Californi Secession

[cawacko]

We have trillions in unfunded liabilities that we would now have no chance of the federal gov't picking up. Are we going to get a military to protect ourselves? The remainder of the U.S. would lose California's 55 electoral votes, not helpful for the Democrats.




Shervin Pishevar wants to help California secede from the US


Venture capitalist and Hyperloop One co-founder Shervin Pishevar said he wants to help California to secede from the United States and a Donald Trump presidency.
Pishevar tweeted Tuesday night as the election was unfolding that he will be "announcing and funding a legitimate campaign for California to become its own nation," if Trump won the race.

Hours later, Hillary Clinton conceded the election to Trump, and NBC News projected the Republican nominee to win the race.

Pishevar told CNBC he is serious about the proposal, and already has a name for the new sovereign body.
"It's the most patriotic thing I can do," he said. "The country is at serious crossroads. ... Calling it New California."

He went on to describe his plan for California to become the catalyst for a "national dialogue" as the country has reached a "tipping point."

"We can re-enter the union after California becomes a nation," he said. "As the sixth largest economy in the world, the economic engine of the nation and provider of a large percentage of the federal budget, California carries a lot of weight."

He said the country needs to "confront the systemic problems that this election has exposed."

Wednesday morning, Pishevar resigned from the J. William Fulbright Foreign Scholarship Board, telling President Obama he "cannot serve with a good conscious a President Trump in any capacity."


http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/shervin-pishevar-wants-to-help-california-secede-from-the-us.html

 

[Airstrip One]

If I were a billionaire, I might sponsor all manner of hellish California referenda.

 

[Face Your]

We have trillions in unfunded liabilities that we would now have no chance of the federal gov't picking up. Are we going to get a military to protect ourselves? The remainder of the U.S. would lose California's 55 electoral votes, not helpful for the Democrats.




Shervin Pishevar wants to help California secede from the US


Venture capitalist and Hyperloop One co-founder Shervin Pishevar said he wants to help California to secede from the United States and a Donald Trump presidency.
Pishevar tweeted Tuesday night as the election was unfolding that he will be "announcing and funding a legitimate campaign for California to become its own nation," if Trump won the race.

Hours later, Hillary Clinton conceded the election to Trump, and NBC News projected the Republican nominee to win the race.

Pishevar told CNBC he is serious about the proposal, and already has a name for the new sovereign body.
"It's the most patriotic thing I can do," he said. "The country is at serious crossroads. ... Calling it New California."

He went on to describe his plan for California to become the catalyst for a "national dialogue" as the country has reached a "tipping point."

"We can re-enter the union after California becomes a nation," he said. "As the sixth largest economy in the world, the economic engine of the nation and provider of a large percentage of the federal budget, California carries a lot of weight."

He said the country needs to "confront the systemic problems that this election has exposed."

Wednesday morning, Pishevar resigned from the J. William Fulbright Foreign Scholarship Board, telling President Obama he "cannot serve with a good conscious a President Trump in any capacity."


http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/shervin-pishevar-wants-to-help-california-secede-from-the-us.html

Secession is not a right, it will mean war so all these people need to stfu.

 

[Airstrip One]

I doubt secession would lead to war. We wouldn't have had one last time if the south hadn't been retarded.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Since the butthurt protestors are saying that Trump isn't there President, then there's no reason to listen to their complaints.

Be careful what you wish for; because you might just receive it.

 

[Face Your]

I doubt secession would lead to war. We wouldn't have had one last time if the south hadn't been retarded.

There is no right to secede.

 

[cawacko]

There is no right to secede.

Texans talk about it. Philly Rabbit said states should have the right to

 

[Irish]

Since the butthurt protestors are saying that Trump isn't there President, then there's no reason to listen to their complaints.

Be careful what you wish for; because you might just receive it.

Why don't they leave the country? Are all those libtard celebs going to leave the country?

 

[J Craft]

Texans actually made a constitutional argumenr, they didn't riot and destroy property like asshole haters.

 

[Airstrip One]

There is no right to secede.

The Constitution is silent on the matter. Most arguments against it have to do with how it affects the constitutional rights of the citizens who live in seceding places. That said, Jefferson and Madison actually made arguments for nullification, which is clearly unconstitutional and illegal. That helped pave the way for the secessionist movement.

 

[Face Your]

The Constitution is silent on the matter.

The SCOTUS is clear on the matter, unilateral succession is illegal:

The Union of the States never was a purely artificial and arbitrary relation. It began among the Colonies, and grew out of common origin, mutual sympathies, kindred principles, similar interests, and geographical relations. It was confirmed and strengthened by the necessities of war, and received definite form and character and sanction from the Articles of Confederation. By these, the Union was solemnly declared to 'be perpetual.' And when these Articles were found to be inadequate to the exigencies of the country, the Constitution was ordained 'to form a more perfect Union.' It is difficult to convey the idea of indissoluble unity more clearly than by these words. What can be indissoluble if a perpetual Union, made more perfect, is not?[7]



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White

 

[Warrior135]

Normally we'd fight a Civil War - But - We're Cool - You guys can Succeed -

Build a Wall of yOur Own .. On the Eastern and Northern Sides - PLEASE - No need to Worry about the Southern Border ..

 

[Mott the Hoople]

We have trillions in unfunded liabilities that we would now have no chance of the federal gov't picking up. Are we going to get a military to protect ourselves? The remainder of the U.S. would lose California's 55 electoral votes, not helpful for the Democrats.




Shervin Pishevar wants to help California secede from the US


Venture capitalist and Hyperloop One co-founder Shervin Pishevar said he wants to help California to secede from the United States and a Donald Trump presidency.
Pishevar tweeted Tuesday night as the election was unfolding that he will be "announcing and funding a legitimate campaign for California to become its own nation," if Trump won the race.

Hours later, Hillary Clinton conceded the election to Trump, and NBC News projected the Republican nominee to win the race.

Pishevar told CNBC he is serious about the proposal, and already has a name for the new sovereign body.
"It's the most patriotic thing I can do," he said. "The country is at serious crossroads. ... Calling it New California."

He went on to describe his plan for California to become the catalyst for a "national dialogue" as the country has reached a "tipping point."

"We can re-enter the union after California becomes a nation," he said. "As the sixth largest economy in the world, the economic engine of the nation and provider of a large percentage of the federal budget, California carries a lot of weight."

He said the country needs to "confront the systemic problems that this election has exposed."

Wednesday morning, Pishevar resigned from the J. William Fulbright Foreign Scholarship Board, telling President Obama he "cannot serve with a good conscious a President Trump in any capacity."


http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/shervin-pishevar-wants-to-help-california-secede-from-the-us.html

Will you take Texas with you?

 

[TheDonald]

What are you babbling about?

 

[Truth Detector]

Texans talk about it. Philly Rabbit said states should have the right to

It doesn't matter who makes such stupid claims; we fought a massive civil war to prevent it from happening and the precedent has been set. Talk of secession are for lunatics and whackos; which is just about the entire state of California.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

We have trillions in unfunded liabilities that we would now have no chance of the federal gov't picking up.

let's be honest......we aren't picking up your liabilities anyway.......don't let that stop you from seceding..

 

[PostmodernProphet]

the only negative would be that the wall would have to be a lot longer....

 

[Timshel]

We have trillions in unfunded liabilities that we would now have no chance of the federal gov't picking up. Are we going to get a military to protect ourselves? The remainder of the U.S. would lose California's 55 electoral votes, not helpful for the Democrats.




Shervin Pishevar wants to help California secede from the US


Venture capitalist and Hyperloop One co-founder Shervin Pishevar said he wants to help California to secede from the United States and a Donald Trump presidency.
Pishevar tweeted Tuesday night as the election was unfolding that he will be "announcing and funding a legitimate campaign for California to become its own nation," if Trump won the race.

Hours later, Hillary Clinton conceded the election to Trump, and NBC News projected the Republican nominee to win the race.

Pishevar told CNBC he is serious about the proposal, and already has a name for the new sovereign body.
"It's the most patriotic thing I can do," he said. "The country is at serious crossroads. ... Calling it New California."

He went on to describe his plan for California to become the catalyst for a "national dialogue" as the country has reached a "tipping point."

"We can re-enter the union after California becomes a nation," he said. "As the sixth largest economy in the world, the economic engine of the nation and provider of a large percentage of the federal budget, California carries a lot of weight."

He said the country needs to "confront the systemic problems that this election has exposed."

Wednesday morning, Pishevar resigned from the J. William Fulbright Foreign Scholarship Board, telling President Obama he "cannot serve with a good conscious a President Trump in any capacity."


http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/shervin-pishevar-wants-to-help-california-secede-from-the-us.html

It's fucking stupid and irrational. It would be much easier and productive to reduce the power of the Presidency.

 

[Irish]

Normally we'd fight a Civil War - But - We're Cool - You guys can Succeed -

Build a Wall of yOur Own .. On the Eastern and Northern Sides - PLEASE - No need to Worry about the Southern Border ..

Just promise to take all the illegal and muslim immigrants. Oh and people dependent on welfare. Call us in 4 years.

 

[Airstrip One]

The SCOTUS is clear on the matter, unilateral succession is illegal:

The Union of the States never was a purely artificial and arbitrary relation. It began among the Colonies, and grew out of common origin, mutual sympathies, kindred principles, similar interests, and geographical relations. It was confirmed and strengthened by the necessities of war, and received definite form and character and sanction from the Articles of Confederation. By these, the Union was solemnly declared to 'be perpetual.' And when these Articles were found to be inadequate to the exigencies of the country, the Constitution was ordained 'to form a more perfect Union.' It is difficult to convey the idea of indissoluble unity more clearly than by these words. What can be indissoluble if a perpetual Union, made more perfect, is not?[7]



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White

The SCOTUS really isn't saying anything of substance in that opinion. Since it's a weak precedent, another Court could easily overturn. Since it's become custom for us all to be opposed to secession, however, the ruling will likely stand.