Citizens United Update

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I'm shocked:

Interest groups are spending five times as much on the 2010 congressional elections as they did on the last midterms, and they are more secretive than ever about where that money is coming from.

The $80 million spent so far by groups outside the Democratic and Republican parties dwarfs the $16 million spent at this point for the 2006 midterms. In that election, the vast majority of money - more than 90 percent - was disclosed along with donors' identities. This year, that figure has fallen to less than half of the total, according to data analyzed by The Washington Post.

The trends amount to a spending frenzy conducted largely in the shadows.

The bulk of the money is being spent by conservatives, who have swamped their Democratic-aligned competition by 7 to 1 in recent weeks. The wave of spending is made possible in part by a series of Supreme Court rulings unleashing the ability of corporations and interest groups to spend money on politics. Conservative operatives also say they are riding the support of donors upset with Democratic policies they perceive as anti-business.


At long last interest groups bankrolled by anonymous corporations can freely spend assloads of money on elections, just like the founders intended. Hooray!


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/03/AR2010100303664.html
 
Sooooo depressing.

All of those dystopian sci-fi flicks where the corps and gov't are one & the same (think: Rollerball)...they're all true!
 
The NEA and AFT are more than ready to help. After all, their vast campaign war chests (including $66 million during the 2007-2008 election cycle) and 4.6 million rank-and-file public school employees gives them the kind of electioneering heft that few of the other players within Democratic Party politics -- including school reformers -- can ever muster. The raises their members have received so far, along with the growth in the teaching ranks, have filled their coffers even more. In 2009, the two unions raised $15 million for the 2010 campaign cycle, according to the National Institute on Money in State Politics; this is more than double the amount raised a year before the 2008 elections.

NEA and AFT affiliates will play a particularly critical role in states such as Pennsylvania and Colorado, where Democrats are defending vulnerable seats held respectively by Arlen Specter and Michael Bennett. The two unions and their affiliates spent $9.3 million in those two states alone. Although Bennett has been a strong school reformer since his days running Denver's school district, a re-energized GOP, voter dissatisfaction with Obama's healthcare and economic policies, and the lack of a strong incumbent in the gubernatorial race mean that Bennett will take all the help he can get.

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/01/29/teachers-union-spending-spree
 
They do it too? Really?

Two wrongs don't make a right...no soup for you!

Never said it did Mr. Straw man maker.

Just providing balance to the obviously tainted article dung posted which attempted to pretend it was an overwhelming tilt in favor of Reps.
 
Just like the unions.... Hooray!

Dude, there's no reasonable argument that the Republicans and Democrats benefit equally from the Citizens United decision. I know you want to pretend otherwise, but lets get real. I also find it oh so convenient that out principled apolitical conservative strict constructionist/originalist justices just so happen to reach the result that dramatically increases Republican campaign expenditures.

The bottom line is that (1) money isn't speech and (2) legal fictions are not people.
 
Republicons don't want us to know that their money is coming from drug cartels, their communists partners in china or Saudi princes. Foreign groups now have a bigger say in our elections than Americans do. This is what globalization means.
 
Never said it did Mr. Straw man maker.

Just providing balance to the obviously tainted article dung posted which attempted to pretend it was an overwhelming tilt in favor of Reps.


So reality has a liberal bias. Interesting.

Apparently, a Washington Post article looking at total campaign expenditures in the current campaign cycle through September is "biased" whereas an American Spectator (hah!) article published nine months ago focusing exclusively on two unions and comparing their expenditures to their own expenditures in the 2008 cycles is "balanced."

Hilarious.
 

Exclusive: Foreign-Funded ‘U.S.’ Chamber Of Commerce Running Partisan Attack Ads
"The largest attack campaign against Democrats this fall is being waged by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a trade association organized as a 501(c)(6) that can raise and spend unlimited funds without ever disclosing any of its donors. The Chamber has promised to spend an unprecedented $75 million to defeat candidates like Jack Conway, Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA), Jerry Brown, Rep. Joe Sestak (D-PA), and Rep. Tom Perriello (D-VA). As of Sept. 15th, the Chamber had aired more than 8,000 ads on behalf of GOP Senate candidates alone, according to a study from the Wesleyan Media Project. The Chamber’s spending has dwarfed every other issue group and most political party candidate committee spending. A ThinkProgress investigation has found that the Chamber funds its political attack campaign out of its general account, which solicits foreign funding. And while the Chamber will likely assert it has internal controls, foreign money is fungible, permitting the Chamber to run its unprecedented attack campaign. According to legal experts consulted by ThinkProgress, the Chamber is likely skirting longstanding campaign finance law that bans the involvement of foreign corporations in American elections...

...In Russia, the relationship between the American Chamber of Commerce there and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce here is opaque. This might be because many of the dues-paying members of the American Chamber of Commerce in Russia are Russian state-run companies, like VTB Bank, and controlled by the Russian government. Asked by ThinkProgress if the Russian Chambers pay dues back to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Ksenia Forsheneva, the membership development manager at the American Chamber of Commerce in Russia, replied, “Unfortunately the information that you require is closed for the public...”
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/05/foreign-chamber-commerce/



Freak, I hope you are American enough to know this is a perversion of our political system and you are being played.
 
Dude, there's no reasonable argument that the Republicans and Democrats benefit equally from the Citizens United decision. I know you want to pretend otherwise, but lets get real. I also find it oh so convenient that out principled apolitical conservative strict constructionist/originalist justices just so happen to reach the result that dramatically increases Republican campaign expenditures.

The bottom line is that (1) money isn't speech and (2) legal fictions are not people.

I didn't see you complain when Soros funded the Obama's campaign.
 
So reality has a liberal bias. Interesting.

Apparently, a Washington Post article looking at total campaign expenditures in the current campaign cycle through September is "biased" whereas an American Spectator (hah!) article published nine months ago focusing exclusively on two unions and comparing their expenditures to their own expenditures in the 2008 cycles is "balanced."

Hilarious.

what is hilarious is your inability to comprehend what is written.

I did not say the Spectator article was balanced, I said it provided balance to your WP article that is also NOT balanced.

The bulk of the money is being spent by conservatives, who have swamped their Democratic-aligned competition by 7 to 1 in recent weeks. The wave of spending is made possible in part by a series of Supreme Court rulings unleashing the ability of corporations and interest groups to spend money on politics. Conservative operatives also say they are riding the support of donors upset with Democratic policies they perceive as anti-business.

"in recent weeks" is vague and doesn't address what has been spent in this cycle as a whole. It was stated to try and paint it as 'corporations are funding REPS oh my!'

One of the biggest spenders nationwide is a little-known Iowa group called the American Future Fund, which has spent $7 million on behalf of Republicans in more than two dozen House and Senate races. Donors for the group's ad campaign have not been disclosed in records the group has filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Again... trying to paint it as 'oh my, secretive groups are supporting Reps and the Rep groups are some of the largest spenders'

The ad, part of a nationwide campaign of similar mosque-themed spots, is the brainchild of Larry McCarthy, a media strategist who gained renown for creating the racially tinged "Willie Horton" commercials against Democratic presidential candidate Michael S. Dukakis in 1988.

Oh look, now they are trying to tie in the Willie Horton ads.

"We can't possibly match this spending dollar for dollar," Ruben said. "Turnout is big in a midterm, and the best way to affect turnout is person-to-person contact. These groups have a few millionaires, but they can't talk to that many people."

Oh look, now we try to paint it as 'its them rich folk supporting these Reps' proclaims Moveon.moron whose largest benefactor is no millionaire... just a measly little Billionaire.

Conservative groups such as Americans for Job Security and Crossroads GPS, an arm of the American Crossroads group, co-founded by former George W. Bush administration adviser Karl Rove, are organized as nonprofits and don't have to disclose who is giving them money. Some liberal groups, such as the League of Conservation Voters, an environmental group, are also nonprofits but raise money on a much smaller scale.

Ah, from Willie Horton to Karl Rove... da EVILZ Reps...

side note from the WP: 'liberals have groups doing the same thing says the WP, but raise money on a much smaller scale.... oh... and no... we are not going to show you the data that supports any of this.'

In earlier years, 60 Plus received significant grants from foundations connected to Pfizer and other major drugmakers, according to AARP. Kise declined to provide details about the group's donors but said it is not taking money from the pharmaceutical industry.

One final unbiased attempt to link the group to the pharmaceuticals by saying they received grants from FOUNDATIONS that are "connected" to the drugmakers. No mention at all as to HOW they are connected. Let me guess, an employee at a drug company knows someone who knows someone who heard from a friend that a distant cousin works at a foundation?

Yeah... your article is BIASED as hell... NO mention of the vast union spending solely for Dems. Who wants to bet Moveon.moron spends more than the $7mm the 'American Future Fund' spent?

oh... I guess we don't have to guess....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297133,00.html

In just the 2006 election cycle, MoveOn.org spent $27 million in advocacy to elect a Democratic majority in Congress and used its formidable fund-raising clout to propel numerous Democratic challengers to House and Senate victories.

and again from your article....

The Internet-based advocacy group MoveOn.org will spend roughly the same amount it did in the 2006 midterms, said Executive Director Justin Ruben, but will concentrate on organizing supporters instead of trying to compete on the airwaves.

"We can't possibly match this spending dollar for dollar," Ruben said.

yeah... they are going to have a hard time matching those groups...
 
This will be known as the election that wall street bought. The congress that results in 2010 cannot be considered the congress of the United States of America, it can only be considered a Wall Street advocacy group, run by the Party of God.
 
You're being quite the dumbass. Overall spending by outside groups is up across the board, but the vast majority of that spending is in support of Republicans. That's the truth of the matter.

For every moveon.org you can cite to as spending $X million I can point to a group supporting of Republicans spending $X + Y million, like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. For every NEA and AFT you have spending $N million I can point to a American Crossroads spending $N+O million. Republican-backed groups are spending shitloads more money. It isn't debatable.
 
Wall St gave more money to Obama and Hillary than it did McCain in 2008. Now with the current state of the economy and the unhapiness of many in the business community with Obama and the Democratic Congress it's not surprising that Republicans might be receiving more money this election cycle.
 
Wall St gave more money to Obama and Hillary than it did McCain in 2008. Now with the current state of the economy and the unhapiness of many in the business community with Obama and the Democratic Congress it's not surprising that Republicans might be receiving more money this election cycle.


But the caps and prohibitions in prior election cycles are removed such that not only is there a cyclical increase based on likely election outcomes, but allowing corporations to make unlimited expenditures results in a dramatic increase in spending in favor of Republicans.
 
You're being quite the dumbass. Overall spending by outside groups is up across the board, but the vast majority of that spending is in support of Republicans. That's the truth of the matter.

For every moveon.org you can cite to as spending $X million I can point to a group supporting of Republicans spending $X + Y million, like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. For every NEA and AFT you have spending $N million I can point to a American Crossroads spending $N+O million. Republican-backed groups are spending shitloads more money. It isn't debatable.

Again... that is bullshit... you SAY it is, but you don't show any data to support it. The WP SAYS it.... but provides NO LINK to DATA to support it.

It is debatable you twit. Unless you have the FEC report that shows the VAST MAJORITY of private groups money is going to the Reps. Put up or shut up. Show the data.
 
But the caps and prohibitions in prior election cycles are removed such that not only is there a cyclical increase based on likely election outcomes, but allowing corporations to make unlimited expenditures results in a dramatic increase in spending in favor of Republicans.

again... SHOW us the DATA to justify your comments
 
Again... that is bullshit... you SAY it is, but you don't show any data to support it. The WP SAYS it.... but provides NO LINK to DATA to support it.

It is debatable you twit. Unless you have the FEC report that shows the VAST MAJORITY of private groups money is going to the Reps. Put up or shut up. Show the data.

It isn't debatable just because you say so and the FEC reports you are demanding haven't been submitted. I'll give you the numbers once the FEC quarterly reports are submitted and analyzed. Just give me a reminder after 10/15. And then we can revisit after the post-election reports are submitted.

For now, et's play tit for tat. U.S. Chamber of Commerce is plans to spend $75 million. Once you get some Democratic groups totaling that amount I'll move on.
 
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