California stops teaching math in favor of politics.

T. A. Gardner

T. A. Gardner

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Yep, California officially adopted a radical Leftist approach to math where "diversity," "racial justice," "inequity," and "cultural awareness," replace actually being able to do math and get correct answers...

California Adopts Controversial New Math Framework. Here’s What’s In It
https://www.edweek.org/teaching-lea...-new-math-framework-heres-whats-in-it/2023/07

So, California children going to public schools get fucked out of being functioning adults in a modern society for being good little proletariat serfs in a dictatorship. How fortunate for them.
 
Increasingly those who run our schools dont even pretend to be in the pursuit of education, they are in the religion business.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Yep, California officially adopted a radical Leftist approach to math where "diversity," "racial justice," "inequity," and "cultural awareness," replace actually being able to do math and get correct answers...

California Adopts Controversial New Math Framework. Here’s What’s In It
https://www.edweek.org/teaching-lea...-new-math-framework-heres-whats-in-it/2023/07

So, California children going to public schools get fucked out of being functioning adults in a modern society for being good little proletariat serfs in a dictatorship. How fortunate for them.
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Not sure how you arrived at your conclusion based on this article since it seemed pretty light on specific details about how individual math topics would be taught. Presumably addition and subtraction are still taught the exact same way as when you and I were kids but the larger framework is in place to make sure the lessons have bearing on a real lived experience of the students.

Not every kid is Gauss sitting in the classroom.
 
Cardinal Carminative said:
Not sure how you arrived at your conclusion based on this article since it seemed pretty light on specific details about how individual math topics would be taught. Presumably addition and subtraction are still taught the exact same way as when you and I were kids but the larger framework is in place to make sure the lessons have bearing on a real lived experience of the students.

Not every kid is Gauss sitting in the classroom.
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What California, in effect, has done is apply the tenants of Critical Pedagogy to math. That is, they have politicized math as a subject. That means that getting a politically correct answer is more important than getting a mathematically correct answer. Students will be asked more about how they feel about the lesson than about doing the math itself. Florida about two years ago, or so, banned from use a bunch of textbooks set up to do exactly what California is now doing.

Have you ever gone into say a fast food joint and paid with cash and the worker at the register can't make change? I have. The first couple times were stunners. I was shocked that the teenage girl (in each case for me) couldn't make change and I had to do it for her. One whined about why I couldn't just pay with a card like "normal people" (I wasn't so kind in response).

If a child graduates high school and can't balance a checkbook, can't make change, can't read a tape measure, or do other basic math skills what use are they to society?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
What California, in effect, has done is apply the tenants of Critical Pedagogy to math. That is, they have politicized math as a subject. That means that getting a politically correct answer is more important than getting a mathematically correct answer. Students will be asked more about how they feel about the lesson than about doing the math itself. Florida about two years ago, or so, banned from use a bunch of textbooks set up to do exactly what California is now doing.

Have you ever gone into say a fast food joint and paid with cash and the worker at the register can't make change? I have. The first couple times were stunners. I was shocked that the teenage girl (in each case for me) couldn't make change and I had to do it for her. One whined about why I couldn't just pay with a card like "normal people" (I wasn't so kind in response).

If a child graduates high school and can't balance a checkbook, can't make change, can't read a tape measure, or do other basic math skills what use are they to society?
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They are expanding what they started a good thirty years ago when they converted history into religious indoctrination.....they still called what they were doing teaching history and they did everything they could to make sure that parents did not understand that they were no longer teaching history......it was deception.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
What California, in effect, has done is apply the tenants of Critical Pedagogy to math. That is, they have politicized math as a subject. That means that getting a politically correct answer is more important than getting a mathematically correct answer. Students will be asked more about how they feel about the lesson than about doing the math itself. Florida about two years ago, or so, banned from use a bunch of textbooks set up to do exactly what California is now doing.

Have you ever gone into say a fast food joint and paid with cash and the worker at the register can't make change? I have. The first couple times were stunners. I was shocked that the teenage girl (in each case for me) couldn't make change and I had to do it for her. One whined about why I couldn't just pay with a card like "normal people" (I wasn't so kind in response).

If a child graduates high school and can't balance a checkbook, can't make change, can't read a tape measure, or do other basic math skills what use are they to society?
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You typed a lot but I still don't see any information on how the actual meat-and-potatoes mathematics would be taught. Just a lot more complaints about how people think about stuff. That isn't the same.

As for modern people making change, that is the exact same complaints you heard back in the 1970's. It's always the same complaints of older people about younger people.
 
Cardinal Carminative said:
You typed a lot but I still don't see any information on how the actual meat-and-potatoes mathematics would be taught. Just a lot more complaints about how people think about stuff. That isn't the same.

As for modern people making change, that is the exact same complaints you heard back in the 1970's. It's always the same complaints of older people about younger people.
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https://www.cde.ca.gov/be/st/ss/documents/ccssmathstandardaug2013.pdf

https://www.cde.ca.gov/ci/ma/cf/

There. The 162 pages of "Common Core" math standards using Critical Pedagogy revisions for you to peruse. I like chapter 9 of the revisions:

https://view.officeapps.live.com/op...ts/mathfwchapter9sbe.docx&wdOrigin=BROWSELINK
 
T. A. Gardner said:
https://www.cde.ca.gov/be/st/ss/documents/ccssmathstandardaug2013.pdf

https://www.cde.ca.gov/ci/ma/cf/

There. The 162 pages of "Common Core" math standards using Critical Pedagogy revisions for you to peruse. I like chapter 9 of the revisions:

https://view.officeapps.live.com/op...ts/mathfwchapter9sbe.docx&wdOrigin=BROWSELINK
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So you don't know anything about this which is why you can't summarize anything about it. Got it. Thanks for the references though.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I did summarize it, and then provided the primary source documents, including a specific chapter from those documents. You're an idiot.
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You don't seem to know what math is per se. I asked how the actual teaching of the mathematical concepts would change and all you could do is parrot the usual right wing talking points.

Maybe if you had more math background?
 
Cardinal Carminative said:
You don't seem to know what math is per se. I asked how the actual teaching of the mathematical concepts would change and all you could do is parrot the usual right wing talking points.

Maybe if you had more math background?
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Are you... Yea, you are that stupid. Did you bother to read the links I posted?

Mathematics Framework Chapter 9: Structuring School Experiences for Equity and Engagement
https://view.officeapps.live.com/op...ts/mathfwchapter9sbe.docx&wdOrigin=BROWSELINK

This isn't a chapter on how math will be taught, but rather one on strategies on how to make it more equitable to all students. Maybe if you had a scintilla of intellect you'd figure it out.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Increasingly those who run our schools dont even pretend to be in the pursuit of education, they are in the religion business.
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No one gave you a soap box to pontificate on math education.

Short of frantically googling, you wouldn't know how to take the derivative of a function if your life depended on it.
 
Cardinal Carminative said:
You don't seem to know what math is per se. I asked how the actual teaching of the mathematical concepts would change and all you could do is parrot the usual right wing talking points.

Maybe if you had more math background?
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Its vague and thats purposeful. Here is just someof the leftist mumbo jumbo from the article in the OP

"The 1,000-page framework aims to put meaning-making at the center of the math classroom, promoting a focus on problem-solving and applying math knowledge to real-world situations. It also encourages teachers to make math culturally relevant and accessible for all students, especially students of color who have been traditionally marginalized in the subject.

“The United States has not been teaching math effectively or equitably. We are one of the lower-achieving countries … and California is below the national average in its achievement in mathematics,” said Linda Darling-Hammond, the president of the California State Board of Education, during the board’s meeting on Wednesday. “This is an area of great need, and change is imperative. The same old, same old will not get us to a new place.”"

What does "...make math culturally relevant and accessible for all stuednts..." mean? Math has no culture. Math is inaccessible if you dont go to school.

What does it mean to teach math "effectively and equitably" which the idiot Hammond claims hasnt happened in America. Has California always been below the national average in mathematical achievement? Its funny how teachers are never to blame for subpar performances of their students. If a plumber doesnt fix the leak in my faucet it MUST be because he didnt learn plumbing "effectively and equitably".
 
T. A. Gardner said:
So, do you think that this Leftist ideal that was implemented as state teaching policy helps students learn math so they can function as adults? Do you?

If the Left is bad and evil, it should be pointed out, or do you disagree with that too?
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Heh. He DID point it out! Not that he intended to...
 
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