Black California voters feeling their votes don’t have power, and Democrats are large

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For context the author, Justin Phillips, is a black progressive. He regularly writes that if you complain about crime in SF and don't support defunding the police then you are a conservative. If you don't support reparations in SF then you are a conservative (a City with less than 7% registered Republicans). So to hear him saying anything negative about Democrats is pretty shocking.

I guess the argument in response to this is we have a two party system and the other party is worse, so suck it up and vote for us.





Black California voters feeling their votes don’t have power, and Democrats are largely to blame

A new poll shows a growing number of Black voters in California feel their votes don’t matter. How should the state’s Democratic supermajority respond?


Black voters in California are increasingly disenchanted with the political process, and a significant portion are cool on the Democratic Party, according to a new poll that should greatly worry the party.

In surveying 1,200 Black adults in North Carolina, Georgia and California, the Black to the Future Action Fund, an organization that works to increase Black political power nationally, found that almost 30% of Black voters in California either didn’t vote Democrat or split their votes across political parties. The figure was roughly 10 percentage points higher than in both Georgia and North Carolina.

California experienced the biggest decline among the states in Black voters’ belief that their votes have power, from 51% in August to 42% in December, according to the poll, which was conducted in December and released this month.

The results make sense. Black Californians have dealt with a decades-long wealth gap, make up about 40% of the state’s homeless population, experienced the most hate crimes of any racial group in 2021, and had the highest unemployment rate of any racial group in 2022, all while Democrats have held a near-unbroken majority in the state Legislature over the past five decades.

If Democrats want to ensure Black voters’ continued loyalty, the party has to stop making the group wait decades for the passage of critical Black-focused legislation, like the repeal of the racist, 73-year-old housing measure Article 34 in California’s Constitution. The measure, which lawmakers will try again to remove in 2024, makes it tougher to create affordable housing and reflects the state’s 1950s-era anxieties about Black people living in or near white neighborhoods.

The poll also reveals that Black California voters are worried about crime, though this does not necessarily mean the group wants an increase in the number of police. Democrats can show they understand these fears by making long-term investments in community policing and social services that reduce crime, and not padding the bloated budgets of police departments that continue to prove they, alone, can’t.

An argument might be made that Democrats can “buy” the votes of Black people by making multimillion dollar reparations a reality. Even if the Democrats succeed, it won’t prove they’re allies to the Black community; it will just serve as America rightfully fulfilling a promise it made to Black people 158 years ago.

Ludovic Blain, executive director of the California Donor Table, a statewide community of donors that invest in communities of color, told me that Democratic politicians need to disentangle themselves from corporate interests because “in California corporate interests are exactly contrary to Black community interests.”

“That means when dealing with housing, not listening to Realtors and building real housing. Not listening to the oil companies and actually protecting the environment. Not listening to the gig companies and actually protecting workers. Not listening to the police unions and actually investing in public safety,” Blain said.

It doesn’t help that Democratic candidates are also failing to even provide Black voters with the information they need.

Across the three states that the Black to the Future Fund polled, 42% of Black people who did not vote in the 2022 midterm elections felt poorly informed about the candidates. And 79% said no liberal or Democratic organization came to their neighborhood to gin up support for a candidate.

“When I was living in Oakland, there would be entire election cycles where nobody came to knock on my door, and I’m someone who is very politically engaged,” said civil rights activist Alicia Garza, the founder and leader of the Black to the Future Action Fund.

When it comes to the complicated challenge of making Black voters in California feel as though their votes can influence politics, Blain said more cities need novel approaches like what Oakland is doing.

Last year, Oakland passed a ballot measure to create “Democracy Dollars,” which are $25 vouchers that eligible Oakland voters will receive in 2024 to be used as contributions to the campaigns of their preferred candidates in races for city offices.

For Black voters who have witnessed how a small number of wealthy donors can influence political campaigns and their results, the program is promising.

Even a recent University of Washington study shows the concept increases voter participation, and advocates say this increase is largely in communities of color. So far, Oakland is the only California city to put the program in place.

Undoubtedly, Black voters in 2024 will once more be asked by Democrats to go to the polls to save America. I just hope that by then, the party will have given us a reason to once again do it.


https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea...lack-voters-democrats-california-17852657.php
 
Not easy understanding the point of your post

Appears to be an angry black guy pissed off cause he don’t see things going his way, which isn’t uncommon for some individuals of any political persuasion, and thinks Democrats should do more. If it is his individual bitches, some could be legitimate, others not, no one is approving to pay Black Americans a million dollars apiece in reparations

San Francisco has it’s individual problems, as I’ve said before, it’s delusional, wants to be known for its individual “freedom” while at the same time not understanding some of the consequences
 
Not easy understanding the point of your post

Appears to be an angry black guy pissed off cause he don’t see things going his way, which isn’t uncommon for some individuals of any political persuasion, and thinks Democrats should do more. If it is his individual bitches, some could be legitimate, others not, no one is approving to pay Black Americans a million dollars apiece in reparations

San Francisco has it’s individual problems, as I’ve said before, it’s delusional, wants to be known for its individual “freedom” while at the same time not understanding some of the consequences

The San Francisco Chronicle isn't the New York Times in terms of number of readers but nonetheless it still has a fair number of subscribers and this guy is a regular columnist. This is a reality in a two party system, what do you do when you like one party better than the other but you feel the party you like still doesn't represent your interests well? And in this particular case the party you vote for holds all the power so just saying 'vote the other party out' doesn't really hold much weight.

The author isn't talking about an angry individual, he referenced polling showing disillusion among a percentage of black voters and what he feels Democrats need to do to satisfy them. Politics is all about trade offs and each party has millions of voters and multiple interests they have to address. The author references specific policy action, which can be debated.

Since everyone loves to talk about the horse race we all know black voters are the most solid Democratic voters. But while they will likely not vote Republican, they could also stay home if not happy. Thus the author referencing the need for action.
 
For context the author, Justin Phillips, is a black progressive. He regularly writes that if you complain about crime in SF and don't support defunding the police then you are a conservative. If you don't support reparations in SF then you are a conservative (a City with less than 7% registered Republicans). So to hear him saying anything negative about Democrats is pretty shocking.

I guess the argument in response to this is we have a two party system and the other party is worse, so suck it up and vote for us.





Black California voters feeling their votes don’t have power, and Democrats are largely to blame

A new poll shows a growing number of Black voters in California feel their votes don’t matter. How should the state’s Democratic supermajority respond?


Black voters in California are increasingly disenchanted with the political process, and a significant portion are cool on the Democratic Party, according to a new poll that should greatly worry the party.

In surveying 1,200 Black adults in North Carolina, Georgia and California, the Black to the Future Action Fund, an organization that works to increase Black political power nationally, found that almost 30% of Black voters in California either didn’t vote Democrat or split their votes across political parties. The figure was roughly 10 percentage points higher than in both Georgia and North Carolina.

California experienced the biggest decline among the states in Black voters’ belief that their votes have power, from 51% in August to 42% in December, according to the poll, which was conducted in December and released this month.

The results make sense. Black Californians have dealt with a decades-long wealth gap, make up about 40% of the state’s homeless population, experienced the most hate crimes of any racial group in 2021, and had the highest unemployment rate of any racial group in 2022, all while Democrats have held a near-unbroken majority in the state Legislature over the past five decades.

If Democrats want to ensure Black voters’ continued loyalty, the party has to stop making the group wait decades for the passage of critical Black-focused legislation, like the repeal of the racist, 73-year-old housing measure Article 34 in California’s Constitution. The measure, which lawmakers will try again to remove in 2024, makes it tougher to create affordable housing and reflects the state’s 1950s-era anxieties about Black people living in or near white neighborhoods.

The poll also reveals that Black California voters are worried about crime, though this does not necessarily mean the group wants an increase in the number of police. Democrats can show they understand these fears by making long-term investments in community policing and social services that reduce crime, and not padding the bloated budgets of police departments that continue to prove they, alone, can’t.

An argument might be made that Democrats can “buy” the votes of Black people by making multimillion dollar reparations a reality. Even if the Democrats succeed, it won’t prove they’re allies to the Black community; it will just serve as America rightfully fulfilling a promise it made to Black people 158 years ago.

Ludovic Blain, executive director of the California Donor Table, a statewide community of donors that invest in communities of color, told me that Democratic politicians need to disentangle themselves from corporate interests because “in California corporate interests are exactly contrary to Black community interests.”

“That means when dealing with housing, not listening to Realtors and building real housing. Not listening to the oil companies and actually protecting the environment. Not listening to the gig companies and actually protecting workers. Not listening to the police unions and actually investing in public safety,” Blain said.

It doesn’t help that Democratic candidates are also failing to even provide Black voters with the information they need.

Across the three states that the Black to the Future Fund polled, 42% of Black people who did not vote in the 2022 midterm elections felt poorly informed about the candidates. And 79% said no liberal or Democratic organization came to their neighborhood to gin up support for a candidate.

“When I was living in Oakland, there would be entire election cycles where nobody came to knock on my door, and I’m someone who is very politically engaged,” said civil rights activist Alicia Garza, the founder and leader of the Black to the Future Action Fund.

When it comes to the complicated challenge of making Black voters in California feel as though their votes can influence politics, Blain said more cities need novel approaches like what Oakland is doing.

Last year, Oakland passed a ballot measure to create “Democracy Dollars,” which are $25 vouchers that eligible Oakland voters will receive in 2024 to be used as contributions to the campaigns of their preferred candidates in races for city offices.

For Black voters who have witnessed how a small number of wealthy donors can influence political campaigns and their results, the program is promising.

Even a recent University of Washington study shows the concept increases voter participation, and advocates say this increase is largely in communities of color. So far, Oakland is the only California city to put the program in place.

Undoubtedly, Black voters in 2024 will once more be asked by Democrats to go to the polls to save America. I just hope that by then, the party will have given us a reason to once again do it.


https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea...lack-voters-democrats-california-17852657.php

If black citizens regard themselves as a monolith with one point of view,
they are not going to be a numeric majority by themselves,
and thus, their votes may not count for much.

They have that vote and obviously should. They can't make it count for more than one vote, however.
Also, I'm not convinced that black voters are a monolith anyway.

I'm considered a racist for not politically recognizing race.
Believing in equal status under the law is simply not enough for some militant black activists.
I can't do anything about that, so I choose not to care.
 
If black citizens regard themselves as a monolith with one point of view,
they are not going to be a numeric majority by themselves,
and thus, their votes may not count for much.

They have that vote and obviously should. They can't make it count for more than one vote, however.
Also, I'm not convinced that black voters are a monolith anyway.

I'm considered a racist for not politically recognizing race.
Believing in equal status under the law is simply not enough for some militant black activists.
I can't do anything about that, so I choose not to care.

From strictly an identity politics perspective you bring up a legitimate point. The demographic reality is black people make up 5-6% of California. The Asian population is 3X the black population in the state. Yet we don't hear much about needing an Asian agenda. That is no way intended as disrespectful to blacks folks or to downplay their needs.

Generally I think most of want similar things; want to feel safe, have good schools, good health, good jobs etc. We may have different ways we think we can achieve those things but the outcomes we desire are generally pretty similar. The author presents the 'black agenda' as differing from the agendas of others. In certain ways that can be possible, but as such a small part of the population is not likely if it conflicts with what the majority wants.

From a political and policy perspective then what do Democrats do? You've already got their votes but do you change your policies to meet their desired wishes? Or just hope enough won't stay home on election day and continue status quo?
 
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