Cohen’s pleas concocted by prosecutors to snare Trump

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I’m experiencing 1998 déjà vu as prosecutors once again work overtime to turn extramarital affairs and the efforts to keep them secret into impeachable high crimes and misdemeanors.
Unable to get the witnesses to compose the stories they want, today’s prosecutors are discovering they can simply compose the crimes by manipulating the pleas of men desperate to protect their families.

The Michael Cohen sentencing memo took aim directly at both Cohen and President Donald Trump.
It was used, unethically, to cast the president as directing a criminal conspiracy to make “secret and illegal” payments.
Sentencing memos are not supposed to use secret grand jury info to point fingers at those who are not being sentenced, but that’s exactly what these did.

One can say today that these New York prosecutors, acolytes of fired U.S. District Attorney Preet Bharra, have learned that the “plea’s the thing wherein to catch the king.”
First, they went after the man, not the crime, and turned up millions in unpaid taxes and some bank-loan misrepresentations by Cohen.
At that point, they convinced him to cave for the sake of his family; the trick was to get him to plead guilty to supposedly two campaign finance “felonies,” and then vaguely implicate the president as directing them (which Trump denies).

Despite promises to the contrary from prosecutors, they threw their star witness off the bus anyway, making him the biggest chump in this drama after he hired attorney Lanny Davis and burned all his bridges with his former client.
Once they had the guilty pleas in hand, the prosecutors no longer needed Cohen; they trashed him as a greedy liar and called for substantial jail time.

The reason these two guilty pleas were so valuable is that these prosecutors could not, in my opinion, have gotten them in court.
The first payment was not even made by Cohen but by American Media Inc., a bona fide media company with First Amendment protections; it could have decided to use the story that it bought, hold the story, or just prevent some competitor from using the story.

News outlets often hold stories on candidates they like and run stories instead against candidates they don’t like.
If such decisions are to be campaign contributions, then every arrangement with any witnesses against or for candidates would have to be scrutinized. Was NBC’s withholding of the Billy Bush tape on Trump a campaign contribution to him?
Was the illegal leak of that tape to another media organization a contribution to the Hillary Clinton campaign?
Is an offer of $10,000 to women to come forward with stories against Trump now a Clinton campaign contribution?
You can see why those in the media companies received immunity and were in no real danger, while the prosecutors used Cohen as their piñata once they had him on tax evasion.
The Stormy Daniels payment was made by Cohen, but so late that it never would have been reportable before the election anyway, a fact prosecutors omit.

The 2016 presidential campaign involved more than $2 billion of contributions, and the usual course is for the Federal Elections Commission (FEC) and its auditors to adjudicate issues like this administratively.
The last Obama campaign had millions of dollars of misreported information and paid a fine, as is typical.

Let’s also remember that the Steele dossier was at least partially paid for by a Democratic National Committee law firm that reportedly was used as a cut-out on the FEC forms.
And it is settled law that the ultimate recipient, not an intermediary, must be disclosed in such cases along with the proper use category.
Yet, this complaint has wended its way slowly through the FEC.
The law firm has not been raided by prosecutors, lawyer confidentiality has not been broken under the grounds that “oppo” research is not legal work. No one is pleading guilty to felonies.

What revelation would have had greater impact on transparency in the election — that Democrats had paid a British spy to gather dirt on Trump from Russia, or that Trump had a consensual one-night affair?

Perhaps the biggest difference between oppo research and paying for nondisclosure of an affair is that one is definitely a campaign expense and the other is a personal expense not covered by election law.
When prosecutors brought a similar case against former Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.), they failed to get a conviction and it came out that FEC auditors had determined that the payments from donors to his mistress were not a campaign expense at all.

Ironically, much of campaign expenditure law is about trying to prevent candidates from using campaign funds for their personal expenses and, generally, paying paramours to keep quiet would be considered a personal expense, not one that could be paid for with campaign contributions or federal matching dollars.
Under this new theory, would every payment to a mistress who was keeping quiet about an affair now be a reportable campaign contribution? Or payments to an out-of-wedlock child? Or a high school classmate who has an embarrassing story?

And what about the 268 settlements reached on behalf of congressmen and paid for by taxpayers? Are all confidential settlements done in election years now illegal campaign contributions, so that we need to lock up scores of congressmen on felony counts?
No doubt keeping them secret was critical to their elections — and those settlements, unlike Trump’s alleged behavior, sometimes included illegal elements.

The New York prosecutors also go on a laughable diatribe about the sanctity of election laws and transparency. Really? From folks who operate in secret by threatening people into what they want after they find a weakness?
I hardly think details of Donald Trump’s private parts is the kind of transparency that the late Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and former Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis.) were trying to accomplish with their 2002 election law reform.

I am hard-pressed to believe that the stories of brief encounters with these two women, neither of whom claim any harassment or abuse, would have had any effect on the election in the first place. They would have primarily hurt Trump’s wife and children, and it’s only because of the election and declining media standards that these women had increased marketability for their stories.
These are personal expenses that Trump, a frequent target of such schemes, would have likely made anyway.

Step by step, the special counsel and New York prosecutors are showing that they regard
Trump protégés as little more than pawns in an all-out effort to remove the president.

This is no honest inquiry respecting the will of the people.
Never before has an administration, a family and a campaign been treated in this fashion by prosecutors who have created far more crimes than they have found.

I, for one, don’t believe we can allow our democracy to operate this way, ever. Let the people decide their leaders through elections — and let’s get some adult supervision of these prosecutors, or it will be 1998 all over again.
https://itk.thehill.com/opinion/cri...pleas-concocted-by-prosecutors-to-snare-trump
Mark Penn served as pollster and adviser to President Clinton from 1995 to 2000, including during Clinton’s impeachment.
 
These are personal expenses that Trump, a frequent target of such schemes, would have likely made anyway.

Step by step, the special counsel and New York prosecutors are showing that they regard
Trump protégés as little more than pawns in an all-out effort to remove the president.

This is no honest inquiry respecting the will of the people.
Never before has an administration, a family and a campaign been treated in this fashion by prosecutors
who have created far more crimes than they have found.
 
I love how Trump hires only "the best people", yet all his people are so dumb they implicate themselves by lying.

No one is tricking them into lying. They're actively making the choice to lie.
 
These are personal expenses that Trump, a frequent target of such schemes, would have likely made anyway.

The point is that he did it in order to keep it from the American people, and he used campaign funds to do it.

SUPER illegal.
 
Step by step, the special counsel and New York prosecutors are showing that they regard
Trump protégés as little more than pawns in an all-out effort to remove the president.

Proteges?

Who is the protege?

What the fuck are you talking about?

Wow.

In about 2 years, anatta will be on these boards claiming to have never supported Trump, or will delete the anatta account and create a brand new one that is "True Conservative" or whatever the next re-brand is going to be.
 
This is no honest inquiry respecting the will of the people.

There is nothing honest about Trump.

This inquiry has been fully above-board.

It's the fact that you all can't keep track of the lies you tell, that makes you think this isn't honest.

You're just projecting your inherent dishonesty on everyone else. But that won't work. You get to own your dishonesty, and Trump's too because you blindly supported him.
 
I love how Trump hires only "the best people", yet all his people are so dumb they implicate themselves by lying.

No one is tricking them into lying. They're actively making the choice to lie.
the pleas to lying are manipulated so they carry the narrative the NY prosecutors want..
The entire pig circus is silly -except Democratic sharks like weisman and Mueller know how to construct pleas
so they add in language damning to POTUS

Paying off Stormy is a campaign violation? on what planet? It was clearly personal hush money
to spare his wife and kid. we all knew he was "grabbing 'em by the pussy"

But Cohen HAS to plead to the attached narrative to save his skin ( even though they threw him under the bus anyways) or the prosecutors would not accept the lying pleas
 
Proteges?

Who is the protege?

What the fuck are you talking about?

Wow.

In about 2 years, anatta will be on these boards claiming to have never supported Trump, or will delete the anatta account and create a brand new one that is "True Conservative" or whatever the next re-brand is going to be.
protege's is the term used for those the special counsel uses ..It would not be the term I use but it's semantics
 
Never before has an administration, a family and a campaign been treated in this fashion by prosecutors

Never before has a crime family lived in the Oval Office.


who have created far more crimes than they have found.

Created crimes?

That's some Harry Potter-level shit there.

Did they conjure the crimes up using a big pot like the witches at the beginning of Macbeth?

Fact is you've cast your lot in with Trump, and now you're desperately trying to find any way you can to avoid admitting that was the biggest error in personal judgment you've made in your life. And because that was such a big error, about what else has your judgment steered you wrong?

If you pull at the Trump thread, the entire anatta sweater unravels.

We start by asking, why did anatta believe Trump?
Then we ask, what is it about anatta's character that makes anatta so devoted to Trump?
Then we ask, since anatta's judgment was so terrible with Trump, what else is anatta wrong about?
Then we ask, since anatta was so wrong about Trump, why should anatta be allowed a seat at the table?
Then we ask, since anatta doesn't really deserve a seat at the table, why should anatta even be allowed to open anatta's mouth?
 
These are personal expenses that Trump, a frequent target of such schemes, would have likely made anyway.

Step by step, the special counsel and New York prosecutors are showing that they regard
Trump protégés as little more than pawns in an all-out effort to remove the president.

This is no honest inquiry respecting the will of the people.
Never before has an administration, a family and a campaign been treated in this fashion by prosecutors
who have created far more crimes than they have found.

"In legal filings released Friday, prosecutors said Cohen told them that when he made the payments to the women, "he acted in coordination with and at the direction of" Trump, whom they identified in the filings as “Individual 1.”

"Legal analysts said the allegations against Trump could amount to a felony if it's determined that there was a conspiracy to conceal payments from campaign contribution reports – and from the voters."

"Obama's violation "consisted of failing to submit certain forms in time, while the Trump allegations involve large payments through shell companies and his lawyer."

"The former is negligent, and the latter is knowing and willful. That is the difference – the mental state required."

"In August, Cohen pleaded guilty to campaign finance felonies and told a judge that Trump directed illegal payments "for the principal purpose of influencing the election” for president in 2016."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/10/donald-trump-payments/2262446002/

Perhaps "they would have likely made anyway" is true, but the secrecy and manner inwhich they were made is the difference

And forget the martyr appeal for Trump, his blunders is solely his own doings
 
the pleas to lying are manipulated so they carry the narrative the NY prosecutors want.

How could someone be manipulated into lying when it takes an active mind to lie?

Unless you're now saying they can't help it but to lie because lying is in their nature.

And if that's the case, why are you trusting Trump or any of his people?

You're just digging yourself in deeper while setting your own lifeboat on fire.
 
There is nothing honest about Trump.

This inquiry has been fully above-board.

It's the fact that you all can't keep track of the lies you tell, that makes you think this isn't honest.

You're just projecting your inherent dishonesty on everyone else. But that won't work. You get to own your dishonesty, and Trump's too because you blindly supported him.
the probe is a personal targeting of Trump thru his associates. If they can't get Trumo for collusion,they take a dirty deed ( or manufacture one) and find a conflict ( like Flynn) to gin it up to lying and attach their narrative like Yates did with Logan act violations
Which it wasn't and is not prosecutable anyways
 
The entire pig circus is silly -except Democratic sharks like weisman and Mueller know how to construct pleas

Mueller is a registered Republican.

And a highly effective attorney; that's how he got Gotti, Enron, and how he'll get Trump.

You're whining about how unfair it is that Trump and his people can't tell the truth.

No one is manipulated into lying; to lie takes an active mind that makes an active choice to not tell the truth.

Unless you're saying that Trump and his people are pathological liars. In which case, what does that say about your judgment that you'd defend them?
 
Paying off Stormy is a campaign violation? on what planet? It was clearly personal hush money

1. Why was he paying hush money?
2. Why would he want to keep that from the public?
3. Why did he use campaign funds to do it?
4. Why did he direct Cohen to specifically do that?


to spare his wife and kid. we all knew he was "grabbing 'em by the pussy"

To spare his wife and kid, what? What was paying Daniels off sparing them from?


But Cohen HAS to plead to the attached narrative to save his skin

He acted illegally at the direction of "Individual 1".

If Trump says he's lying, then why doesn't Trump testify under oath and set the whole record straight?

The answer is obviously because Trump is a pathological liar, and you know it.
 
"In legal filings released Friday, prosecutors said Cohen told them that when he made the payments to the women, "he acted in coordination with and at the direction of" Trump, whom they identified in the filings as “Individual 1.”

"Legal analysts said the allegations against Trump could amount to a felony if it's determined that there was a conspiracy to conceal payments from campaign contribution reports – and from the voters."

"Obama's violation "consisted of failing to submit certain forms in time, while the Trump allegations involve large payments through shell companies and his lawyer."

"The former is negligent, and the latter is knowing and willful. That is the difference – the mental state required."

"In August, Cohen pleaded guilty to campaign finance felonies and told a judge that Trump directed illegal payments "for the principal purpose of influencing the election” for president in 2016."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/10/donald-trump-payments/2262446002/

Perhaps "they would have likely made anyway" is true, but the secrecy and manner inwhich they were made is the difference

And forget the martyr appeal for Trump, his blunders is solely his own doings

The difference is that one is a proven campaign violation, the other is an allegation. Now they'll have to prove that it was a campaign expenditure and not private spending.
 
The difference is that one is a proven campaign violation, the other is an allegation. Now they'll have to prove that it was a campaign expenditure and not private spending.

As you well know modern day Democrats only need an allegation to prove someone guilty............
 
Never before has a crime family lived in the Oval Office.




Created crimes?

That's some Harry Potter-level shit there.

Did they conjure the crimes up using a big pot like the witches at the beginning of Macbeth?

Fact is you've cast your lot in with Trump, and now you're desperately trying to find any way you can to avoid admitting that was the biggest error in personal judgment you've made in your life. And because that was such a big error, about what else has your judgment steered you wrong?

If you pull at the Trump thread, the entire anatta sweater unravels.

We start by asking, why did anatta believe Trump?
Then we ask, what is it about anatta's character that makes anatta so devoted to Trump?
Then we ask, since anatta's judgment was so terrible with Trump, what else is anatta wrong about?
Then we ask, since anatta was so wrong about Trump, why should anatta be allowed a seat at the table?
Then we ask, since anatta doesn't really deserve a seat at the table, why should anatta even be allowed to open anatta's mouth?
personal attack on me is deflection and not germane. it's childish as well.

They conjure up lying by finding a discrepancy or even an actual attempt to lie.
But nobody cares if Cohen or Flynn lied. The only reason we care is the ATTACHED POLITICAL NARRATIVE
that they have to pleas to,or SC won't accept a plea.

In Cohen's case while cases like Edwards were found not guilty, or Obama were adjudicated with a fine-
they conjure up the fact was a campaign violation instead of a prima facie explanation that Trump/Cohen
wanted her to go away for personal reasons
 
the probe is a personal targeting of Trump thru his associates.

That's typically how criminal investigations work.


If they can't get Trumo for collusion

Based on all the Trump Tower Moscow news, it certainly seems like there'a enough to convict him on Conspiracy Against the United States.

A clear quid-pro-quo; Trump will run for President with Russia's support, then ease sanctions once in office. In exchange for that, Putin will give Trump his white whale; Trump Tower Moscow.


they take a dirty deed

Still illegal and impeachable. But in the end, it's not going to be the Stormy stuff that does Trump in; it's going to be Trump Tower Moscow.


and find a conflic

How was Flynn "a conflict"? Explain what you mean there.


to gin it up to lying and attach their narrative like Yates did with Logan act violations

So Trump lied and you don't think that's against the law?


Which it wasn't and is not prosecutable anyways

So I guess you just answered your own shitty point. So thanks for wasting everyone's time.
 
the pleas to lying are manipulated so they carry the narrative the NY prosecutors want..
The entire pig circus is silly -except Democratic sharks like weisman and Mueller know how to construct pleas
so they add in language damning to POTUS

Paying off Stormy is a campaign violation? on what planet? It was clearly personal hush money
to spare his wife and kid. we all knew he was "grabbing 'em by the pussy"

But Cohen HAS to plead to the attached narrative to save his skin ( even though they threw him under the bus anyways) or the prosecutors would not accept the lying pleas

About time for you to buy some new knee pads. Since when did Trump give a shit about his wife, and kid? If he did he would have kept his dick in his pants instead of in the mouth of the likes of you. Melania ain't no saint, and she is being well paid for staying with her whore, just as Ivana, and whats her name were, but your dickhead did marry her.
 
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