actual ones.
 
Disillusioned said:
The irony of course for college students being that they have no trouble getting their hands on false IDs but will not be able to handle actual ones.
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Is that like the "poor" getting IDs to get "welfare" and "handouts"?
 
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Is that like the "poor" getting IDs to get "welfare" and "handouts"?
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No this is more like rich kids getting fake IDs at 17/18 so they can go out and get smashed, total their car into the poor kid on his bike and have daddies lawyer get them out of it.
I stand by college students seem to have no trouble getting their hands on ID's when they want something, I have personally seen this many a time. Although most of the time what they want is beer and cigarettes. Voting may be on the top ten list but it's down at number 10, right after getting somewhat decent grades.
 
I have 3 years at the University of Northern Colorado, which I currently attend, I could give you names and dates but really they would mean nothing to you. If you want police reports, go ask them. I only have personal eyewitness acounts.
 
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Next fall, thousands of students on college campuses will attempt to register to vote and be turned away.

Sorry, they will hear, you have an out-of-state driver’s license.

Sorry, your college ID is not valid here.

Sorry, we found out that you paid out-of-state tuition, so even though you do have a state driver’s license, you still can’t vote.

Seven states have already passed strict laws requiring a government-issued ID (like a driver’s license or a passport) to vote, which many students don’t have, and 27 others are considering such measures.

Many of those laws have been interpreted as prohibiting out-of-state driver’s licenses from being used for voting.

It’s all part of a widespread Republican effort to restrict the voting rights of demographic groups that tend to vote Democratic.


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/27/opinion/keeping-college-students-from-the-polls.html?_r=1
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those poor "smart" kids, how can they be expected to learn about absentee ballots?
 
Disillusioned said:
If you have an out of state drivers liscence why aren't you voting there?
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Plenty of people move to another state and don't jump to get another drivers license. Other states are required to accept your license by the full faith and credit clause. Citizenship in a state is determined merely by residence. States have to make judgements about how temporary your residence is going to be, and thusly restricting your ability to vote. And if we were to restrict temporary residents from voting, it should be applied universally, not selectively to college students. And this hits college students who came from out of state even if it's their desire to continue to live in the state.
 
You know, Generation X was notable for being the most Republican demographic when they were in college. An odd coincidence that, as soon as we get a left-wing generation coming of age, all of the sudden the youth are naive people who vote with their feelings instead of their head, and must be suppressed in order to not corrupt the beautiful ideological purity of the surrounding state and community. I suppose we will see a complete 180 in rhetoric once we get another heavily Republican generation, and it will suddenly be perfectly acceptable for them to vote and add their wise and youthful opinion to the mix.

Do not pretend that this is not motivated by a desire to reduce voter turnout amongst the young. Requiring people to go through look up and go through the complicated steps necessary to vote by absentee is obviously going to have a negative effect on turnout. If not, why wait to raise this issue now? You could've raised it at any time in the past 200 years of American history. You've never had a problem with residents of college campuses voting in the community in which they reside before, why is it all of a sudden such a big deal, right before an election in which (in a complete coincidence) you are wishing to defeat a presidential candidate whom you suspect they will support?

As for the bullshit logic that university students shouldn't be able to vote in the locality in which they reside, that's completely and totally ridiculous. If a significant portion of the residents in a town are college students who reside in the town for most of their time, and that half of the town can't vote, then how can this be said to be a democracy? It will simply lead to university interests being wholly ignored. Furthermore, how is it not more ridiculous to require these students to go and fill in a ballot and give opinions on candidates in a state and locality in which they do not reside, perhaps have no intention of ever residing in again? Worse, since they're not living in that state, they won't have any idea what is going on in the politics of that area, won't have heard any of the campaigns, won't know any of the issues and candidates, and are really not able to give an informed opinion on this area in which they used to reside. It's undemocratic to allow them to vote in such elections.
 
tinfoil said:
those poor "smart" kids, how can they be expected to learn about absentee ballots?
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All Republicans should be required to fill out absentee ballots no matter what. Only Democrats should be allowed at polling booths. If Republicans are too stupid to fill out an absentee ballot, that's their fault, right? No unfairness in this system.
 
If they are out-of-state students, they should not be voting in that state's elections. That is not republican paranoia, that is common sense.
 
WinterBorn said:
If they are out-of-state students, they should not be voting in that state's elections. That is not republican paranoia, that is common sense.
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Ehhhhhh, that depends, how much of the year are they at that school, if you spend 9 out of 12 months in a state I would define that as living there, get your liscence there and set up shop.
 
Disillusioned said:
Ehhhhhh, that depends, how much of the year are they at that school, if you spend 9 out of 12 months in a state I would define that as living there, get your liscence there and set up shop.
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When I was in the US Navy and stationed in VA and SC, I was still a resident of Alabama.

If the students make a given state their residence, and get off the out-of-state student rolls, they can vote in that state's elections. Otherwise they need to do an absentee ballot or make a trip home to vote.
 
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